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New design of download page

I was on vacation and missed this before.  It looks like the design of
the download page was changed.   I just wanted to say this looks very
nice, very clean and professional!

Is there anything we can do to update the home page in a similar way?
The scroll bars, IMHO, doesn't look good.  It looks like something
from GeoCities circa 1995.  It is not a great "first impression".

For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
the main content in the center?

-Rob

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Re: New design of download page

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 06/27/2014 01:14 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>> Am 06/27/2014 12:50 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>
>>>>> I was on vacation and missed this before.  It looks like the design of
>>>>> the download page was changed.   I just wanted to say this looks very
>>>>> nice, very clean and professional!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks, it seems a 2-month-project paid off.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Is there anything we can do to update the home page in a similar way?
>>>>> The scroll bars, IMHO, doesn't look good.  It looks like something
>>>>> from GeoCities circa 1995.  It is not a great "first impression".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To be honest, I don't think that it is that bad. OK, except the right
>>>> column
>>>> for the news texts. But of course a refresh would be good anyway.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What screen resolution are you viewing it with?
>>
>>
>> At the moment it's just 1280x1024. But with other hardware and
>> browsershots.org I can test on larger screens. I know it's not up-to-date
>> but ...
>>
>
> Here are the top 10 resolutions for visitors, according to Google Analytics:
>
> 1366x768 26.29%
> 1920x1080 13.00%
> 1280x800 8.43%
> 1280x1024 7.92%
> 1600x900 7.16%
> 1440x900 6.72%
> 1024x768 6.07%
> 1680x1050 4.53%
> 1920x1200 1.83%
> 1024x600 1.53%
>
> The top choices appear now to be wide-screen, especially 16:9 aspect
> ratio.  I'm at 1440x900 on my Thinkpad, which is why I'm seeing so
> much empty space on the home page.  Empty space combined with scroll
> bars.

Me, too, when looking at the webpage from my monitor at work. But so 
many other webpages have the same "behaviour", so it's kind of normal 
today to waste space to satisfy as many screens as possible. ;-(

> I wish I was better with HTML/CSS and could help :-(

Come on, nobody can do everything. And you can (and have already) help 
with so many other things.

Marcus



>>>>> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
>>>>> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
>>>>> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
>>>>> the main content in the center?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website
>>>> and
>>>> then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was working
>>>> good.

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Re: New design of download page

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 06/27/2014 12:50 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
>>>> I was on vacation and missed this before.  It looks like the design of
>>>> the download page was changed.   I just wanted to say this looks very
>>>> nice, very clean and professional!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks, it seems a 2-month-project paid off.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is there anything we can do to update the home page in a similar way?
>>>> The scroll bars, IMHO, doesn't look good.  It looks like something
>>>> from GeoCities circa 1995.  It is not a great "first impression".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To be honest, I don't think that it is that bad. OK, except the right
>>> column
>>> for the news texts. But of course a refresh would be good anyway.
>>>
>>
>> What screen resolution are you viewing it with?
>
>
> At the moment it's just 1280x1024. But with other hardware and
> browsershots.org I can test on larger screens. I know it's not up-to-date
> but ...
>

Here are the top 10 resolutions for visitors, according to Google Analytics:

1366x768 26.29%
1920x1080 13.00%
1280x800 8.43%
1280x1024 7.92%
1600x900 7.16%
1440x900 6.72%
1024x768 6.07%
1680x1050 4.53%
1920x1200 1.83%
1024x600 1.53%

The top choices appear now to be wide-screen, especially 16:9 aspect
ratio.  I'm at 1440x900 on my Thinkpad, which is why I'm seeing so
much empty space on the home page.  Empty space combined with scroll
bars.

I wish I was better with HTML/CSS and could help :-(

-Rob


> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>>>> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
>>>> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
>>>> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
>>>> the main content in the center?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website
>>> and
>>> then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was working
>>> good.
>
>
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Re: New design of download page

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 06/27/2014 12:50 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>> Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>
>>> I was on vacation and missed this before.  It looks like the design of
>>> the download page was changed.   I just wanted to say this looks very
>>> nice, very clean and professional!
>>
>>
>> thanks, it seems a 2-month-project paid off.
>>
>>
>>> Is there anything we can do to update the home page in a similar way?
>>> The scroll bars, IMHO, doesn't look good.  It looks like something
>>> from GeoCities circa 1995.  It is not a great "first impression".
>>
>>
>> To be honest, I don't think that it is that bad. OK, except the right column
>> for the news texts. But of course a refresh would be good anyway.
>>
>
> What screen resolution are you viewing it with?

At the moment it's just 1280x1024. But with other hardware and 
browsershots.org I can test on larger screens. I know it's not 
up-to-date but ...

Marcus



>>> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
>>> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
>>> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
>>> the main content in the center?
>>
>>
>> We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website and
>> then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was working good.

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Re: New design of download page

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> I was on vacation and missed this before.  It looks like the design of
>> the download page was changed.   I just wanted to say this looks very
>> nice, very clean and professional!
>
>
> thanks, it seems a 2-month-project paid off.
>
>
>> Is there anything we can do to update the home page in a similar way?
>> The scroll bars, IMHO, doesn't look good.  It looks like something
>> from GeoCities circa 1995.  It is not a great "first impression".
>
>
> To be honest, I don't think that it is that bad. OK, except the right column
> for the news texts. But of course a refresh would be good anyway.
>

What screen resolution are you viewing it with?

