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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Gorkem Ercan <go...@gmail.com> on 2014/07/18 18:05:58 UTC
Re: [Discuss] The Future of Ripple as a Top Level ASF Project
Did this discussion concluded? What was the conclusion?
I would like to see Ripple to have a healthy future and if having it as a
sub-project on Cordova ensures it, I would like to help with that.
I think we can have one or two people from Red Hat assisting on the
maintenance of Ripple. This probably is not enough for a
top-level project but may be enough to continue as a sub-project.
Also, I know there are tools (folks from MSFT, I am looking at you) that
use ripple, they may also be ultimately interested on the well being
of the project.
--
Gorkem
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Brent Lintner <br...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> Since becoming an incubator project (being donated graciously by
> BlackBerry), Ripple has seen positive contributions.
>
> However, it is also apparent that the community does not seem large enough
> to sustain a project like this as a top level project (let alone an
> individual PMC).
>
> Three of the original contributors/creators of Ripple are now fully
> involved in a new technology startup in an unrelated field and therefore we
> no longer have the resources to support Ripple in ASF. Also, BlackBerry has
> given no resources to help since donating Ripple to the ASF (this might be
> due to a change in their internal priorities).
>
> Given this, I would like to propose:
>
> 1. We find more community members willing to lead committership of the
> project, and see how that goes.
>
> 2. We also consider the eventuality of folding Ripple into another ASF
> project, if possible. If so, it would seem Cordova is a candidate for this,
> especially given the project being one of Ripple's main focus and support.
> If the community votes for this, we should involve the Cordova community to
> gage their interests as well (I've CC'd their mailing list in this email).
>
> 3. If the above does not work out, I would then suggest we consider the
> most unfortunate (put perhaps prudent) eventuality, which is to "fail"
> Ripple as an incubator project. "fail" is this case, not being negative.
>
> And, if it does fail incubation- what does ASF normally do with the
> project?
>
> Does it get donated back to the original party? Does it get moved to an
> open source project outside of ASF (under a different license)?
>
> Any insight would be appreciated!
>
> --
> Brent Lintner
>
RE: [Discuss] The Future of Ripple as a Top Level ASF Project
Posted by "Sergey Grebnov (Akvelon)" <v-...@microsoft.com>.
The code is available at
https://github.com/MSOpenTech/cordova-ripple
https://github.com/MSOpenTech/cordova-lib/commits/platform-ripple
Example plugin
https://github.com/MSOpenTech/cordova-plugin-camera/tree/platform-ripple
Set-up Instructions:
1. Get repositories:
git clone https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli.git
git clone https://github.com/MSOpenTech/cordova-ripple.git
git clone -b platform-ripple https://github.com/MSOpenTech/cordova-lib.git
git clone -b platform-ripple https://github.com/MSOpenTech/cordova-plugin-camera.git
2. Install cordova from git repos.
Notes:
a. mklink command require administrative privileges,
b. on Mac OS mklink command should be replaced with ln -s
mkdir cordova-cli/node_modules
cd cordova-cli/node_modules && mklink /d cordova-lib ../../cordova-lib/cordova-lib
cd .. && npm install
cd ../cordova-lib/cordova-lib && npm install
3. Create and run app.
cd ../.. && cordova-cli/bin/cordova create rippleApp
cd rippleApp
../cordova-cli/bin/cordova platform add ../cordova-ripple
../cordova-cli/bin/cordova plugin add ../cordova-plugin-camera
../cordova-cli/bin/cordova run
Thx!
Sergey
-----Original Message-----
From: venkata kiran surapaneni [mailto:svkirans@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:13 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss] The Future of Ripple as a Top Level ASF Project
Hi Parashuram,
I use Cordova and Ripple regularly and I am interested in checking out the prototypes. Where are they available ?
Thanks,
--Kiran
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) < panarasi@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Hi Gorkem,
>
> We have produced a couple of prototypes to show how Ripple can be used
> as a platform. We have been able to delegate most of the plugin
> specific functionality to the plugin itself, that includes a <platform
> ripple> tag in its plugin.xml.
