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Posted to dev@tomcat.apache.org by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> on 2006/06/10 23:53:20 UTC
[VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
All,
Having just closed the last open bug for 4.1.x (only enhancement
requests left) now seems like a good time for a 4.1.32 release.
I am volunteering to be the release manager and given the discussions
on voting at the time of the last 5.5.x release, I am proposing the
following:
- vote to release the current 4.1.x trunk as 4.1.32-beta
- 2 weeks for testing
- stability vote
As usual, only committer votes are binding but everyone's input is
welcome. Given that it is the weekend, I intend letting this vote run
a little longer than usual until close of play Wednesday 14 June 2006.
[ ] +1 I am in favour of a 4.1.32-beta release
[ ] +0 I don't mind
[ ] -1 I am against a 4.1.32-beta release because ...
Mark
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Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
It is implied, given I started the thread but to make it clear...
> [X] +1 I am in favour of a 4.1.32-beta release
Mark
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Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?: I think Bug 39769 applies to T4 4.1.31
too..
Posted by David Gagnon <dg...@siunik.com>.
Hi,
I just opened Bug 39769 yesterday agains T5.5 but I looked into the
code this morning and it's in T4.1.31 too. It's quite simple to fix but
maybe it should be in 4.1.32 too?
Best Regards
/David
Mark Thomas wrote:
>All,
>
>Having just closed the last open bug for 4.1.x (only enhancement
>requests left) now seems like a good time for a 4.1.32 release.
>
>I am volunteering to be the release manager and given the discussions
>on voting at the time of the last 5.5.x release, I am proposing the
>following:
>- vote to release the current 4.1.x trunk as 4.1.32-beta
>- 2 weeks for testing
>- stability vote
>
>As usual, only committer votes are binding but everyone's input is
>welcome. Given that it is the weekend, I intend letting this vote run
>a little longer than usual until close of play Wednesday 14 June 2006.
>[ ] +1 I am in favour of a 4.1.32-beta release
>[ ] +0 I don't mind
>[ ] -1 I am against a 4.1.32-beta release because ...
>
>Mark
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Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Mark Thomas wrote:
> That's 2 +1's and a +0. Any committer care to chip in with another +1
> so I can go ahead with the beta release?
+1.
Rémy
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Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com>.
+1
Mark Thomas wrote:
> That's 2 +1's and a +0. Any committer care to chip in with another +1
> so I can go ahead with the beta release?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> Peter Rossbach wrote:
>
>> [x ] +1 I am in favour of a 4.1.32-beta release
>>
>> Great job :-)
>>
>> peter
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Rainer Jung <ra...@kippdata.de>.
+1
Rainer
Mark Thomas wrote:
> That's 2 +1's and a +0. Any committer care to chip in with another +1
> so I can go ahead with the beta release?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> Peter Rossbach wrote:
>> [x ] +1 I am in favour of a 4.1.32-beta release
>>
>> Great job :-)
>>
>> peter
>
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RE: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Bill Barker <wb...@wilshire.com>.
+1
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:04 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
>
> That's 2 +1's and a +0. Any committer care to chip in with another +1
> so I can go ahead with the beta release?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> Peter Rossbach wrote:
> > [x ] +1 I am in favour of a 4.1.32-beta release
> >
> > Great job :-)
> >
> > peter
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Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
That's 2 +1's and a +0. Any committer care to chip in with another +1
so I can go ahead with the beta release?
Cheers,
Mark
Peter Rossbach wrote:
> [x ] +1 I am in favour of a 4.1.32-beta release
>
> Great job :-)
>
> peter
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Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Peter Rossbach <pr...@objektpark.de>.
[x ] +1 I am in favour of a 4.1.32-beta release
Great job :-)
peter
Am 10.06.2006 um 23:53 schrieb Mark Thomas:
> [ ] +1 I am in favour of a 4.1.32-beta release
Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>.
Hi,
+0. If you wanna do it, have fun, but I don't want to spend time on it myself.
Yoav
On 6/11/06, Darryl Miles <da...@netbauds.net> wrote:
> Mark Thomas wrote:
> > Having just closed the last open bug for 4.1.x (only enhancement
> > requests left) now seems like a good time for a 4.1.32 release.
>
> Maybe this patch for 4.1.x needs review too:
> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=38795
>
>
> > As usual, only committer votes are binding but everyone's input is
> > welcome.
>
> Don't use 4.1.x myself but I can sure see many questions and support
> requests in other forums (non-tomcat specific) from users using it. I'm
> sure they will appreciate the effort.
>
> Darryl
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Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Darryl Miles <da...@netbauds.net>.
Mark Thomas wrote:
> Having just closed the last open bug for 4.1.x (only enhancement
> requests left) now seems like a good time for a 4.1.32 release.
Maybe this patch for 4.1.x needs review too:
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=38795
> As usual, only committer votes are binding but everyone's input is
> welcome.
