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Posted to jetspeed-user@portals.apache.org by Leszek Szlachetka <ls...@derbytax.com> on 2003/10/22 20:48:26 UTC
DMS
Hello,
I'm looking to build a document management system (DMS) using Jetspeed. But I wonder if there are already any prebuild portlets that manage documents.
In that regard is there any tool that would display files directly from the harddrive. Also, is it possible to launch MS Word/Excel documents from Jetspeed (clicking on the link ) and then edit them and save them back directly to Jetspeed?
Any help, links are greatly appreciated,
Leszek
Re: DMS
Posted by John Wubbel <jo...@johnwubbel.com>.
Leszek,
Well, I am not so sure how you want to look at it, that is "a document
management system using Jetspeed" as opposed to one that runs within or
under the existing framework that is Jetspeed.
I have been successful in using Zope. Not to confuse Zope as a Content
Management System (CMS) with a DMS. I would urge you to investigate the
capabilities of Zope to handle more than the typical web page kind of
documents. It can also manage doc/pdf/xls besides html based documents.
Zope seems to be very mature and it took me about 3 weeks of study and
playing around with it before I realized just how much of an added value
it was once deployed.
Zope however is independent of the Jetspeed as it has its own server
known as ZServer and uses an OO Database. I was able to securely serve
documents from my portlets and was also able to run the Zope Management
Interface within another portlet for authorized users to manage content.
Most users though are viewers of the documents in our system.
I used an IFrame Portlet as the basis of serving up content and this
only required a short chunk of code server side to facilitate this. Now
in our case, the portal serves a host of different companies and the
documents that are pushed are usually unique, so within the Zope we
could also partition it to host content for each of the client companies
or even inherit syndicated content from our digital library. The only
trouble, it seems that once you get a good CMS integrated, you next need
a robust publishing capability. At this time I am investigating and
testing a Zope Product called Silva.
So in answer to your question, this is not a prebuild portlet per se
however even if you could find the ideal DMS you will not find one size
fits all. At least with the Zope you have a great deal of flexibility
that will tailor to your requirements without a great deal of investment
in custom development work. Jetspeed has the portlet framework to plug
in solutions such as this with minimal effort.
Regards,
John Wubbel
Securitydirector, LLC
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:48, Leszek Szlachetka wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking to build a document management system (DMS) using Jetspeed. But I wonder if there are already any prebuild portlets that manage documents.
>
> In that regard is there any tool that would display files directly from the harddrive. Also, is it possible to launch MS Word/Excel documents from Jetspeed (clicking on the link ) and then edit them and save them back directly to Jetspeed?
>
>
> Any help, links are greatly appreciated,
> Leszek
>
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Re: DMS
Posted by Christophe Lombart <ch...@sword-technologies.com>.
Maybe it is not the good place to speak on Open Office here, you can
send me more info directly to my email adress.
Our documents are not complex. What are calling complex documents ?
I know someone who is not able to open a word 97 document in Office 2003
and can open it in Open Office.
Regards,
Christophe
Leszek Szlachetka wrote:
>Hi Christophe,
>
>
>Thank you for your reply.
>I'm glad to hear that your are working on it. I just wonder if using Open
>Office is a good solution. I know that Open Office is not able to convert
>more complex MS Office documents. Recently, I just read that even Star
>Office can't handle complex documents. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>Thanks,
>Leszek
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Christophe Lombart" <ch...@sword-technologies.com>
>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:30 PM
>Subject: Re: DMS
>
>
>
>
>>This is exactly what I'm doing for one for my customer.
>>
>>The end-users have a secure access to a documents hierarchy (folders)
>>via a portlet. A word document can be edited and save back to the server
>>after some validation. Documents are stored into a repository (Slide)
>>which can be used for CMS or DMS solution.
>>
>>In order to validate word documents, we are using open office which is
>>running in server mode. Open office is nice because it support the XML
>>file format and can convert one document in many content type (RTF, PDF,
>>HTML, Word, Excel, ....). Convertions via open office are more simple
>>than using a series of XSL templates. It is just one method to call.
>>
>>At the end, there is an official publication wich group together all
>>documents edited by the 400 users. This is the most complex part.
