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Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Hallo.

I am encountering a strange behavior with OpenOffice 4 and the attached 
xls file.
If I open it with OpenOffice 4 it does not show the cell values ​​but if 
I open it with OpenOffice 3 or MS Excel it does show the values correctly.
If I select the same file by browsing the folder from "File - Open" menu 
of OO4 I can see in the preview the values but when I open it the values 
are not shown.
If I open the file with Excel and save another copy without making any 
change, that copy is correctly opened with values with OO 4.
The xls file is created by a program that extracts values from an ERP 
systems.

Any idea about how to solve the problem?

Thank you.


Ing. Francesco Ziviani
Sales Manager

Tel. +39 348 4109172
Fax. +39 045 21090140
E-mail francesco.ziviani@surftech.it

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Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Posted by Tony Gallas <to...@spin.net.au>.
G'day!
I am using AOO 4.1.0 on a Windows 8.1 computer. I loaded your .xls 
spreadsheet into Calc and the values transfer correctly. Perhaps your 
problem is caused by something in the extraction process.
Good luck
Tony

On 20/06/2014 1:21 AM, Francesco.Ziviani@surftech.it wrote:
> Hallo.
>
> I am encountering a strange behavior with OpenOffice 4 and the 
> attached xls file.
> If I open it with OpenOffice 4 it does not show the cell values but if 
> I open it with OpenOffice 3 or MS Excel it does show the values 
> correctly.
> If I select the same file by browsing the folder from "File - Open" 
> menu of OO4 I can see in the preview the values but when I open it the 
> values are not shown.
> If I open the file with Excel and save another copy without making any 
> change, that copy is correctly opened with values with OO 4.
> The xls file is created by a program that extracts values from an ERP 
> systems.
>
> Any idea about how to solve the problem?
>
> Thank you.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Ing. Francesco Ziviani*
> Sales Manager
>
> Tel. +39 348 4109172
> Fax. +39 045 21090140
> E-mail francesco.ziviani@surftech.it
>
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> www.surftech.it
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Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Posted by johnny smith <ka...@krovatka.su>.
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 07:25:12 -0000, <Fr...@surftech.it> wrote:

> o Do the column headers appear?
> No value is displayed but I see some cells with gray background on the
> second row of the worksheet (not on the first row as it should be). But,
> the column H does not have this gray cell.
>
> o Do the grey and yellow background colours appear?
> No cell with yellow backgound. Some cells with gray backgound on the
> second row as written above
>
> o If you select a cell that should show a value, what do you see in the
> Input Line?
> Nothing is displayed in the Input line, the cells looks empty.
>
> o If you double-click a cell (or press F2), can you the select hidden text
> within the cell by dragging the cursor?
> No, the cell look empty
>
> o I notice that the font colour is (generally) set to Black; what happens
> if you change it to Automatic?
> I tried to change the color to Automatic buy nothing is displayed yet
>
> o What happens if you select the sheet and change the font? Or change the
> font size to something smaller?
> I have tried different options for font and size but nothing is displayed.

you may have customise openoffice's settings in some unusual way which causes the problem. try resetting all the settings to defaults by renaming your user profile. to detect the profile, open 'tools - options - openoffice - paths'. the profile is the '...\openoffice\4\user' folder where autocorrect, autotext, backups, gallery and graphics reside.

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Rif: Re: Rif: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Posted by Fr...@surftech.it.
Hallo.

I have tried to send again the screenshot inside an attachment instead of 
in the body of the email.
See below the answers to your questions.


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Da:     Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>
Per:    users@openoffice.apache.org
Data:   20/06/2014 09:10
Oggetto:        Re: Rif: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4



At 08:23 20/06/2014 +0200, Francesco Ziviani wrote:
>I have installed OpenOffice 4.1.0 but the problem still exists.
>I attach some screenshots of what happens. As you can see ...

Sorry, but your screenshots were not distributed, so no-one will have 
been able to see, I think.

At 08:36 20/06/2014 +0200, Francesco Ziviani wrote:
>The screenshots were not displayed in my previous email. I send them 
>again inside a Draw attachment.

Still nothing received.

