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Posted to dev@stratos.apache.org by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> on 2014/01/03 18:16:03 UTC
development environment stratos runtime setup
Hi Devs,
I'm working on scripts to create a runtime environment for stratos
consisting of:
- 4.0.0 Message Broker
Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Message+Broker+Configuration>
- 4.0.0 Load Balancer
Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Load+Balancer+Configuration>
- 4.0.0 Cloud Controller
Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Cloud+Controller+Configuration>
- 4.0.0 Stratos Controller
Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Stratos+Controller+Configuration>
- 4.0.0 AutoScaler
Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+AutoScaler+Configuration>
- 4.0.0 Complex Event Processor
Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Complex+Event+Processor+Configuration>
At the moment, I'm unzipping and configuring each of the 6 products to run
as standalone component, but this seems quite inefficient for a developer
environment.
Is it possible to deploy all the products together on a single carbon
runtime?
Does it make sense to deploy all the products together?
For a single runtime with all the features, do I just need to copy the
feature zip files and adapt the instructions on the wiki:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration
?
Many thanks,
Chris
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Udara,
Will share the puppet scripts when/if I get that far.
Cheers,
Chris
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> The puppet script does not do those you mentioned. Puppet basically
> provides configurations for products and instances.
>
> You can try creating a single product with all the features of all
> products. I haven't done it. But I guess that is not straight forward.
> Please share with devs when you do it.
>
> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>
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Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com>.
Hi Chris,
The puppet script does not do those you mentioned. Puppet basically
provides configurations for products and instances.
You can try creating a single product with all the features of all
products. I haven't done it. But I guess that is not straight forward.
Please share with devs when you do it.
Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Lahiru
> We will have a puppet based setup script as well in the near future. Until
> that we can use the bash script we have. It is in a testable state and
> committed to source AFAIK.
>
>
Will the puppet script be modular so that there will be:
- a puppet module for installing carbon core
- a puppet module for each product, installing the stratos product as a
feature on top of carbon core
This approach will give administrators the flexibility to decide whether
they:
- install stratos as separate products each with their own carbon core/jvm
- install all stratos products in a single carbon core/jvm
Many thanks
Chris
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com>.
8gb is for Stratos products not including IAAS(openstsck). You will have to
use another machine for openstack. Yes it is painful :-(
Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 11:25 AM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Lakmal - should I create a JIRA issue for this so that that I can be
> assigned?
>
+1
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
>
>> IMO, we should optimize Stratos products to consume low memory footprint.
>> Now we are using vanilla carbon kernel and bundle features. We (in WSO2)
>> did this to some extend in past, run stratos2 in raspberry pi cluster.
>> [1][2][3]. We can do the same to Stratos 4.0 since Stratos committer/ppmc
>> already has couple of geeks involved to that project. :). Chris you lead
>> this, if you have some time :)
>>
>> [1]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/raspberry-pi-control-center.html
>> [2]
>> http://blog.afkham.org/2013/02/building-raspberry-pi-cluster-part-2.html
>> [3]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/why-we-built-raspberry-pi-cluster.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the late replies.
>>>
>>> Yes, the recommendation was due to number of JVMs. It is recommended to
>>> have 2 gb per carbon server, but it can be less if the load is less.
>>> You might get a small idea on standard recommendations if you want
>>> further information from my answer to [1].
>>>
>>> If you need to try out the products in single jvm, I'd recommend to
>>> assemble following 3 Stratos servers first and see.
>>>
>>> Stratos Manager(Stratos Controller)
>>> Cloud Controller
>>> Autoscaler
>>>
>>> Because above 3 are based on same carbon Kernal always, but WSO2
>>> servers(MB and CEP) cannot be guaranteed to be based on same Kernal
>>> version.
>>>
>>> We run load balancers as cartridges at the latest milestones. So you do
>>> not need to worry about installing them in the system.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18746437/wso2-api-manager-requirements
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using the
>>>> jvm parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
>>>>
>>>> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>> Software Engineer,
>>> Platform Technologies,
>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lakmal Warusawithana
>> Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
>> Mobile : +94714289692
>> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
> http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
>
--
--
Lahiru Sandaruwan
Software Engineer,
Platform Technologies,
WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
lean.enterprise.middleware
email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 11:25 AM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Lakmal - should I create a JIRA issue for this so that that I can be
> assigned?
>
>
Sure, please do.
>
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
>
>> IMO, we should optimize Stratos products to consume low memory footprint.
>> Now we are using vanilla carbon kernel and bundle features. We (in WSO2)
>> did this to some extend in past, run stratos2 in raspberry pi cluster.