> We are definitely interested in supporting Ripple and do not have a
> preference about it becoming a Cordova sub project, or staying a top
> level project.
>
> Would love to hear your feedback on this prototype, and any
> suggestions that you may have on taking this forward.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gorkem Ercan [mailto:gorkem.ercan@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:06 AM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] The Future of Ripple as a Top Level ASF Project
>
> Did this discussion concluded? What was the conclusion?
>
> I would like to see Ripple to have a healthy future and if having it
> as a sub-project on Cordova ensures it, I would like to help with that.
> I think we can have one or two people from Red Hat assisting on the
> maintenance of Ripple. This probably is not enough for a top-level
> project but may be enough to continue as a sub-project.
>
> Also, I know there are tools (folks from MSFT, I am looking at you)
> that use ripple, they may also be ultimately interested on the well
> being of the project.
> --
> Gorkem
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Brent Lintner
> <br...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey All,
> >
> > Since becoming an incubator project (being donated graciously by
> > BlackBerry), Ripple has seen positive contributions.
> >
> > However, it is also apparent that the community does not seem large
> > enough to sustain a project like this as a top level project (let
> > alone an individual PMC).
> >
> > Three of the original contributors/creators of Ripple are now fully
> > involved in a new technology startup in an unrelated field and
> > therefore we no longer have the resources to support Ripple in ASF.
> > Also, BlackBerry has given no resources to help since donating
> > Ripple to the ASF (this might be due to a change in their internal priorities).
> >
> > Given this, I would like to propose:
> >
> > 1. We find more community members willing to lead committership of
> > the project, and see how that goes.
> >
> > 2. We also consider the eventuality of folding Ripple into another
> > ASF project, if possible. If so, it would seem Cordova is a
> > candidate for this, especially given the project being one of
> > Ripple's main focus and
> support.
> > If the community votes for this, we should involve the Cordova
> > community to gage their interests as well (I've CC'd their mailing
> > list
> in this email).
> >
> > 3. If the above does not work out, I would then suggest we consider
> > the most unfortunate (put perhaps prudent) eventuality, which is to
> "fail"
> > Ripple as an incubator project. "fail" is this case, not being negative.
> >
> > And, if it does fail incubation- what does ASF normally do with the
> > project?
> >
> > Does it get donated back to the original party? Does it get moved to
> > an open source project outside of ASF (under a different license)?
> >
> > Any insight would be appreciated!
> >
> > --
> > Brent Lintner
> >
>
--
Thanks & Regards,
-Kiran
Re: [Discuss] The Future of Ripple as a Top Level ASF Project
Posted by venkata kiran surapaneni <sv...@gmail.com>.
Hi Parashuram,
I use Cordova and Ripple regularly and I am interested in checking out the
prototypes. Where are they available ?
Thanks,
--Kiran
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) <
panarasi@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Hi Gorkem,
>
> We have produced a couple of prototypes to show how Ripple can be used as
> a platform. We have been able to delegate most of the plugin specific
> functionality to the plugin itself, that includes a <platform ripple> tag
> in its plugin.xml.
> We are definitely interested in supporting Ripple and do not have a
> preference about it becoming a Cordova sub project, or staying a top level
> project.
>
> Would love to hear your feedback on this prototype, and any suggestions
> that you may have on taking this forward.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gorkem Ercan [mailto:gorkem.ercan@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:06 AM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] The Future of Ripple as a Top Level ASF Project
>
> Did this discussion concluded? What was the conclusion?
>
> I would like to see Ripple to have a healthy future and if having it as a
> sub-project on Cordova ensures it, I would like to help with that.
> I think we can have one or two people from Red Hat assisting on the
> maintenance of Ripple. This probably is not enough for a top-level project
> but may be enough to continue as a sub-project.
>
> Also, I know there are tools (folks from MSFT, I am looking at you) that
> use ripple, they may also be ultimately interested on the well being of the
> project.
> --
> Gorkem
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Brent Lintner <br...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey All,
> >
> > Since becoming an incubator project (being donated graciously by
> > BlackBerry), Ripple has seen positive contributions.
