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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net> on 2010/01/31 20:56:15 UTC
PORTERS QUESTION: SA 3.3.0 and rules
Working on official SA 3.3.0 port for Freebsd, have a Question:
if user who installs SA 3.3.0 does NOT install or use sa-update, then I
have to install the default ruleset.
where should I put it? into the updates directory?
../3.003000/updates_spamassassin_org/
or where it was for 3.2.5? ../share/mail/spamassassin?
assuming they will either NEVER update it, or they will (someday) get
smart and run sa-update?
where is the best place to put it?
and, will checksum/location of default ruleset ever change?
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Re: PORTERS QUESTION: SA 3.3.0 and rules
Posted by Justin Mason <jm...@jmason.org>.
it's a "release version" -- each release's version of that file and
its sigs will never change.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:55, Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/1/10 5:52 AM, Justin Mason wrote:
>
> In this case, I would use the sa-update --install option.
>
>
>
> thanks, yes, I think during the freebsd fetch, I will fetch both tarballs,
> install the default rule set so that if they start spamd or run SA, it won't
> fail.
> (so that it is consistent with existing installations)
>
> Q: will that 'default' tarball of rules ALWAYS be available? and ALWAYS have
> the same md5 sig and size? or will it change?
> if it 'moves' or changes, then ports and rpm maintainers will need a
> 'static', (release version) that doesn't change.
>
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Re: PORTERS QUESTION: SA 3.3.0 and rules
Posted by Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net>.
On 2/1/10 5:52 AM, Justin Mason wrote:
> In this case, I would use the sa-update --install option.
>
>
thanks, yes, I think during the freebsd fetch, I will fetch both
tarballs, install the default rule set so that if they start spamd or
run SA, it won't fail.
(so that it is consistent with existing installations)
Q: will that 'default' tarball of rules ALWAYS be available? and ALWAYS
have the same md5 sig and size? or will it change?
if it 'moves' or changes, then ports and rpm maintainers will need a
'static', (release version) that doesn't change.
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Re: PORTERS QUESTION: SA 3.3.0 and rules
Posted by Justin Mason <jm...@jmason.org>.
In this case, I would use the sa-update --install option.
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 19:56, Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net> wrote:
> Working on official SA 3.3.0 port for Freebsd, have a Question:
> if user who installs SA 3.3.0 does NOT install or use sa-update, then I have
> to install the default ruleset.
> where should I put it? into the updates directory?
> ../3.003000/updates_spamassassin_org/
> or where it was for 3.2.5? ../share/mail/spamassassin?
>
> assuming they will either NEVER update it, or they will (someday) get smart
> and run sa-update?
> where is the best place to put it?
> and, will checksum/location of default ruleset ever change?
>
> --
> Michael Scheidell, CTO
> Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259
>> *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation
>
> * Certified SNORT Integrator
> * 2008-9 Hot Company Award Winner, World Executive Alliance
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> * Best Anti-Spam Product 2008, Network Products Guide
> * King of Spam Filters, SC Magazine 2008
>
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Re: PORTERS QUESTION: SA 3.3.0 and rules
Posted by Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net>.
On 1/31/10 3:51 PM, Jack Raats wrote:
>
> I would vote for the update directory and automagically run sa-update
> when installing the port unattended.
>
would save disk space, and (I assume) overwrite older files.
however.. there still is ../share/spamassassin
these files anyway: (raw install, no updates or compiles.. ps sa-compile
seems to work fine in freebsd 7.1, amd64.
languages
sa-update-pubkey.txt
user_prefs.templat
i hate leaving a small dir with 'muck' in it.
on the otherhand, why suck in ../share/spamassassin cf files and then
updates. but if I put them in updates, how do you delete old cf files.
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Re: PORTERS QUESTION: SA 3.3.0 and rules
Posted by RW <rw...@googlemail.com>.
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:21:10 -0500
Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net> wrote:
> maybe I should have read ../INSTALL file :-)
> Install rules from a compressed tar archive:
>
> sa-update --install Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-xxx.tgz
>
Isn't it sending out the wrong message to automate this as an install
option?
Re: PORTERS QUESTION: SA 3.3.0 and rules
Posted by LuKreme <kr...@kreme.com>.
On 31-Jan-2010, at 14:21, Michael Scheidell wrote:
>
> maybe I should have read ../INSTALL file :-)
> Install rules from a compressed tar archive:
>
> sa-update --install Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-xxx.tgz
Does this mean 3.3.0 should now show up in ports?
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Re: PORTERS QUESTION: SA 3.3.0 and rules
Posted by Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net>.
maybe I should have read ../INSTALL file :-)
Install rules from a compressed tar archive:
sa-update --install Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-xxx.tgz
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Re: PORTERS QUESTION: SA 3.3.0 and rules
Posted by Jack Raats <ja...@jarasoft.net>.
From: "Michael Scheidell" <sc...@secnap.net>
> Working on official SA 3.3.0 port for Freebsd, have a Question:
> if user who installs SA 3.3.0 does NOT install or use sa-update, then I
> have to install the default ruleset.
> where should I put it? into the updates directory?
> ../3.003000/updates_spamassassin_org/
> or where it was for 3.2.5? ../share/mail/spamassassin?
I would vote for the update directory and automagically run sa-update when
installing the port unattended.
Jack Raats