>> [1][2][3]. We can do the same to Stratos 4.0 since Stratos committer/ppmc
>> already has couple of geeks involved to that project. :). Chris you lead
>> this, if you have some time :)
>>
>> [1]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/raspberry-pi-control-center.html
>> [2]
>> http://blog.afkham.org/2013/02/building-raspberry-pi-cluster-part-2.html
>> [3]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/why-we-built-raspberry-pi-cluster.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the late replies.
>>>
>>> Yes, the recommendation was due to number of JVMs. It is recommended to
>>> have 2 gb per carbon server, but it can be less if the load is less.
>>> You might get a small idea on standard recommendations if you want
>>> further information from my answer to [1].
>>>
>>> If you need to try out the products in single jvm, I'd recommend to
>>> assemble following 3 Stratos servers first and see.
>>>
>>> Stratos Manager(Stratos Controller)
>>> Cloud Controller
>>> Autoscaler
>>>
>>> Because above 3 are based on same carbon Kernal always, but WSO2
>>> servers(MB and CEP) cannot be guaranteed to be based on same Kernal
>>> version.
>>>
>>> We run load balancers as cartridges at the latest milestones. So you do
>>> not need to worry about installing them in the system.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18746437/wso2-api-manager-requirements
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using the
>>>> jvm parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
>>>>
>>>> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>> Software Engineer,
>>> Platform Technologies,
>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lakmal Warusawithana
>> Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
>> Mobile : +94714289692
>> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
> http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
>
--
Lakmal Warusawithana
Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
Mobile : +94714289692
Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Lakmal - should I create a JIRA issue for this so that that I can be
assigned?
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
> IMO, we should optimize Stratos products to consume low memory footprint.
> Now we are using vanilla carbon kernel and bundle features. We (in WSO2)
> did this to some extend in past, run stratos2 in raspberry pi cluster.
> [1][2][3]. We can do the same to Stratos 4.0 since Stratos committer/ppmc
> already has couple of geeks involved to that project. :). Chris you lead
> this, if you have some time :)
>
> [1]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/raspberry-pi-control-center.html
> [2]
> http://blog.afkham.org/2013/02/building-raspberry-pi-cluster-part-2.html
> [3]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/why-we-built-raspberry-pi-cluster.html
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Sorry for the late replies.
>>
>> Yes, the recommendation was due to number of JVMs. It is recommended to
>> have 2 gb per carbon server, but it can be less if the load is less.
>> You might get a small idea on standard recommendations if you want
>> further information from my answer to [1].
>>
>> If you need to try out the products in single jvm, I'd recommend to
>> assemble following 3 Stratos servers first and see.
>>
>> Stratos Manager(Stratos Controller)
>> Cloud Controller
>> Autoscaler
>>
>> Because above 3 are based on same carbon Kernal always, but WSO2
>> servers(MB and CEP) cannot be guaranteed to be based on same Kernal
>> version.
>>
>> We run load balancers as cartridges at the latest milestones. So you do
>> not need to worry about installing them in the system.
>>
>> [1]
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18746437/wso2-api-manager-requirements
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using the
>>> jvm parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
>>>
>>> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>> Software Engineer,
>> Platform Technologies,
>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>
>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Lakmal Warusawithana
> Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
> Mobile : +94714289692
> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
>
>
--
Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Pradeep Fernando <pr...@gmail.com>.
yes lakmal. will get it done..
thanks,
--Pradeep
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
> I think we need to create one Stratos pack and run in one JVM will reduce
> memory foot print. IFAIK Chris looked into this also. I think we can get
> Pradeep help on this, since he is expert on carbon stuff. @Pradeep can we
> get your help?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:15 PM, damitha kumarage <da...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris,
>> Yes I am too working on a setup on virtualbox(see thread "Docker support
>> for Stratos"). To run a Stratos setup on Openstack/Docker Iaas in the same
>> VM I need at least 5.2G memory which I think too big for average developer.
>>
>> Damitha
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:01 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Damitha,
>>>
>>> This is still on my list. I will probably focus on this after
>>> completing the first version of a scripted vagrant cloudstack +
>>> stratos environment. The first version of the environment will
>>> probably require a lot of memory (approx 10+ gb for the vagrant guest)
>>> which will make it inaccessible for a lot of people, so I expect the
>>> next focus will be to optimise that environment.
>>>
>>> As for timescales, that's a tough one to answer as I'm working on it
>>> in my free time :)
>>>
>>> What is the reason for your question? Are you finding the whole setup
>>> too heavyweight at the moment?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM, damitha kumarage <da...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Are there any plans on getting this done soon?
>>> >
>>> > Damitha
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> IMO, we should optimize Stratos products to consume low memory
>>> footprint.
>>> >> Now we are using vanilla carbon kernel and bundle features. We (in
>>> WSO2) did
>>> >> this to some extend in past, run stratos2 in raspberry pi cluster.
