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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by George Aroush <ge...@aroush.net> on 2006/04/24 03:09:01 UTC
Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
Hi folks,
Even though I have subscribed to Lucene.Net mailing list, when I submit an
email to "lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org" I am still getting an email
like the one below and it won't appear on the Lucene.Net mailing list until
when I "approve" it. How come?
Regards,
-- George
-----Original Message-----
From:
lucene-net-user-reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
e.org
[mailto:lucene-net-user-reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubat
or.apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:05 PM
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ncubator.apache.org
Subject: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org
To approve:
lucene-net-user-accept-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
e.org
To reject:
lucene-net-user-reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
e.org
To give a reason to reject:
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Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for
lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Garrett Rooney wrote:
> Actually, you generally just want to ignore spam. After a few days
> ezmlm will just remove it from the pending queue. Rejecting it sends
> a reply, which tells the spammer that it's a valid address.
So does a timeout ("sorry, your message has not been acted upon by the
moderator after 10 days"). But it's OK - the From: address of that
response is the -help address, so if a spammer harvests that it's no big
deal. Most spammers use unreplyable From: addresses anyways.
Brian
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Re: Reject or ignore spam?
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
ignore is ok. it will get cleared off the system in 7(?) days.
thanks,
dims
On 4/24/06, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
> Hi George,
>
> From the http://apache.planetmirror.com.au/dev/committers.html:
> I am a moderator and receive these "MODERATE" emails.
>
> First look in the mail and check if it is spam (or other severely
> misguided mail). If it is, then just ignore the mail and it will
> bounce after 5 days, or reply to the -reject address in the mail header.
>
> If you *should* ignore spam for the reason you give below, perhaps
> this section should be edited...
>
> Craig
>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Garrett Rooney wrote:
>
> > On 4/23/06, George Aroush <ge...@aroush.net> wrote:
> >> Hi Brett and all,
> >>
> >> OK, I believe I got it now (at least I tested it and it works.)
> >>
> >> I had to reply to the subscription email and not send an email to the
> >> "accept-" one -- this is to fix my problem of why when I send an
> >> email to
> >> the list I am still getting the "accept-"/"reject-" email.
> >>
> >> For those other emails that I am getting with "accept-"/"reject-"
> >> I have
> >> been reply to them based on their content: spam I'm rejecting,
> >> others I'm
> >> accepting. From now on, I have to send an email to the sender and
> >> ask them
> >> to subscribe if they want to post.
> >
> > Actually, you generally just want to ignore spam. After a few days
> > ezmlm will just remove it from the pending queue. Rejecting it sends
> > a reply, which tells the spammer that it's a valid address.
> >
> > -garrett
> >
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> >
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>
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Reject or ignore spam?
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi George,
From the http://apache.planetmirror.com.au/dev/committers.html:
I am a moderator and receive these "MODERATE" emails.
First look in the mail and check if it is spam (or other severely
misguided mail). If it is, then just ignore the mail and it will
bounce after 5 days, or reply to the -reject address in the mail header.
If you *should* ignore spam for the reason you give below, perhaps
this section should be edited...
Craig
On Apr 23, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Garrett Rooney wrote:
> On 4/23/06, George Aroush <ge...@aroush.net> wrote:
>> Hi Brett and all,
>>
>> OK, I believe I got it now (at least I tested it and it works.)
>>
>> I had to reply to the subscription email and not send an email to the
>> "accept-" one -- this is to fix my problem of why when I send an
>> email to
>> the list I am still getting the "accept-"/"reject-" email.
>>
>> For those other emails that I am getting with "accept-"/"reject-"
>> I have
>> been reply to them based on their content: spam I'm rejecting,
>> others I'm
>> accepting. From now on, I have to send an email to the sender and
>> ask them
>> to subscribe if they want to post.
>
> Actually, you generally just want to ignore spam. After a few days
> ezmlm will just remove it from the pending queue. Rejecting it sends
> a reply, which tells the spammer that it's a valid address.
>
> -garrett
>
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RE: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by George Aroush <ge...@aroush.net>.
After reading http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate I will
now ignore spam emails.
This said, I disagree with you on if I send a reject email it will tell the
spammer that it's a valid address. The fact that the spammer's original
email wasn't rejected by the mail server is an indication to the spammer
that the email address is valid. No?
-- George
-----Original Message-----
From: rooneg@gmail.com [mailto:rooneg@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Garrett Rooney
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:44 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for
lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
On 4/23/06, George Aroush <ge...@aroush.net> wrote:
> Hi Brett and all,
>
> OK, I believe I got it now (at least I tested it and it works.)