Don't use 4.1.x myself but I can sure see many questions and support
requests in other forums (non-tomcat specific) from users using it. I'm
sure they will appreciate the effort.
Darryl
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Mark Thomas wrote:
>
> To clarify the position on the beta status, the Tomcat project has
> historically (at least as long as I have been involved anyway)
> released initially as Alpha/Beta as deemed appropriate, given people a
> few weeks to test and then had a stability vote. I intend to follow
> the same path for 4.1.32.
+1 - and I really think this is a great thing that Tomcat does for it's users.
Some weeks I wish httpd still did the same ;)
My earlier comment was specifically about 4.1 - I'd certainly like to keep
seeing stability votes on the rapidly changing 5.5 flavors, etc. And if you
want to follow the beta-stable path for 4.1 there's certainly nothing wrong
with that.
> Thanks again for the clarification,
No problem.
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
Bill,
Thanks for clarifying things. I read through
http://www.apache.org/dev/#releases but didn't find anything as
definitive and clear as your summary. I'll happily follow the process
you outlined for 4.1.32
To clarify the position on the beta status, the Tomcat project has
historically (at least as long as I have been involved anyway)
released initially as Alpha/Beta as deemed appropriate, given people a
few weeks to test and then had a stability vote. I intend to follow
the same path for 4.1.32.
Thanks again for the clarification,
Mark
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Anytime a committer wants, they are absolutely free to tag the tree and tar the
> build. But at that moment, it's a 'plain old tarball', it's not a release (even
> if there was a vote beforehand like this one.)
FYI - there's a reason for this. Even if there are competing interests, nobody
can single handedly block another release, or even a small minority. Putting
releases into user's hands is what the ASF is all about. Good ones we hope :)
It might seem arcane, but this is based on the collective wisdom of the original
httpd group to ensure that when there are times that folks are generally being
disagreeable, at least the project cannot be frozen solid. I'm glad the Tomcat
project is really working twords similar goals and we don't have any of that
hassle here; but it's good to keep using the same pattern so that even if there
were disagreements in the future, it's possible to keep the project flowing.
Oh - and this isn't the same as releasing vetoed code. If you want to cut a
release, and someone's commit has a veto outstanding, simply tag the version
before the debated code was added. Again not a problem here lately, and that's
a good thing.
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
I know I've said it before, and I know Roy would wig out - but I'm not wigging
out, just trying to educate :) This wasn't a release vote, it was a poll.
It's always good to have a poll ("Should we try a beta now?") - you know that
nobody has something they needed another few days to work on. Or maybe someone
goes ahead and commits some code they had in a checkout, that just needed a bit
more testing first. That's cool :)
But the ASF votes on source code tarballs, we don't vote on trees, or the state
of trees, or the good of having more releases from a particular branch.
Anytime a committer wants, they are absolutely free to tag the tree and tar the
build. But at that moment, it's a 'plain old tarball', it's not a release (even
if there was a vote beforehand like this one.)
Announce the tarball and ask for a release vote. (To avoid confusion, I'd
really encourage the project to create an http://tomcat.apache.org/dev/dist/
location for such things - but those details are entirely up to you all.)
When the *tarball* has 3 +1's, more + than -, it's a release, an honest to
goodness release. If you want to offer folks to vote on alpha/beta/ga that
is ok too. [Acutally, 4.1 is so stable, I wonder if beta makes any sense
anymore, unless some refactoring introduced some new uncertainty.]
I keep rehashing this, because of my role on incubator. If established projects
can't get it right - what hope have we for our podlings who are just learning.
So -do- cut the tarball, but please conduct a vote on the release image,
not on the state of svn. It looks like you have lots of willing folks to vote
on that release :)
Thanks for stepping up to RM this, Mark!
Bill
Mark Thomas wrote:
> Mark Thomas wrote:
> +1's
> Mark Thomas
> Peter Rossbach
> Bill Barker
> Filip Hanik
> Remy Maucherat
> Rainer Jung
>
> +0's
> Yoav Shapira
>
> The release of 4.1.32 beta is therefore approved by the Tomcat PMC.
> I'll cut it this weekend with the announcement going out once it is on
> the mirrors.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
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[RESULT][VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
Mark Thomas wrote:
+1's
Mark Thomas
Peter Rossbach
Bill Barker
Filip Hanik
Remy Maucherat
Rainer Jung
+0's
Yoav Shapira
The release of 4.1.32 beta is therefore approved by the Tomcat PMC.
I'll cut it this weekend with the announcement going out once it is on
the mirrors.
Regards,
Mark
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Fwd: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
Posted by Keith Wannamaker <ke...@apache.org>.
FWIW (mail trouble)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Keith Wannamaker <ke...@apache.org>
Date: Jun 11, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Time for 4.1.32?
To: Tomcat Developers List <de...@tomcat.apache.org>
On 6/10/06, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> [X] +1 I am in favour of a 4.1.32-beta release
[ ] +0 I don't mind
[ ] -1 I am against a 4.1.32-beta release because ...
Keith