>>> >> [1][2][3]. We can do the same to Stratos 4.0 since Stratos
>>> committer/ppmc
>>> >> already has couple of geeks involved to that project. :). Chris you
>>> lead
>>> >> this, if you have some time :)
>>> >>
>>> >> [1]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/raspberry-pi-control-center.html
>>> >>
>>> >> [2]
>>> http://blog.afkham.org/2013/02/building-raspberry-pi-cluster-part-2.html
>>> >> [3]
>>> http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/why-we-built-raspberry-pi-cluster.html
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Chris,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sorry for the late replies.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, the recommendation was due to number of JVMs. It is recommended
>>> to
>>> >>> have 2 gb per carbon server, but it can be less if the load is less.
>>> >>> You might get a small idea on standard recommendations if you want
>>> >>> further information from my answer to [1].
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you need to try out the products in single jvm, I'd recommend to
>>> >>> assemble following 3 Stratos servers first and see.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Stratos Manager(Stratos Controller)
>>> >>> Cloud Controller
>>> >>> Autoscaler
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Because above 3 are based on same carbon Kernal always, but WSO2
>>> >>> servers(MB and CEP) cannot be guaranteed to be based on same Kernal
>>> version.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We run load balancers as cartridges at the latest milestones. So you
>>> do
>>> >>> not need to worry about installing them in the system.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> [1]
>>> >>>
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18746437/wso2-api-manager-requirements
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using
>>> the
>>> >>>> jvm parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>> >>> Software Engineer,
>>> >>> Platform Technologies,
>>> >>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>> >>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>> >>>
>>> >>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>> >>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>> >>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Lakmal Warusawithana
>>> >> Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
>>> >> Mobile : +94714289692
>>> >> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > __________________________________________________________________
>>> > Damitha Kumarage
>>> > http://people.apache.org/
>>> > __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
>>> http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> Damitha Kumarage
>> http://people.apache.org/
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Lakmal Warusawithana
> Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
> Mobile : +94714289692
> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
>
>
--
Pradeep Fernando.
http://pradeepfernando.blogspot.com/
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>.
I think we need to create one Stratos pack and run in one JVM will reduce
memory foot print. IFAIK Chris looked into this also. I think we can get
Pradeep help on this, since he is expert on carbon stuff. @Pradeep can we
get your help?
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:15 PM, damitha kumarage <da...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> Yes I am too working on a setup on virtualbox(see thread "Docker support
> for Stratos"). To run a Stratos setup on Openstack/Docker Iaas in the same
> VM I need at least 5.2G memory which I think too big for average developer.
>
> Damitha
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:01 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Damitha,
>>
>> This is still on my list. I will probably focus on this after
>> completing the first version of a scripted vagrant cloudstack +
>> stratos environment. The first version of the environment will
>> probably require a lot of memory (approx 10+ gb for the vagrant guest)
>> which will make it inaccessible for a lot of people, so I expect the
>> next focus will be to optimise that environment.
>>
>> As for timescales, that's a tough one to answer as I'm working on it
>> in my free time :)
>>
>> What is the reason for your question? Are you finding the whole setup
>> too heavyweight at the moment?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM, damitha kumarage <da...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Are there any plans on getting this done soon?
>> >
>> > Damitha
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> IMO, we should optimize Stratos products to consume low memory
>> footprint.
>> >> Now we are using vanilla carbon kernel and bundle features. We (in
>> WSO2) did
>> >> this to some extend in past, run stratos2 in raspberry pi cluster.
>> >> [1][2][3]. We can do the same to Stratos 4.0 since Stratos
>> committer/ppmc
>> >> already has couple of geeks involved to that project. :). Chris you
>> lead
>> >> this, if you have some time :)
>> >>
>> >> [1]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/raspberry-pi-control-center.html
>> >>
>> >> [2]
>> http://blog.afkham.org/2013/02/building-raspberry-pi-cluster-part-2.html
>> >> [3]
>> http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/why-we-built-raspberry-pi-cluster.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Chris,
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry for the late replies.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, the recommendation was due to number of JVMs. It is recommended
>> to
>> >>> have 2 gb per carbon server, but it can be less if the load is less.
>> >>> You might get a small idea on standard recommendations if you want
>> >>> further information from my answer to [1].
>> >>>
>> >>> If you need to try out the products in single jvm, I'd recommend to
>> >>> assemble following 3 Stratos servers first and see.
>> >>>
>> >>> Stratos Manager(Stratos Controller)
>> >>> Cloud Controller
>> >>> Autoscaler
>> >>>
>> >>> Because above 3 are based on same carbon Kernal always, but WSO2
>> >>> servers(MB and CEP) cannot be guaranteed to be based on same Kernal
>> version.
