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Posted to dev@devicemap.apache.org by "eberhard speer jr." <se...@ducis.net> on 2014/02/25 11:12:50 UTC

FYI

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FYI :

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/02/prweb11608189.htm

esjr
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Re: FYI

Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
Well if what is likely the JS will require calls to the
proprietary/closed/expensive WURFL service crap, they will fail with the
Open "Hacker" community embracing all those JS projects from Node.js to
Angular.js, Vert.X etc. If it was to offer the actual WURFL resources (the
XML file) directly to a server running Node.js, etc. then closing those
files away will fail, either way, jumping the bandwagon (a bit what
Spring/Pivotal keeps doing with every buzzword from Vert.x to BigData) will
further drive WURFL into isolation and irrelevance or make an end to its
closed ecosystem[?]

 Werner


* JavaLand: 26 Mar 2014, Brühl, Germany. Werner Keil, JCP EC Member, JSR
354 EG Member, Apache DeviceMap Committer will present "Apache DeviceMap"
(GE)


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM, eberhard speer jr. <se...@ducis.net>wrote:

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> The fact that the service relies on a js rather than being an open API
> is telling.
> But the idea of integrating DDR API calls and their possible responses
> in a client script is an interesting idea, not that they have taken it
> to that extent.
> I also find it telling the press release and the name of the script
> itself refer to "WURFL".
>
> esjr
>
>
> > Fascinating, guess they must be feeling the pressure by free and
> > transparent alternatives like DeviceMap/OpenDDR
> >
> >> WURFL.js is offered at no cost to anyone who runs publicly
> >> available
> > websites and does not require a fee to access their services or
> > content. No registration is required from webmasters who intend to
> > use >the service to enhance their websites. Of course unlike Java
> > or .NET code where obfuscation and some sort of license could make
> > them hide code and data, with .JS there is little even
> > ScientiaMobile could do to extort Ten Thousands of Euros or
> > Dollars from users dumb enough not to use proper alternatives...
> >
> > Note however, the "WURFL DB" behind it may not be free to use after
> > all, probably just a trick to lure people into expensive
> > subscriptions.
> >
> > Node.js/Angular.js/Vert.x and similar environments could also be a
> > good target environment for DeviceMap...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Werner
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:12 AM, eberhard speer jr.
> > <seshat@ducis.net <ma...@ducis.net>> wrote:
> >
> > FYI :
> >
> > http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/02/prweb11608189.htm
> >
> > esjr
> >
> >
>
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Re: FYI

Posted by "eberhard speer jr." <se...@ducis.net>.
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The fact that the service relies on a js rather than being an open API
is telling.
But the idea of integrating DDR API calls and their possible responses
in a client script is an interesting idea, not that they have taken it
to that extent.
I also find it telling the press release and the name of the script
itself refer to "WURFL".

esjr


> Fascinating, guess they must be feeling the pressure by free and 
> transparent alternatives like DeviceMap/OpenDDR
> 
>> WURFL.js is offered at no cost to anyone who runs publicly
>> available
> websites and does not require a fee to access their services or
> content. No registration is required from webmasters who intend to
> use >the service to enhance their websites. Of course unlike Java
> or .NET code where obfuscation and some sort of license could make
> them hide code and data, with .JS there is little even
> ScientiaMobile could do to extort Ten Thousands of Euros or
> Dollars from users dumb enough not to use proper alternatives...
> 
> Note however, the "WURFL DB" behind it may not be free to use after
> all, probably just a trick to lure people into expensive
> subscriptions.
> 
> Node.js/Angular.js/Vert.x and similar environments could also be a
> good target environment for DeviceMap...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Werner
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:12 AM, eberhard speer jr.
> <seshat@ducis.net <ma...@ducis.net>> wrote:
> 
> FYI :
> 
> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/02/prweb11608189.htm
> 
> esjr
> 
> 

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Re: FYI

Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
Fascinating, guess they must be feeling the pressure by free and
transparent alternatives like DeviceMap/OpenDDR[?]

>WURFL.js is offered at no cost to anyone who runs publicly available
websites and does not require a fee to access their services or content. No
registration is required from webmasters who intend to use >the service to
enhance their websites.
Of course unlike Java or .NET code where obfuscation and some sort of
license could make them hide code and data, with .JS there is little even
ScientiaMobile could do to extort Ten Thousands of Euros or Dollars from
users dumb enough not to use proper alternatives...

Note however, the "WURFL DB" behind it may not be free to use after all,
probably just a trick to lure people into expensive subscriptions.

Node.js/Angular.js/Vert.x and similar environments could also be a good
target environment for DeviceMap...

 Thanks,

Werner

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:12 AM, eberhard speer jr. <se...@ducis.net>wrote:

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>
> esjr
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