-Rob

>
>> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
>> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
>> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
>> the main content in the center?
>
>
> We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website and
> then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was working good.
>
> Marcus
>
>
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Re: New design of download page

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 26, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

> Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> I was on vacation and missed this before.  It looks like the design of
>> the download page was changed.   I just wanted to say this looks very
>> nice, very clean and professional!
> 
> thanks, it seems a 2-month-project paid off.

Yes! This is quite well done! A big thanks from me to you for your effort. I'll leave other commentary about flaws alone and celebrate your results!

It feels great to leave for months, come back and see awesome improvements like this and the language pop-up!

Regards,
Dave

> 
>> Is there anything we can do to update the home page in a similar way?
>> The scroll bars, IMHO, doesn't look good.  It looks like something
>> from GeoCities circa 1995.  It is not a great "first impression".
> 
> To be honest, I don't think that it is that bad. OK, except the right column for the news texts. But of course a refresh would be good anyway.
> 
>> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
>> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
>> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
>> the main content in the center?
> 
> We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website and then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was working good.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
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Re: New design of download page

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.

On 06/26/2014 12:07 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> I was on vacation and missed this before.  It looks like the design of
>> the download page was changed.   I just wanted to say this looks very
>> nice, very clean and professional!
> 
> thanks, it seems a 2-month-project paid off.
> 
>> Is there anything we can do to update the home page in a similar way?
>> The scroll bars, IMHO, doesn't look good.  It looks like something
>> from GeoCities circa 1995.  It is not a great "first impression".
> 
> To be honest, I don't think that it is that bad. OK, except the right
> column for the news texts. But of course a refresh would be good anyway.

I also think the normal style scroll elements, and also the drop down
arrow for the new language selection don't look too good with our nice
mostly blue color scheme. It would be better to find an alternative for
these. This being said, when I looked into this a year or so ago,
nothing relatively simple emerged. But...maybe things have changed.

> 
>> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
>> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
>> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
>> the main content in the center?
> 
> We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website
> and then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was working
> good.

Yes, definitely.

Also, I love the idea of the new language selection as well, but now
wonder if we could move placement of the search under this new option
instead of the horizontal placement that is now occurring.

We have some good functionality now, but basically need to work on styling.

> 
> Marcus
> 
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Re: New design of download page

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Emanuele <em...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> > Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >
> >> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
> >> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
> >> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
> >> the main content in the center?
> >
> > We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website
> > and then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was
> > working good.
>
> I'm not at all a designer, I just had few minutes of free time and I
> decided to play a bit with the page:
>
> http://www.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/
>
> Okay, is rather different from the current layout but is also a bit
> responsive (just to please everybody :P).
> I didn't spend much time on the colors and alignment of elements, just
> on the general layout of the page.
>
> emanuele
>

This is really very nice! I like it...very fresh! We'll see what others
think, but the approach is very good.


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Re: New design of download page

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 06/30/2014 04:22 PM, schrieb Emanuele:
> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>
>>> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
>>> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
>>> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
>>> the main content in the center?
>>
>> We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website
>> and then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was
>> working good.
>
> I'm not at all a designer, I just had few minutes of free time and I
> decided to play a bit with the page:
>
> http://www.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/

that looks very good:

- The carousel is something that we really need.
- The drop-down menu item "Product" is a good idea to save some space.
- The 3-column-design is not too wide.
   With shortening the text it can look even better.

PS:
Please note that there is a difference between the page above the news 
carousel and the other part. From the technical part we have to make a 
difference how to update both parts in general.

> Okay, is rather different from the current layout but is also a bit
> responsive (just to please everybody :P).
> I didn't spend much time on the colors and alignment of elements, just
> on the general layout of the page.

That's OK. We can see perfectly what you try to express.

And it looks like if you want to do more and volunteer to do this little 
refresh. Am I guessing right? ;-)

Marcus


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Re: New design of download page

Posted by Emanuele <em...@gmail.com>.
Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
>> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
>> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
>> the main content in the center?
>
> We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website
> and then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was
> working good.

I'm not at all a designer, I just had few minutes of free time and I
decided to play a bit with the page:

http://www.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/

Okay, is rather different from the current layout but is also a bit
responsive (just to please everybody :P).
I didn't spend much time on the colors and alignment of elements, just
on the general layout of the page.

emanuele

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Re: New design of download page

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 06/26/2014 06:23 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> I was on vacation and missed this before.  It looks like the design of
> the download page was changed.   I just wanted to say this looks very
> nice, very clean and professional!

thanks, it seems a 2-month-project paid off.

> Is there anything we can do to update the home page in a similar way?
> The scroll bars, IMHO, doesn't look good.  It looks like something
> from GeoCities circa 1995.  It is not a great "first impression".

To be honest, I don't think that it is that bad. OK, except the right 
column for the news texts. But of course a refresh would be good anyway.

> For example, if we are worried about the length of text on the right,
> then maybe can can have a three column design, rather than a two
> column design?  Put announcements on left, blog posts on right, and
> the main content in the center?

We should gather a few ideas, do a little research about other website 
and then build a demo-webpage. For the download webpage this was working 
good.

Marcus


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