>> >>>
>> >>> We run load balancers as cartridges at the latest milestones. So you
>> do
>> >>> not need to worry about installing them in the system.
>> >>>
>> >>> [1]
>> >>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18746437/wso2-api-manager-requirements
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using the
>> >>>> jvm parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> --
>> >>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>> >>> Software Engineer,
>> >>> Platform Technologies,
>> >>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>> >>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>> >>>
>> >>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>> >>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>> >>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Lakmal Warusawithana
>> >> Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
>> >> Mobile : +94714289692
>> >> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > __________________________________________________________________
>> > Damitha Kumarage
>> > http://people.apache.org/
>> > __________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
>> http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
>>
>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________________________
> Damitha Kumarage
> http://people.apache.org/
> __________________________________________________________________
>
--
Lakmal Warusawithana
Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
Mobile : +94714289692
Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by damitha kumarage <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi Chris,
Yes I am too working on a setup on virtualbox(see thread "Docker support
for Stratos"). To run a Stratos setup on Openstack/Docker Iaas in the same
VM I need at least 5.2G memory which I think too big for average developer.
Damitha
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:01 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Damitha,
>
> This is still on my list. I will probably focus on this after
> completing the first version of a scripted vagrant cloudstack +
> stratos environment. The first version of the environment will
> probably require a lot of memory (approx 10+ gb for the vagrant guest)
> which will make it inaccessible for a lot of people, so I expect the
> next focus will be to optimise that environment.
>
> As for timescales, that's a tough one to answer as I'm working on it
> in my free time :)
>
> What is the reason for your question? Are you finding the whole setup
> too heavyweight at the moment?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM, damitha kumarage <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Are there any plans on getting this done soon?
> >
> > Damitha
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> IMO, we should optimize Stratos products to consume low memory
> footprint.
> >> Now we are using vanilla carbon kernel and bundle features. We (in
> WSO2) did
> >> this to some extend in past, run stratos2 in raspberry pi cluster.
> >> [1][2][3]. We can do the same to Stratos 4.0 since Stratos
> committer/ppmc
> >> already has couple of geeks involved to that project. :). Chris you lead
> >> this, if you have some time :)
> >>
> >> [1]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/raspberry-pi-control-center.html
> >>
> >> [2]
> http://blog.afkham.org/2013/02/building-raspberry-pi-cluster-part-2.html
> >> [3]
> http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/why-we-built-raspberry-pi-cluster.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Chris,
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for the late replies.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the recommendation was due to number of JVMs. It is recommended to
> >>> have 2 gb per carbon server, but it can be less if the load is less.
> >>> You might get a small idea on standard recommendations if you want
> >>> further information from my answer to [1].
> >>>
> >>> If you need to try out the products in single jvm, I'd recommend to
> >>> assemble following 3 Stratos servers first and see.
> >>>
> >>> Stratos Manager(Stratos Controller)
> >>> Cloud Controller
> >>> Autoscaler
> >>>
> >>> Because above 3 are based on same carbon Kernal always, but WSO2
> >>> servers(MB and CEP) cannot be guaranteed to be based on same Kernal
> version.
> >>>
> >>> We run load balancers as cartridges at the latest milestones. So you do
> >>> not need to worry about installing them in the system.
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18746437/wso2-api-manager-requirements
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using the
> >>>> jvm parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
> >>>>
> >>>> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
> >>> Software Engineer,
> >>> Platform Technologies,
> >>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
> >>> lean.enterprise.middleware
> >>>
> >>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
> >>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
> >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
> >>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Lakmal Warusawithana
> >> Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
> >> Mobile : +94714289692
> >> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________________________
> > Damitha Kumarage
> > http://people.apache.org/
> > __________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
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__________________________________________________________________
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Damitha,
This is still on my list. I will probably focus on this after
completing the first version of a scripted vagrant cloudstack +
stratos environment. The first version of the environment will
probably require a lot of memory (approx 10+ gb for the vagrant guest)
which will make it inaccessible for a lot of people, so I expect the
next focus will be to optimise that environment.
As for timescales, that's a tough one to answer as I'm working on it
in my free time :)
What is the reason for your question? Are you finding the whole setup
too heavyweight at the moment?
Cheers,
Chris
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM, damitha kumarage <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are there any plans on getting this done soon?
>
> Damitha
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> IMO, we should optimize Stratos products to consume low memory footprint.
>> Now we are using vanilla carbon kernel and bundle features. We (in WSO2) did
>> this to some extend in past, run stratos2 in raspberry pi cluster.
