Re: follow up handler problem

[tser <te...@worldonline.nl>]

i l(ove)(ife) to be ignored :o)

*sits relaxed in corner of the mailing list*
*puts hands in the air*
"may i have for 2 seconds your attention"?
(hears mumble of shaking heads in the background)
No ?-)
*turns around*
*talks to the wall* "hi wall!"

"When some (dummy, mostly, somebody like reinder), user makes a handler
misconfiguration inside his httpd.conf, should he

a) Be blamed, by not getting any errors in his error log, just because a
file, similair to the requested locationn exist, or
b) Be warned about his foolishness, by both giving the surfing user a
(any number) error, and a bravely report that he might have a typo
c) Be Warned that the Handler Doesn't exist, and a file, similair to the
similair to the requested location doesn't exist neither.



*stares to the wall*  "a and c are the current situation,wall"

			*writes in the ground* "Hello, WorldWideWall "
								- Reinder.





tser wrote:
> 
> If' seen a lot of similair Reports as i encountered with the dual
> warning/error about handlers in the bug database.
> 
> with either warnings about missing files after a wrong handler, or files
> still shown after a fake missing handler, or abusivly reports the
> handler isn't there
> 
> 2751 general  open     Handler problem false, should not be logged.
> 3349 general  open     spurious "handler xxx not found" messages
> 4090 general  open     Handler checkup generates warnings with mod_jserv
> and possibly others
> 
> these might be related :
> 3436 general  open     Continuous handler XXXX not found messages
> 2584 mod_acti analyzed Seeing alot of these: "handler "cgi-wrapper" not
> found for" since upgrading
> 3548 mod_acti open     Seeing a lot of "handler "cgi-wrapper" not found
> for:" Same as PR2584
> 
> To fall Back on my previous message
> 
> 1) Should Apache when it doesn't find the handler, Stop processing the
> request and report a 404 error ?
> 2) Should Apacke place a warning in the errorlog if the hanlder failes,
> but the file deliviry succeeds ?

Re: follow up handler problem

[Ben Laurie <be...@algroup.co.uk>]

tser wrote:
> 
> i l(ove)(ife) to be ignored :o)
> 
> *sits relaxed in corner of the mailing list*
> *puts hands in the air*
> "may i have for 2 seconds your attention"?
> (hears mumble of shaking heads in the background)
> No ?-)
> *turns around*
> *talks to the wall* "hi wall!"
> 
> "When some (dummy, mostly, somebody like reinder), user makes a handler
> misconfiguration inside his httpd.conf, should he
> 
> a) Be blamed, by not getting any errors in his error log, just because a
> file, similair to the requested locationn exist, or
> b) Be warned about his foolishness, by both giving the surfing user a
> (any number) error, and a bravely report that he might have a typo
> c) Be Warned that the Handler Doesn't exist, and a file, similair to the
> similair to the requested location doesn't exist neither.
> 
> *stares to the wall*  "a and c are the current situation,wall"
> 
>                         *writes in the ground* "Hello, WorldWideWall "
>                                                                 - Reinder.

Hmm. Well, I'm not going to ingore you, but I can't say I understand you
either. I will note, though, that when I use mod_perl, and have _all_ my
Perl done as an Action, then I get a warning about the handler for Perl
not being found, with great regularity. One of these days I'll get
around to finding out why, and then I may understand what you are
saying.

Cheers,

Ben.

> 
> tser wrote:
> >
> > If' seen a lot of similair Reports as i encountered with the dual
> > warning/error about handlers in the bug database.
> >
> > with either warnings about missing files after a wrong handler, or files
> > still shown after a fake missing handler, or abusivly reports the
> > handler isn't there
> >
> > 2751 general  open     Handler problem false, should not be logged.
> > 3349 general  open     spurious "handler xxx not found" messages
> > 4090 general  open     Handler checkup generates warnings with mod_jserv
> > and possibly others
> >
> > these might be related :
> > 3436 general  open     Continuous handler XXXX not found messages
> > 2584 mod_acti analyzed Seeing alot of these: "handler "cgi-wrapper" not
> > found for" since upgrading
> > 3548 mod_acti open     Seeing a lot of "handler "cgi-wrapper" not found
> > for:" Same as PR2584
> >
> > To fall Back on my previous message
> >
> > 1) Should Apache when it doesn't find the handler, Stop processing the
> > request and report a 404 error ?
> > 2) Should Apacke place a warning in the errorlog if the hanlder failes,
> > but the file deliviry succeeds ?

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