>>We are not using webdav because some users can edit their documents with
>>word 97 :-) . So we are developing a word macro which can send a http
>>put method to the server.
>>
>>We are still under test. It is not a simple solution (jetspeed + slide +
>>open office + EJB). So it takes time and I have not all my time to
>>donate the CMS repository layer. After some common work with David, I'm
>>trying to do it with some enhancement in the code.
>>
>>If you want to help at least for the repository, you are welcome :-)
>>Christophe
>>
>>Leszek Szlachetka wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>I'm looking to build a document management system (DMS) using Jetspeed.
>>>
>>>
>But I wonder if there are already any prebuild portlets that manage
>documents.
>
>
>>>In that regard is there any tool that would display files directly from
>>>
>>>
>the harddrive. Also, is it possible to launch MS Word/Excel documents from
>Jetspeed (clicking on the link ) and then edit them and save them back
>directly to Jetspeed?
>
>
>>>Any help, links are greatly appreciated,
>>>Leszek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: DMS
Posted by Leszek Szlachetka <ls...@derbytax.com>.
Hi Christophe,
Thank you for your reply.
I'm glad to hear that your are working on it. I just wonder if using Open
Office is a good solution. I know that Open Office is not able to convert
more complex MS Office documents. Recently, I just read that even Star
Office can't handle complex documents. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks,
Leszek
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christophe Lombart" <ch...@sword-technologies.com>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: DMS
> This is exactly what I'm doing for one for my customer.
>
> The end-users have a secure access to a documents hierarchy (folders)
> via a portlet. A word document can be edited and save back to the server
> after some validation. Documents are stored into a repository (Slide)
> which can be used for CMS or DMS solution.
>
> In order to validate word documents, we are using open office which is
> running in server mode. Open office is nice because it support the XML
> file format and can convert one document in many content type (RTF, PDF,
> HTML, Word, Excel, ....). Convertions via open office are more simple
> than using a series of XSL templates. It is just one method to call.
>
> At the end, there is an official publication wich group together all
> documents edited by the 400 users. This is the most complex part.
> We are not using webdav because some users can edit their documents with
> word 97 :-) . So we are developing a word macro which can send a http
> put method to the server.
>
> We are still under test. It is not a simple solution (jetspeed + slide +
> open office + EJB). So it takes time and I have not all my time to
> donate the CMS repository layer. After some common work with David, I'm
> trying to do it with some enhancement in the code.
>
> If you want to help at least for the repository, you are welcome :-)
> Christophe
>
> Leszek Szlachetka wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I'm looking to build a document management system (DMS) using Jetspeed.
But I wonder if there are already any prebuild portlets that manage
documents.
> >
> >In that regard is there any tool that would display files directly from
the harddrive. Also, is it possible to launch MS Word/Excel documents from
Jetspeed (clicking on the link ) and then edit them and save them back
directly to Jetspeed?
> >
> >
> >Any help, links are greatly appreciated,
> >Leszek
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: DMS
Posted by Christophe Lombart <ch...@sword-technologies.com>.
API
b.v.weert@valbosoft.com wrote:
>Hi,
>
>how do you interact with Open Office? Is that through it's API, or do you
>call the executable?
>
>Cheers,
>Bo
>
>
>
>
>
> Christophe Lombart
> <christophe.lombart@sword-technol Para: Jetspeed Users List
> ogies.com> <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
> cc:
> 22/10/2003 22:30 Fax para:
> Por favor, responda a "Jetspeed Asunto: Re: DMS
> Users List"
>
>
>
>
>This is exactly what I'm doing for one for my customer.
>
>The end-users have a secure access to a documents hierarchy (folders)
>via a portlet. A word document can be edited and save back to the server
>after some validation. Documents are stored into a repository (Slide)
>which can be used for CMS or DMS solution.
>
>In order to validate word documents, we are using open office which is
>running in server mode. Open office is nice because it support the XML
>file format and can convert one document in many content type (RTF, PDF,
>HTML, Word, Excel, ....). Convertions via open office are more simple
>than using a series of XSL templates. It is just one method to call.
>
>At the end, there is an official publication wich group together all
>documents edited by the 400 users. This is the most complex part.
>We are not using webdav because some users can edit their documents with
>word 97 :-) . So we are developing a word macro which can send a http
>put method to the server.
