[Bug 5091] New: Remove certain dirs from release distros, make available in other ways

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           Summary: Remove certain dirs from release distros, make available
                    in other ways
           Product: Spamassassin
           Version: SVN Trunk (Latest Devel Version)
          Platform: Other
        OS/Version: other
            Status: NEW
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P5
         Component: Building & Packaging
        AssignedTo: dev@spamassassin.apache.org
        ReportedBy: felicity@apache.org


This came up on the users@ list, and since I'm partial to my idea I'm making a
ticket for it. ;)   Message below:

To be honest, I'd be more partial to removing tools and contrib (and
masses and ...) from the tarball and make them available separately.
It'd be pretty easy IMO.

I believe that the vast majority of people don't use those directories
for anything, and since those directories don't change much and/or are
only used for development, why make everyone download it?



My possibly totally naive view:

masses -- only used for development, so people can do an svn co.
contrib and tools -- link into SVN since generally speaking each of the files in
those dirs are separate from each other, and/or make wiki pages about the files.



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felicity@apache.org changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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   Target Milestone|Undefined                   |3.2.0






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------- Additional Comments From schulz@adi.com  2006-09-08 13:40 -------
My 2 cents worth.  Those parts of the distribution only account for about
2% of the total size (masses is by far the biggest part).  The whole download
only takes a minute on anything faster than a dial up connection.  You would
only save a few seconds per download.  Not worth the bother.



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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org  2006-11-23 02:16 -------
to be specific, it's contrib, masses, and tools that have been dropped.

1. does anyone run masses from the tarball, who isn't capable of using svn?  I
don't think so, so +1

2. contrib contains:

-contrib/check_spamd
-contrib/mbox-to-check
-contrib/run-corpora
-contrib/run-masses

I'm fine with those being moved, I've never used any of them! ;)  check_spamd is
the only one that might be useful to have in the tarball, or in some
well-defined location.  I suppose we could provide a link to a
http://svn.apache.org/ URL for that.

3. tools contains:

-tools/README.speedtest
-tools/check_whitelist
-tools/convert_awl_dbm_to_sql
-tools/desc_length.pl
-tools/mboxsplit
-tools/sa-stats.pl
-tools/speedtest
-tools/split_corpora
-tools/sysreport
-tools/test_extract

some of those are definitely used by non-SVN users -- maybe we should include
links to their locations in svn.apache.org, prominently, on the website/wiki.

Actually, the "link to svn" idea for those scripts may not be a viable option. 
there's currently strong discussion going on in ASF lists regarding having clear
dividing lines between svn/nightly-snapshot tarballs (for developer use) and
release tarballs (for general use, which are +1'd by PMC).  if we encourage
users to download from svn.apache.org, that may not be viable.

perhaps it'd be ok to encourage downloads from a specific label, which is always
synced to the most recent +1'd release.

4. have you checked for documentation that mentions those scripts in a way that
insinuates they're still in the tarball?



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felicity@apache.org changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED




------- Additional Comments From felicity@apache.org  2006-11-22 20:05 -------
Just ran a test:

The original:
-rw-r--r--  1 felicity fame 1280911 Nov 22 22:34 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.0.tar.gz

The new:
-rw-r--r--  1 felicity fame 1164587 Nov 22 22:52 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.0.tar.gz


or a savings of 115k, ~9% of the original, which makes me happy so I'm
committing it:
Sending        MANIFEST
Sending        MANIFEST.SKIP
Adding         build/parse-rules-for-masses
Deleting       masses/parse-rules-for-masses
Sending        t/meta.t
Transmitting file data ...
Committed revision 478457.




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