>> [1][2][3]. We can do the same to Stratos 4.0 since Stratos committer/ppmc
>> already has couple of geeks involved to that project. :). Chris you lead
>> this, if you have some time :)
>>
>> [1]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/raspberry-pi-control-center.html
>>
>> [2]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/02/building-raspberry-pi-cluster-part-2.html
>> [3]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/why-we-built-raspberry-pi-cluster.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the late replies.
>>>
>>> Yes, the recommendation was due to number of JVMs. It is recommended to
>>> have 2 gb per carbon server, but it can be less if the load is less.
>>> You might get a small idea on standard recommendations if you want
>>> further information from my answer to [1].
>>>
>>> If you need to try out the products in single jvm, I'd recommend to
>>> assemble following 3 Stratos servers first and see.
>>>
>>> Stratos Manager(Stratos Controller)
>>> Cloud Controller
>>> Autoscaler
>>>
>>> Because above 3 are based on same carbon Kernal always, but WSO2
>>> servers(MB and CEP) cannot be guaranteed to be based on same Kernal version.
>>>
>>> We run load balancers as cartridges at the latest milestones. So you do
>>> not need to worry about installing them in the system.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18746437/wso2-api-manager-requirements
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using the
>>>> jvm parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
>>>>
>>>> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>> Software Engineer,
>>> Platform Technologies,
>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lakmal Warusawithana
>> Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
>> Mobile : +94714289692
>> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________________________
> Damitha Kumarage
> http://people.apache.org/
> __________________________________________________________________
--
Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by damitha kumarage <da...@gmail.com>.
Are there any plans on getting this done soon?
Damitha
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
> IMO, we should optimize Stratos products to consume low memory footprint.
> Now we are using vanilla carbon kernel and bundle features. We (in WSO2)
> did this to some extend in past, run stratos2 in raspberry pi cluster.
> [1][2][3]. We can do the same to Stratos 4.0 since Stratos committer/ppmc
> already has couple of geeks involved to that project. :). Chris you lead
> this, if you have some time :)
>
> [1]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/raspberry-pi-control-center.html
> [2]
> http://blog.afkham.org/2013/02/building-raspberry-pi-cluster-part-2.html
> [3]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/why-we-built-raspberry-pi-cluster.html
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Sorry for the late replies.
>>
>> Yes, the recommendation was due to number of JVMs. It is recommended to
>> have 2 gb per carbon server, but it can be less if the load is less.
>> You might get a small idea on standard recommendations if you want
>> further information from my answer to [1].
>>
>> If you need to try out the products in single jvm, I'd recommend to
>> assemble following 3 Stratos servers first and see.
>>
>> Stratos Manager(Stratos Controller)
>> Cloud Controller
>> Autoscaler
>>
>> Because above 3 are based on same carbon Kernal always, but WSO2
>> servers(MB and CEP) cannot be guaranteed to be based on same Kernal
>> version.
>>
>> We run load balancers as cartridges at the latest milestones. So you do
>> not need to worry about installing them in the system.
>>
>> [1]
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18746437/wso2-api-manager-requirements
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using the
>>> jvm parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
>>>
>>> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>> Software Engineer,
>> Platform Technologies,
>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>
>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Lakmal Warusawithana
> Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
> Mobile : +94714289692
> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
>
>
--
__________________________________________________________________
Damitha Kumarage
http://people.apache.org/
__________________________________________________________________
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>.
IMO, we should optimize Stratos products to consume low memory footprint.
Now we are using vanilla carbon kernel and bundle features. We (in WSO2)
did this to some extend in past, run stratos2 in raspberry pi cluster.
[1][2][3]. We can do the same to Stratos 4.0 since Stratos committer/ppmc
already has couple of geeks involved to that project. :). Chris you lead
this, if you have some time :)
[1]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/raspberry-pi-control-center.html
[2]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/02/building-raspberry-pi-cluster-part-2.html
[3]http://blog.afkham.org/2013/01/why-we-built-raspberry-pi-cluster.html
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Sorry for the late replies.
>
> Yes, the recommendation was due to number of JVMs. It is recommended to
> have 2 gb per carbon server, but it can be less if the load is less.
> You might get a small idea on standard recommendations if you want further
> information from my answer to [1].
>
> If you need to try out the products in single jvm, I'd recommend to
> assemble following 3 Stratos servers first and see.
>
> Stratos Manager(Stratos Controller)
> Cloud Controller
> Autoscaler
>
> Because above 3 are based on same carbon Kernal always, but WSO2
> servers(MB and CEP) cannot be guaranteed to be based on same Kernal
> version.
>
> We run load balancers as cartridges at the latest milestones. So you do
> not need to worry about installing them in the system.
>
> [1]
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18746437/wso2-api-manager-requirements
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using the jvm
>> parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
>>
>> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Lahiru Sandaruwan
> Software Engineer,
> Platform Technologies,
> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
> lean.enterprise.middleware
>
> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>
>
--
Lakmal Warusawithana
Software Architect; WSO2 Inc.