>
> I had to reply to the subscription email and not send an email to the
> "accept-" one -- this is to fix my problem of why when I send an email
> to the list I am still getting the "accept-"/"reject-" email.
>
> For those other emails that I am getting with "accept-"/"reject-" I
> have been reply to them based on their content: spam I'm rejecting,
> others I'm accepting. From now on, I have to send an email to the
> sender and ask them to subscribe if they want to post.
Actually, you generally just want to ignore spam. After a few days ezmlm
will just remove it from the pending queue. Rejecting it sends a reply,
which tells the spammer that it's a valid address.
-garrett
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Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net>.
On 4/23/06, George Aroush <ge...@aroush.net> wrote:
> Hi Brett and all,
>
> OK, I believe I got it now (at least I tested it and it works.)
>
> I had to reply to the subscription email and not send an email to the
> "accept-" one -- this is to fix my problem of why when I send an email to
> the list I am still getting the "accept-"/"reject-" email.
>
> For those other emails that I am getting with "accept-"/"reject-" I have
> been reply to them based on their content: spam I'm rejecting, others I'm
> accepting. From now on, I have to send an email to the sender and ask them
> to subscribe if they want to post.
Actually, you generally just want to ignore spam. After a few days
ezmlm will just remove it from the pending queue. Rejecting it sends
a reply, which tells the spammer that it's a valid address.
-garrett
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RE: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by George Aroush <ge...@aroush.net>.
Hi Brett and all,
OK, I believe I got it now (at least I tested it and it works.)
I had to reply to the subscription email and not send an email to the
"accept-" one -- this is to fix my problem of why when I send an email to
the list I am still getting the "accept-"/"reject-" email.
For those other emails that I am getting with "accept-"/"reject-" I have
been reply to them based on their content: spam I'm rejecting, others I'm
accepting. From now on, I have to send an email to the sender and ask them
to subscribe if they want to post.
It's making sense now. Thanks!
-- George
-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Porter [mailto:brett.porter@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:50 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for
lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
It is sent to the moderators. George is a moderator of that list, as
requested at list set up.
George - you'll need to reply to it with the aroush@apache.org email
address.
http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
- Brett
On 4/24/06, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> Aren't those emails supposed to be sent to the moderators of the list,
> not to just anyone subscribed to it?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM [mailto:Craig.Russell@Sun.COM]
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:28 PM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for
> lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
>
> Hi George,
>
> Try "reply all" which sends the message to accept plus approve. One is
> for this single message; the other is a permanent allow.
>
> Craig
>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:09 PM, George Aroush wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Even though I have subscribed to Lucene.Net mailing list, when I
> > submit an email to "lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org" I am still
> > getting an email like the one below and it won't appear on the
> > Lucene.Net mailing list until when I "approve" it. How come?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -- George
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > lucene-net-user-
> > reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> > e.org
> > [mailto:lucene-net-user-
> > reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubat
> > or.apache.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:05 PM
> > To: Recipient list not shown:
> > Cc:
> > lucene-net-user-allow-tc.1145840723.ijpagebdfkdiippacacc-
> > george=aroush.net@i
> > ncubator.apache.org
> > Subject: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org
> >
> > To approve:
> >
> > lucene-net-user-
> > accept-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> > e.org
> > To reject:
> >
> > lucene-net-user-
> > reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> > e.org
> > To give a reason to reject:
> > %%% Start comment
> > %%% End comment
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >
>
>
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RE: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Oh. Oops. I thought he was asking why he started getting those emails
after he subscribed to the list. Sorry.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Porter [mailto:brett.porter@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:50 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for
lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
It is sent to the moderators. George is a moderator of that list, as
requested at list set up.
George - you'll need to reply to it with the aroush@apache.org email
address.
http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
- Brett
On 4/24/06, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> Aren't those emails supposed to be sent to the moderators of the list, not
> to just anyone subscribed to it?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM [mailto:Craig.Russell@Sun.COM]
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:28 PM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for
> lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
>
> Hi George,
>
> Try "reply all" which sends the message to accept plus approve. One
> is for this single message; the other is a permanent allow.