> >
> > However, it is also apparent that the community does not seem large
> > enough to sustain a project like this as a top level project (let
> > alone an individual PMC).
> >
> > Three of the original contributors/creators of Ripple are now fully
> > involved in a new technology startup in an unrelated field and
> > therefore we no longer have the resources to support Ripple in ASF.
> > Also, BlackBerry has given no resources to help since donating Ripple
> > to the ASF (this might be due to a change in their internal priorities).
> >
> > Given this, I would like to propose:
> >
> > 1. We find more community members willing to lead committership of the
> > project, and see how that goes.
> >
> > 2. We also consider the eventuality of folding Ripple into another ASF
> > project, if possible. If so, it would seem Cordova is a candidate for
> > this, especially given the project being one of Ripple's main focus and
> support.
> > If the community votes for this, we should involve the Cordova
> > community to gage their interests as well (I've CC'd their mailing list
> in this email).
> >
> > 3. If the above does not work out, I would then suggest we consider
> > the most unfortunate (put perhaps prudent) eventuality, which is to
> "fail"
> > Ripple as an incubator project. "fail" is this case, not being negative.
> >
> > And, if it does fail incubation- what does ASF normally do with the
> > project?
> >
> > Does it get donated back to the original party? Does it get moved to
> > an open source project outside of ASF (under a different license)?
> >
> > Any insight would be appreciated!
> >
> > --
> > Brent Lintner
> >
>
--
Thanks & Regards,
-Kiran
RE: [Discuss] The Future of Ripple as a Top Level ASF Project
Posted by "Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH)" <pa...@microsoft.com>.
Hi Gorkem,
We have produced a couple of prototypes to show how Ripple can be used as a platform. We have been able to delegate most of the plugin specific functionality to the plugin itself, that includes a <platform ripple> tag in its plugin.xml.
We are definitely interested in supporting Ripple and do not have a preference about it becoming a Cordova sub project, or staying a top level project.
Would love to hear your feedback on this prototype, and any suggestions that you may have on taking this forward.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gorkem Ercan [mailto:gorkem.ercan@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:06 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss] The Future of Ripple as a Top Level ASF Project
Did this discussion concluded? What was the conclusion?
I would like to see Ripple to have a healthy future and if having it as a sub-project on Cordova ensures it, I would like to help with that.
I think we can have one or two people from Red Hat assisting on the maintenance of Ripple. This probably is not enough for a top-level project but may be enough to continue as a sub-project.
Also, I know there are tools (folks from MSFT, I am looking at you) that use ripple, they may also be ultimately interested on the well being of the project.
--
Gorkem
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Brent Lintner <br...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> Since becoming an incubator project (being donated graciously by
> BlackBerry), Ripple has seen positive contributions.
>
> However, it is also apparent that the community does not seem large
> enough to sustain a project like this as a top level project (let
> alone an individual PMC).
>
> Three of the original contributors/creators of Ripple are now fully
> involved in a new technology startup in an unrelated field and
> therefore we no longer have the resources to support Ripple in ASF.
> Also, BlackBerry has given no resources to help since donating Ripple
> to the ASF (this might be due to a change in their internal priorities).
>
> Given this, I would like to propose:
>
> 1. We find more community members willing to lead committership of the
> project, and see how that goes.
>
> 2. We also consider the eventuality of folding Ripple into another ASF
> project, if possible. If so, it would seem Cordova is a candidate for
> this, especially given the project being one of Ripple's main focus and support.
> If the community votes for this, we should involve the Cordova
> community to gage their interests as well (I've CC'd their mailing list in this email).
>
> 3. If the above does not work out, I would then suggest we consider
> the most unfortunate (put perhaps prudent) eventuality, which is to "fail"
> Ripple as an incubator project. "fail" is this case, not being negative.
>
> And, if it does fail incubation- what does ASF normally do with the
> project?
>
> Does it get donated back to the original party? Does it get moved to
> an open source project outside of ASF (under a different license)?
>
> Any insight would be appreciated!
>
> --
> Brent Lintner
>