Mobile : +94714289692
Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>.
Hi Chris,
Sorry for the late replies.
Yes, the recommendation was due to number of JVMs. It is recommended to
have 2 gb per carbon server, but it can be less if the load is less.
You might get a small idea on standard recommendations if you want further
information from my answer to [1].
If you need to try out the products in single jvm, I'd recommend to
assemble following 3 Stratos servers first and see.
Stratos Manager(Stratos Controller)
Cloud Controller
Autoscaler
Because above 3 are based on same carbon Kernal always, but WSO2 servers(MB
and CEP) cannot be guaranteed to be based on same Kernal version.
We run load balancers as cartridges at the latest milestones. So you do not
need to worry about installing them in the system.
[1]
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18746437/wso2-api-manager-requirements
Thanks.
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using the jvm
> parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
>
> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>
--
--
Lahiru Sandaruwan
Software Engineer,
Platform Technologies,
WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
lean.enterprise.middleware
email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com>.
Hi,
Carbon servers min/max memory consumption can be configured using the jvm
parameters in stratos.sh file. Could you have a look.
Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Lahiru,
Why is the memory requirement for stratos so high? Is the main reason due
to the number of carbon instances that need to be running?
Please excuse my naivety, but I would have expected the load balancers to
have high memory requirements when lots of clients are connected, but the
rest of stratos products, I thought would be have much lower demands as
they shouldn't be processing a large number of transactions (events) per
second?
Many thanks,
Chris
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 1:44 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> HI Lahiru,
>>
>> Does the single 8 gb machine include all the stratos products and
>> openstack, or do you need another 8 gb machine for openstack?
>>
>
> Yes :)
>
> Anyway i would recommend a 8 gb machine for openstack as well.(4gb might
> do marginally). Because if you test autoscaling etc., VMs that are spawned
> would require some memory in addition to Openstack servers.
>
>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> Even for a developer environment, it would be difficult to locate errors
>>> etc., if we run all in one.
>>>
>>> On the other hand we can run all the instances in one machine(8 gb
>>> memory would do) and use installer script to setup the environment easily.
>>>
>>> We will have a puppet based setup script as well in the near future.
>>> Until that we can use the bash script we have. It is in a testable state
>>> and committed to source AFAIK.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:55 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Nirmal, thanks for the info.
>>>>
>>>> I'll focus on understanding how to perform a individual product
>>>> deployments before attempting to tackle a single JVM deployment of Stratos.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Nirmal Fernando <nirmal070125@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, January 3, 2014, chris snow wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm working on scripts to create a runtime environment for stratos
>>>>>> consisting of:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - 4.0.0 Message Broker Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Message+Broker+Configuration>
>>>>>> - 4.0.0 Load Balancer Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Load+Balancer+Configuration>
>>>>>> - 4.0.0 Cloud Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Cloud+Controller+Configuration>
>>>>>> - 4.0.0 Stratos Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Stratos+Controller+Configuration>
>>>>>> - 4.0.0 AutoScaler Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+AutoScaler+Configuration>
>>>>>> - 4.0.0 Complex Event Processor Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Complex+Event+Processor+Configuration>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the moment, I'm unzipping and configuring each of the 6 products
>>>>>> to run as standalone component, but this seems quite inefficient for a
>>>>>> developer environment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to deploy all the products together on a single carbon
>>>>>> runtime?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This should be carefully done and would not be an easy task IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it make sense to deploy all the products together?
>>>>>>
>>>>> For a development setup, it would make sense to minimize the number of
>>>>> JVMs.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a single runtime with all the features, do I just need to copy
>>>>>> the feature zip files and adapt the instructions on the wiki:
>>>>>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the best way is to start from a vanila Carbon runtime and
>>>>> install the features used in each product.
>>>>> But I'm afraid this is a time consuming task.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>
>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
>>>> http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>> Software Engineer,
>>> Platform Technologies,
>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
>> http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Lahiru Sandaruwan
> Software Engineer,
> Platform Technologies,
> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
> lean.enterprise.middleware
>
> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>
>
--
Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
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Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>.
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 1:44 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> HI Lahiru,
>
> Does the single 8 gb machine include all the stratos products and
> openstack, or do you need another 8 gb machine for openstack?
>
Yes :)
Anyway i would recommend a 8 gb machine for openstack as well.(4gb might do
marginally). Because if you test autoscaling etc., VMs that are spawned
would require some memory in addition to Openstack servers.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Even for a developer environment, it would be difficult to locate errors
>> etc., if we run all in one.
>>
>> On the other hand we can run all the instances in one machine(8 gb memory
>> would do) and use installer script to setup the environment easily.