>
> Craig
>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:09 PM, George Aroush wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Even though I have subscribed to Lucene.Net mailing list, when I
> > submit an
> > email to "lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org" I am still getting
> > an email
> > like the one below and it won't appear on the Lucene.Net mailing
> > list until
> > when I "approve" it. How come?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -- George
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > lucene-net-user-
> > reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> > e.org
> > [mailto:lucene-net-user-
> > reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubat
> > or.apache.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:05 PM
> > To: Recipient list not shown:
> > Cc:
> > lucene-net-user-allow-tc.1145840723.ijpagebdfkdiippacacc-
> > george=aroush.net@i
> > ncubator.apache.org
> > Subject: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org
> >
> > To approve:
> >
> > lucene-net-user-
> > accept-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> > e.org
> > To reject:
> >
> > lucene-net-user-
> > reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> > e.org
> > To give a reason to reject:
> > %%% Start comment
> > %%% End comment
> >
> >
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >
>
>
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Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@gmail.com>.
It is sent to the moderators. George is a moderator of that list, as
requested at list set up.
George - you'll need to reply to it with the aroush@apache.org email address.
http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
- Brett
On 4/24/06, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> Aren't those emails supposed to be sent to the moderators of the list, not
> to just anyone subscribed to it?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM [mailto:Craig.Russell@Sun.COM]
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:28 PM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for
> lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
>
> Hi George,
>
> Try "reply all" which sends the message to accept plus approve. One
> is for this single message; the other is a permanent allow.
>
> Craig
>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:09 PM, George Aroush wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Even though I have subscribed to Lucene.Net mailing list, when I
> > submit an
> > email to "lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org" I am still getting
> > an email
> > like the one below and it won't appear on the Lucene.Net mailing
> > list until
> > when I "approve" it. How come?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -- George
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > lucene-net-user-
> > reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> > e.org
> > [mailto:lucene-net-user-
> > reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubat
> > or.apache.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:05 PM
> > To: Recipient list not shown:
> > Cc:
> > lucene-net-user-allow-tc.1145840723.ijpagebdfkdiippacacc-
> > george=aroush.net@i
> > ncubator.apache.org
> > Subject: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org
> >
> > To approve:
> >
> > lucene-net-user-
> > accept-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> > e.org
> > To reject:
> >
> > lucene-net-user-
> > reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> > e.org
> > To give a reason to reject:
> > %%% Start comment
> > %%% End comment
> >
> >
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> >
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RE: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Aren't those emails supposed to be sent to the moderators of the list, not
to just anyone subscribed to it?
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM [mailto:Craig.Russell@Sun.COM]
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:28 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for
lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
Hi George,
Try "reply all" which sends the message to accept plus approve. One
is for this single message; the other is a permanent allow.
Craig
On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:09 PM, George Aroush wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Even though I have subscribed to Lucene.Net mailing list, when I
> submit an
> email to "lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org" I am still getting
> an email
> like the one below and it won't appear on the Lucene.Net mailing
> list until
> when I "approve" it. How come?
>
> Regards,
>
> -- George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> lucene-net-user-
> reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> e.org
> [mailto:lucene-net-user-
> reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubat
> or.apache.org]
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:05 PM
> To: Recipient list not shown:
> Cc:
> lucene-net-user-allow-tc.1145840723.ijpagebdfkdiippacacc-
> george=aroush.net@i
> ncubator.apache.org
> Subject: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org
>
> To approve:
>
> lucene-net-user-
> accept-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> e.org
> To reject:
>
> lucene-net-user-
> reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> e.org
> To give a reason to reject:
> %%% Start comment
> %%% End comment
>
>
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Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for
lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi George,
Try "reply all" which sends the message to accept plus approve. One
is for this single message; the other is a permanent allow.
Craig
On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:09 PM, George Aroush wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Even though I have subscribed to Lucene.Net mailing list, when I
> submit an
> email to "lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org" I am still getting
> an email
> like the one below and it won't appear on the Lucene.Net mailing
> list until
> when I "approve" it. How come?
>
> Regards,
>
> -- George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> lucene-net-user-
> reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> e.org
> [mailto:lucene-net-user-
> reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubat
> or.apache.org]
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:05 PM
> To: Recipient list not shown:
> Cc:
> lucene-net-user-allow-tc.1145840723.ijpagebdfkdiippacacc-
> george=aroush.net@i
> ncubator.apache.org
> Subject: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org
>
> To approve:
>
> lucene-net-user-
> accept-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> e.org
> To reject:
>
> lucene-net-user-
> reject-1145840723.37937.bfgifedpknmhhnmhffcg@incubator.apach
> e.org
> To give a reason to reject:
> %%% Start comment
> %%% End comment
>
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