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Posted to issues@commons.apache.org by sebb <se...@gmail.com> on 2009/12/09 16:18:35 UTC
Re: [lang] Lang package name change. Was: [(LANG-561) unescapeHtml
has been dropped without going through deprecation]
Fine by me too.
If the package name change is agreed then I'm happy to close LANG-561.
Also, we probably ought to make 2.x the 'default' Gump project for
LANG, so other projects have to deliberately choose lang-3.
On 09/12/2009, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
> After thoughtful deliberation, I also favor lang3 package change. My
> reasoning is so that migration is not an all-or-nothing for users. They can
> use both lang < 3 and lang 3 simultaneously and transition overtime.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 12/9/2009 2:52 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> > Sorry - forgot the marker.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Henri Yandell<fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Perhaps now is the right time to do the package change?
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a better idea than:
> > >
> > > org.apache.commons.lang -> org.apache.commons.lang3?
> > >
> > > That kind of sets us up for lang 4.0 needing a package change as well,
> > > but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
> > >
> > > Hen
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Niall Pemberton (JIRA)<ji...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > [
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-561?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12787657#action_12787657
> ]
> > > >
> > > > Niall Pemberton commented on LANG-561:
> > > > --------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Presumably there is going to be a package name change before Lang 3.0
> is released? If so everything breaks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: [lang] Lang package name change. Was: [(LANG-561) unescapeHtml has been dropped without going through deprecation]
Posted by Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de>.
Guys,
following the list over Gmane it is not even possible to post to the issues
list ...
- Jörg
sebb wrote at Mittwoch, 9. Dezember 2009 16:18:
> Fine by me too.
>
> If the package name change is agreed then I'm happy to close LANG-561.
>
> Also, we probably ought to make 2.x the 'default' Gump project for
> LANG, so other projects have to deliberately choose lang-3.
>
> On 09/12/2009, Paul Benedict
> <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
>> After thoughtful deliberation, I also favor lang3 package change. My
>> reasoning is so that migration is not an all-or-nothing for users. They
>> can use both lang < 3 and lang 3 simultaneously and transition overtime.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On 12/9/2009 2:52 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry - forgot the marker.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Henri
>> > Yandell<fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Perhaps now is the right time to do the package change?
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone have a better idea than:
>> > >
>> > > org.apache.commons.lang -> org.apache.commons.lang3?
>> > >
>> > > That kind of sets us up for lang 4.0 needing a package change as
>> > > well, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
>> > >
>> > > Hen
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Niall Pemberton
>> > > (JIRA)<ji...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > [
>>
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LANG-561?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12787657#action_12787657
>> ]
>> > > >
>> > > > Niall Pemberton commented on LANG-561:
>> > > > --------------------------------------
>> > > >
>> > > > Presumably there is going to be a package name change before Lang
>> > > > 3.0
>> is released? If so everything breaks.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: [lang] Lang package name change. Was: [(LANG-561) unescapeHtml
has been dropped without going through deprecation]
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Niall Pemberton
<ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Paul Benedict wrote at Mittwoch, 9. Dezember 2009 20:16:
>>>
>>>> I hope to see org.apache.commons:commons-lang:3.0
>>>
>>> No, not if it is no longer backwards compatible to 2.0 APIs.
>>
>> 2.0 is: commons-lang:commons-lang:3.0.
>>
>> So it'll be a change of groupId and you could put both in the same pom
>> without issues (afaik).
>
> Maven and how its organised is irrelevant - its what you need in your
> classpath that matters and if you have different dependencies
> requiring different versions that are incompatible then you're in
> trouble if they share the same package names.
Doh, forget this, had a brain fart.
I agree :)
Niall
> Niall
>
>> Hen
>
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Re: [lang] Lang package name change. Was: [(LANG-561) unescapeHtml
has been dropped without going through deprecation]
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> Paul Benedict wrote at Mittwoch, 9. Dezember 2009 20:16:
>>
>>> I hope to see org.apache.commons:commons-lang:3.0
>>
>> No, not if it is no longer backwards compatible to 2.0 APIs.
>
> 2.0 is: commons-lang:commons-lang:3.0.
>
> So it'll be a change of groupId and you could put both in the same pom
> without issues (afaik).
Maven and how its organised is irrelevant - its what you need in your
classpath that matters and if you have different dependencies
requiring different versions that are incompatible then you're in
trouble if they share the same package names.
Niall
> Hen
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Re: [lang] Lang package name change. Was: [(LANG-561) unescapeHtml
has been dropped without going through deprecation]
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Paul Benedict wrote at Mittwoch, 9. Dezember 2009 20:16:
>
>> I hope to see org.apache.commons:commons-lang:3.0
>
> No, not if it is no longer backwards compatible to 2.0 APIs.
2.0 is: commons-lang:commons-lang:3.0.
So it'll be a change of groupId and you could put both in the same pom
without issues (afaik).
Hen
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Re: [lang] Lang package name change. Was: [(LANG-561) unescapeHtml has been dropped without going through deprecation]
Posted by Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de>.
Paul Benedict wrote at Mittwoch, 9. Dezember 2009 20:16:
> I hope to see org.apache.commons:commons-lang:3.0
No, not if it is no longer backwards compatible to 2.0 APIs.
- Jörg
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Re: [lang] Lang package name change. Was: [(LANG-561) unescapeHtml
has been dropped without going through deprecation]
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
I hope to see org.apache.commons:commons-lang:3.0
Paul
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 2009-12-09, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Also, we probably ought to make 2.x the 'default' Gump project for
>> LANG, so other projects have to deliberately choose lang-3.
>
> I'd assume the Maven groupId would change as well, so any projects
> building with mvn will only ever see one of either. For Ant and Maven
> 1.x projects, it will be pretty easy to make them use Lang 2.x in Gump
> and we'll see pretty fast which ones will need to migrate.
>
> Stefan
>
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Re: [lang] Lang package name change. Was: [(LANG-561) unescapeHtml has been dropped without going through deprecation]
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-12-09, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also, we probably ought to make 2.x the 'default' Gump project for
> LANG, so other projects have to deliberately choose lang-3.
I'd assume the Maven groupId would change as well, so any projects
building with mvn will only ever see one of either. For Ant and Maven
1.x projects, it will be pretty easy to make them use Lang 2.x in Gump
and we'll see pretty fast which ones will need to migrate.
Stefan
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