>>
>> We will have a puppet based setup script as well in the near future.
>> Until that we can use the bash script we have. It is in a testable state
>> and committed to source AFAIK.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:55 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nirmal, thanks for the info.
>>>
>>> I'll focus on understanding how to perform a individual product
>>> deployments before attempting to tackle a single JVM deployment of Stratos.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 3, 2014, chris snow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm working on scripts to create a runtime environment for stratos
>>>>> consisting of:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - 4.0.0 Message Broker Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Message+Broker+Configuration>
>>>>> - 4.0.0 Load Balancer Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Load+Balancer+Configuration>
>>>>> - 4.0.0 Cloud Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Cloud+Controller+Configuration>
>>>>> - 4.0.0 Stratos Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Stratos+Controller+Configuration>
>>>>> - 4.0.0 AutoScaler Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+AutoScaler+Configuration>
>>>>> - 4.0.0 Complex Event Processor Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Complex+Event+Processor+Configuration>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At the moment, I'm unzipping and configuring each of the 6 products to
>>>>> run as standalone component, but this seems quite inefficient for a
>>>>> developer environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to deploy all the products together on a single carbon
>>>>> runtime?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This should be carefully done and would not be an easy task IMO.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does it make sense to deploy all the products together?
>>>>>
>>>> For a development setup, it would make sense to minimize the number of
>>>> JVMs.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For a single runtime with all the features, do I just need to copy the
>>>>> feature zip files and adapt the instructions on the wiki:
>>>>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the best way is to start from a vanila Carbon runtime and
>>>> install the features used in each product.
>>>> But I'm afraid this is a time consuming task.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Nirmal
>>>>
>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
>>> http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>> Software Engineer,
>> Platform Technologies,
>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>
>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
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>>
>>
>
>
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Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
HI Lahiru,
Does the single 8 gb machine include all the stratos products and
openstack, or do you need another 8 gb machine for openstack?
Many thanks,
Chris
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Even for a developer environment, it would be difficult to locate errors
> etc., if we run all in one.
>
> On the other hand we can run all the instances in one machine(8 gb memory
> would do) and use installer script to setup the environment easily.
>
> We will have a puppet based setup script as well in the near future. Until
> that we can use the bash script we have. It is in a testable state and
> committed to source AFAIK.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:55 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nirmal, thanks for the info.
>>
>> I'll focus on understanding how to perform a individual product
>> deployments before attempting to tackle a single JVM deployment of Stratos.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 3, 2014, chris snow wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>
>>>> I'm working on scripts to create a runtime environment for stratos
>>>> consisting of:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - 4.0.0 Message Broker Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Message+Broker+Configuration>
>>>> - 4.0.0 Load Balancer Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Load+Balancer+Configuration>
>>>> - 4.0.0 Cloud Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Cloud+Controller+Configuration>
>>>> - 4.0.0 Stratos Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Stratos+Controller+Configuration>
>>>> - 4.0.0 AutoScaler Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+AutoScaler+Configuration>
>>>> - 4.0.0 Complex Event Processor Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Complex+Event+Processor+Configuration>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At the moment, I'm unzipping and configuring each of the 6 products to
>>>> run as standalone component, but this seems quite inefficient for a
>>>> developer environment.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to deploy all the products together on a single carbon
>>>> runtime?
>>>>
>>>
>>> This should be carefully done and would not be an easy task IMO.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does it make sense to deploy all the products together?
>>>>
>>> For a development setup, it would make sense to minimize the number of
>>> JVMs.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For a single runtime with all the features, do I just need to copy the
>>>> feature zip files and adapt the instructions on the wiki:
>>>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think the best way is to start from a vanila Carbon runtime and
>>> install the features used in each product.
>>> But I'm afraid this is a time consuming task.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Nirmal
>>>
>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>
>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
>> http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Lahiru Sandaruwan
> Software Engineer,
> Platform Technologies,
> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
> lean.enterprise.middleware
>
> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
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>
>
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Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>.
Hi Chris,
Even for a developer environment, it would be difficult to locate errors
etc., if we run all in one.
On the other hand we can run all the instances in one machine(8 gb memory
would do) and use installer script to setup the environment easily.
We will have a puppet based setup script as well in the near future. Until
that we can use the bash script we have. It is in a testable state and
committed to source AFAIK.
Thanks.
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:55 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Nirmal, thanks for the info.
