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[jira] Created: (LEGAL-88) Options for prohibited works

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                 Key: LEGAL-88
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-88
             Project: Legal Discuss
          Issue Type: Question
            Reporter: Sebb


The previous (proposed) 3rd party policy [1] had some guidance on how to deal with dependencies on prohibited works - e.g. LGPL
This info. has not found its way into the Legal Previously Asked Questions page [2].

So what is the position?

[1] http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#options
[2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html

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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-88) Options for prohibited works

Posted by "Sebb (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-88?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13000694#comment-13000694 ] 

Sebb commented on LEGAL-88:
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There are two different LGPL libraries [1] [2] that have been suggested for use with JMeter.

These would be used for optional functionality.

It should be easy enough to ensure that JMeter runs OK if the libraries are not present at run-time (we used to have to do this with JavaMail).
Likewise, excluding the dependent source files from builds should not be too difficult.

However, ideally we would like to release JMeter with all the source code compiled, which would mean the RM at least would need to download the jars.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50842
[2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-dev/201102.mbox/%3C4D6C1398.3070205@apache.org%3E

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>                 Key: LEGAL-88
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-88
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Sebb
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> The previous (proposed) 3rd party policy [1] had some guidance on how to deal with dependencies on prohibited works - e.g. LGPL
> This info. has not found its way into the Legal Previously Asked Questions page [2].
> So what is the position?
> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#options
> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html

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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-88) Options for prohibited works

Posted by "Ralph Goers (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Ralph Goers commented on LEGAL-88:
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This seems either highly related to or a duplicate of LEGAL-54. That issue seems like it has agreement but hasn't been resolved.

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>                 Key: LEGAL-88
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-88
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Sebb
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> The previous (proposed) 3rd party policy [1] had some guidance on how to deal with dependencies on prohibited works - e.g. LGPL
> This info. has not found its way into the Legal Previously Asked Questions page [2].
> So what is the position?
> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#options
> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html

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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-88) Options for prohibited works

Posted by "Sam Ruby (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sam Ruby commented on LEGAL-88:
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Is this a hypothetical question?

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>                 Key: LEGAL-88
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-88
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Sebb
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> The previous (proposed) 3rd party policy [1] had some guidance on how to deal with dependencies on prohibited works - e.g. LGPL
> This info. has not found its way into the Legal Previously Asked Questions page [2].
> So what is the position?
> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#options
> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html

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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-88) Options for prohibited works

Posted by "Sebb (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sebb commented on LEGAL-88:
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On looking at this again, I don't think LEGAL-54 covers everything.

The specific issue that was covered in the original 3rd party page is bridge code [1].

This does not sem to be covered by the current "resolved" page.
[Or if it is covered, it's not obvious what the rules are]

[1] http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#options-inproduct-may1
                
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>
>                 Key: LEGAL-88
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-88
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Sebb
>
> The previous (proposed) 3rd party policy [1] had some guidance on how to deal with dependencies on prohibited works - e.g. LGPL
> This info. has not found its way into the Legal Previously Asked Questions page [2].
> So what is the position?
> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#options
> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html

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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-88) Options for prohibited works

Posted by "Sam Ruby (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sam Ruby commented on LEGAL-88:
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> This seems either highly related to or a duplicate of LEGAL-54. 

Good.

> That issue seems like it has agreement

Agreed.

>  but  hasn't been resolved. 

I guess it is awaiting somebody to commit the patch.

I'd like Legal Affairs to be run to the extent possible like a PMC; i.e. to treat the website as a product and to accept bug reports on it and to have committers do the work based on consensus.  The VP is merely another participant but does have the additional responsibility to send boring reports to the board.

I miss Henri's participation here.

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>
>                 Key: LEGAL-88
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-88
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Sebb
>
> The previous (proposed) 3rd party policy [1] had some guidance on how to deal with dependencies on prohibited works - e.g. LGPL
> This info. has not found its way into the Legal Previously Asked Questions page [2].
> So what is the position?
> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#options
> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html

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