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[users@httpd] How to resist user click abuse in apache?

Here is the situation. Heavy db driven site takes about 1-1.5 second
to load some pages. While loading  such page it takes a lot of memory
and cpu. It is not a problem it is used normally, but some users are
very hasty and stupid. When they do not get page within 0.1 seconds
they click the link to the page again, sometimes 5 times a second.

What would be a good way to resist such abuse? 
For example,  allow certain amount of simultaneous connections to
some locations and another number of simultaneous connections for
another location (for example, more connections to the dir where
images are stored).

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Artem

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[users@httpd] RE: [SPAM] - [users@httpd] How to resist user click abuse in apache? - Email found in subject

Posted by jm...@fxdd.com.
Cache the page?

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From: Artem Kuchin [mailto:matrix@itlegion.ru] 
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Here is the situation. Heavy db driven site takes about 1-1.5 second
to load some pages. While loading  such page it takes a lot of memory
and cpu. It is not a problem it is used normally, but some users are
very hasty and stupid. When they do not get page within 0.1 seconds
they click the link to the page again, sometimes 5 times a second.

What would be a good way to resist such abuse? 
For example,  allow certain amount of simultaneous connections to
some locations and another number of simultaneous connections for
another location (for example, more connections to the dir where
images are stored).

--
Artem

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Re: [users@httpd] How to resist user click abuse in apache?

Posted by Christian Folini <ch...@post.ch>.
try mod_qos. It does exactly that.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 01:31:58PM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
> Here is the situation. Heavy db driven site takes about 1-1.5 second
> to load some pages. While loading  such page it takes a lot of memory
> and cpu. It is not a problem it is used normally, but some users are
> very hasty and stupid. When they do not get page within 0.1 seconds
> they click the link to the page again, sometimes 5 times a second.
> 
> What would be a good way to resist such abuse? 
> For example,  allow certain amount of simultaneous connections to
> some locations and another number of simultaneous connections for
> another location (for example, more connections to the dir where
> images are stored).
> 
> --
> Artem
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RE: [users@httpd] How to resist user click abuse in apache?

Posted by Boyle Owen <Ow...@swx.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Artem Kuchin [mailto:matrix@itlegion.ru] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:32 AM
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: [users@httpd] How to resist user click abuse in apache?
> 
> Here is the situation. Heavy db driven site takes about 1-1.5 second
> to load some pages. While loading  such page it takes a lot of memory
> and cpu. It is not a problem it is used normally, but some users are
> very hasty and stupid. When they do not get page within 0.1 seconds
> they click the link to the page again, sometimes 5 times a second.

I wouldn't call those users "hasty and stupid"... I'd call them "normal".

The à la mode solution to this type of thing is to use javascript to play a "loading..." animation and disable the user input - look up dojo, scriptaculous, prototype etc. for toolkits that do this sort of thing.

Rgds,
Owen Boyle
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> What would be a good way to resist such abuse? 
> For example,  allow certain amount of simultaneous connections to
> some locations and another number of simultaneous connections for
> another location (for example, more connections to the dir where
> images are stored).
> 
> --
> Artem
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