>
>We are still under test. It is not a simple solution (jetspeed + slide +
>open office + EJB). So it takes time and I have not all my time to
>donate the CMS repository layer. After some common work with David, I'm
>trying to do it with some enhancement in the code.
>
>If you want to help at least for the repository, you are welcome :-)
>Christophe
>
>Leszek Szlachetka wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I'm looking to build a document management system (DMS) using Jetspeed.
>>
>>
>But I wonder if there are already any prebuild portlets that manage
>documents.
>
>
>>In that regard is there any tool that would display files directly from
>>
>>
>the harddrive. Also, is it possible to launch MS Word/Excel documents from
>Jetspeed (clicking on the link ) and then edit them and save them back
>directly to Jetspeed?
>
>
>>Any help, links are greatly appreciated,
>>Leszek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: DMS
Posted by b....@valbosoft.com.
Hi,
how do you interact with Open Office? Is that through it's API, or do you
call the executable?
Cheers,
Bo
Christophe Lombart
<christophe.lombart@sword-technol Para: Jetspeed Users List
ogies.com> <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
cc:
22/10/2003 22:30 Fax para:
Por favor, responda a "Jetspeed Asunto: Re: DMS
Users List"
This is exactly what I'm doing for one for my customer.
The end-users have a secure access to a documents hierarchy (folders)
via a portlet. A word document can be edited and save back to the server
after some validation. Documents are stored into a repository (Slide)
which can be used for CMS or DMS solution.
In order to validate word documents, we are using open office which is
running in server mode. Open office is nice because it support the XML
file format and can convert one document in many content type (RTF, PDF,
HTML, Word, Excel, ....). Convertions via open office are more simple
than using a series of XSL templates. It is just one method to call.
At the end, there is an official publication wich group together all
documents edited by the 400 users. This is the most complex part.
We are not using webdav because some users can edit their documents with
word 97 :-) . So we are developing a word macro which can send a http
put method to the server.
We are still under test. It is not a simple solution (jetspeed + slide +
open office + EJB). So it takes time and I have not all my time to
donate the CMS repository layer. After some common work with David, I'm
trying to do it with some enhancement in the code.
If you want to help at least for the repository, you are welcome :-)
Christophe
Leszek Szlachetka wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm looking to build a document management system (DMS) using Jetspeed.
But I wonder if there are already any prebuild portlets that manage
documents.
>
>In that regard is there any tool that would display files directly from
the harddrive. Also, is it possible to launch MS Word/Excel documents from
Jetspeed (clicking on the link ) and then edit them and save them back
directly to Jetspeed?
>
>
>Any help, links are greatly appreciated,
>Leszek
>
>
>
>
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Re: DMS
Posted by Christophe Lombart <ch...@sword-technologies.com>.
This is exactly what I'm doing for one for my customer.
The end-users have a secure access to a documents hierarchy (folders)
via a portlet. A word document can be edited and save back to the server
after some validation. Documents are stored into a repository (Slide)
which can be used for CMS or DMS solution.
In order to validate word documents, we are using open office which is
running in server mode. Open office is nice because it support the XML
file format and can convert one document in many content type (RTF, PDF,
HTML, Word, Excel, ....). Convertions via open office are more simple
than using a series of XSL templates. It is just one method to call.
At the end, there is an official publication wich group together all
documents edited by the 400 users. This is the most complex part.
We are not using webdav because some users can edit their documents with
word 97 :-) . So we are developing a word macro which can send a http
put method to the server.
We are still under test. It is not a simple solution (jetspeed + slide +
open office + EJB). So it takes time and I have not all my time to
donate the CMS repository layer. After some common work with David, I'm
trying to do it with some enhancement in the code.
If you want to help at least for the repository, you are welcome :-)
Christophe
Leszek Szlachetka wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm looking to build a document management system (DMS) using Jetspeed. But I wonder if there are already any prebuild portlets that manage documents.
>
>In that regard is there any tool that would display files directly from the harddrive. Also, is it possible to launch MS Word/Excel documents from Jetspeed (clicking on the link ) and then edit them and save them back directly to Jetspeed?
>
>
>Any help, links are greatly appreciated,
>Leszek
>
>
>
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