>
> I'll focus on understanding how to perform a individual product
> deployments before attempting to tackle a single JVM deployment of Stratos.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> On Friday, January 3, 2014, chris snow wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Devs,
>>>
>>> I'm working on scripts to create a runtime environment for stratos
>>> consisting of:
>>>
>>>
>>> - 4.0.0 Message Broker Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Message+Broker+Configuration>
>>> - 4.0.0 Load Balancer Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Load+Balancer+Configuration>
>>> - 4.0.0 Cloud Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Cloud+Controller+Configuration>
>>> - 4.0.0 Stratos Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Stratos+Controller+Configuration>
>>> - 4.0.0 AutoScaler Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+AutoScaler+Configuration>
>>> - 4.0.0 Complex Event Processor Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Complex+Event+Processor+Configuration>
>>>
>>>
>>> At the moment, I'm unzipping and configuring each of the 6 products to
>>> run as standalone component, but this seems quite inefficient for a
>>> developer environment.
>>>
>>> Is it possible to deploy all the products together on a single carbon
>>> runtime?
>>>
>>
>> This should be carefully done and would not be an easy task IMO.
>>
>>>
>>> Does it make sense to deploy all the products together?
>>>
>> For a development setup, it would make sense to minimize the number of
>> JVMs.
>>
>>>
>>> For a single runtime with all the features, do I just need to copy the
>>> feature zip files and adapt the instructions on the wiki:
>>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration>
>>>
>>
>> I think the best way is to start from a vanila Carbon runtime and install
>> the features used in each product.
>> But I'm afraid this is a time consuming task.
>>
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration
>>> ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Nirmal
>>
>> Nirmal Fernando.
>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>
>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
> http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
>
--
--
Lahiru Sandaruwan
Software Engineer,
Platform Technologies,
WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
lean.enterprise.middleware
email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Nirmal, thanks for the info.
I'll focus on understanding how to perform a individual product deployments
before attempting to tackle a single JVM deployment of Stratos.
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> On Friday, January 3, 2014, chris snow wrote:
>
>> Hi Devs,
>>
>> I'm working on scripts to create a runtime environment for stratos
>> consisting of:
>>
>>
>> - 4.0.0 Message Broker Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Message+Broker+Configuration>
>> - 4.0.0 Load Balancer Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Load+Balancer+Configuration>
>> - 4.0.0 Cloud Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Cloud+Controller+Configuration>
>> - 4.0.0 Stratos Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Stratos+Controller+Configuration>
>> - 4.0.0 AutoScaler Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+AutoScaler+Configuration>
>> - 4.0.0 Complex Event Processor Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Complex+Event+Processor+Configuration>
>>
>>
>> At the moment, I'm unzipping and configuring each of the 6 products to
>> run as standalone component, but this seems quite inefficient for a
>> developer environment.
>>
>> Is it possible to deploy all the products together on a single carbon
>> runtime?
>>
>
> This should be carefully done and would not be an easy task IMO.
>
>>
>> Does it make sense to deploy all the products together?
>>
> For a development setup, it would make sense to minimize the number of
> JVMs.
>
>>
>> For a single runtime with all the features, do I just need to copy the
>> feature zip files and adapt the instructions on the wiki:
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration>
>>
>
> I think the best way is to start from a vanila Carbon runtime and install
> the features used in each product.
> But I'm afraid this is a time consuming task.
>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration
>> ?
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
>
--
Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hi Chris,
On Friday, January 3, 2014, chris snow wrote:
> Hi Devs,
>
> I'm working on scripts to create a runtime environment for stratos
> consisting of:
>
>
> - 4.0.0 Message Broker Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Message+Broker+Configuration>
> - 4.0.0 Load Balancer Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Load+Balancer+Configuration>
> - 4.0.0 Cloud Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Cloud+Controller+Configuration>
> - 4.0.0 Stratos Controller Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Stratos+Controller+Configuration>
> - 4.0.0 AutoScaler Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+AutoScaler+Configuration>
> - 4.0.0 Complex Event Processor Configuration<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Complex+Event+Processor+Configuration>
>
>
> At the moment, I'm unzipping and configuring each of the 6 products to run
> as standalone component, but this seems quite inefficient for a developer
> environment.
>
> Is it possible to deploy all the products together on a single carbon
> runtime?
>
This should be carefully done and would not be an easy task IMO.
>
> Does it make sense to deploy all the products together?
>
For a development setup, it would make sense to minimize the number of
JVMs.
>
> For a single runtime with all the features, do I just need to copy the
> feature zip files and adapt the instructions on the wiki:
>
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration>
>
I think the best way is to start from a vanila Carbon runtime and install
the features used in each product.
But I'm afraid this is a time consuming task.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Product+Configuration
> ?
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Chris
>
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
ah, thanks Udara.
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
> You can use the installer script I guess(setup.sh)
>
> Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
>
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Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com>.
You can use the installer script I guess(setup.sh)
Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.
Re: development environment stratos runtime setup
Posted by Udara Liyanage <ud...@wso2.com>.
I'm nor sure is it possible to put all the products into one. Even possible
it may not make any sense.
Touched, not typed. Erroneous words are a feature, not a typo.