I've been thinking more about this.
o Do the column headers appear?
No value is displayed but I see some cells with gray background on the 
second row of the worksheet (not on the first row as it should be). But, 
the column H does not have this gray cell.

o Do the grey and yellow background colours appear?
No cell with yellow backgound. Some cells with gray backgound on the 
second row as written above

o If you select a cell that should show a value, what do you see in the 
Input Line?
Nothing is displayed in the Input line, the cells looks empty.

o If you double-click a cell (or press F2), can you the select hidden text 
within the cell by dragging the cursor?
No, the cell look empty

o I notice that the font colour is (generally) set to Black; what happens 
if you change it to Automatic?
I tried to change the color to Automatic buy nothing is displayed yet

o What happens if you select the sheet and change the font? Or change the 
font size to something smaller?
I have tried different options for font and size but nothing is displayed.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: Rif: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Posted by Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>.
At 08:23 20/06/2014 +0200, Francesco Ziviani wrote:
>I have installed OpenOffice 4.1.0 but the problem still exists.
>I attach some screenshots of what happens. As you can see ...

Sorry, but your screenshots were not distributed, so no-one will have 
been able to see, I think.

At 08:36 20/06/2014 +0200, Francesco Ziviani wrote:
>The screenshots were not displayed in my previous email. I send them 
>again inside a Draw attachment.

Still nothing received.

I've been thinking more about this.
o Do the column headers appear?
o Do the grey and yellow background colours appear?
o If you select a cell that should show a value, what do you see in 
the Input Line?
o If you double-click a cell (or press F2), can you the select hidden 
text within the cell by dragging the cursor?
o I notice that the font colour is (generally) set to Black; what 
happens if you change it to Automatic?
o What happens if you select the sheet and change the font? Or change 
the font size to something smaller?

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Rif: Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Posted by Fr...@surftech.it.
The screenshots were not displayed in my previous email. I send them again 
inside a Draw attachment.



Ing. Francesco Ziviani
Sales Manager

Tel. +39 348 4109172
Fax. +39 045 21090140
E-mail francesco.ziviani@surftech.it

Surftech S.r.l.
Via dei Montecchi 8 - 37031 Illasi (VR)
www.surftech.it


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Da:     Francesco.Ziviani@surftech.it
Per:    users@openoffice.apache.org
Data:   20/06/2014 08:24
Oggetto:        Rif: Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4



Hallo. 

I have installed OpenOffice 4.1.0 but the problem still exists. 
AOO410m18(Build:9764)  -  Rev. 1589052 
2014-04-22 11:43:54 (Di, 22 Apr 2014) 

I attach some screenshots of what happens. 




As you can see the values contained in the worksheet are correctly 
displayed in the preview of the File - Open dialog but when I open it they 
disappear. 
I guess that the preview of the file is managed by Windows and not by 
OpenOffice itself and this is the reason why the preview shows correctly 
the content. 

If I open the file with OpenOffice 3 it shows correctly. 

I saw that other users don't have the problem. Could it be a bug of the 
italian version? 


Ing. Francesco Ziviani 
Sales Manager 

Tel. +39 348 4109172 
Fax. +39 045 21090140 
E-mail francesco.ziviani@surftech.it 

Surftech S.r.l. 
Via dei Montecchi 8 - 37031 Illasi (VR) 
www.surftech.it 


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Da:        Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com> 
Per:        users@openoffice.apache.org 
Data:        19/06/2014 23:17 
Oggetto:        Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4 



At 17:51 19/06/2014 +0200, Francesco Ziviani wrote:
>I am encountering a strange behavior with OpenOffice 4 and the 
>attached xls file. If I open it with OpenOffice 4 it does not show 
>the cell values but if I open it with OpenOffice 3 or MS Excel it 
>does show the values correctly.

It appears to open correctly in my OpenOffice 4.1.0 on Windows XP^H^H 
mumble-mumble. When you say it does not show the cell values, what do 
you mean - that every cell appears empty? Or that something else appears?

>If I open the file with Excel and save another copy without making 
>any change, that copy is correctly opened with values with OO 4. The 
>xls file is created by a program that extracts values from an ERP 
systems.

Doesn't that at least identify the problem? If what Excel saves can 
be opened but not the original file, then your other program creating 
the file is offering something that can be opened by Microsoft Excel 
but which is not exactly in the correct format for .xls. It's perhaps 
not surprising that OpenOffice might not handle this incorrect file 
correctly. Alternatively, the fact that the copy you attached opens 
satisfactorily for me without ceremony may suggest that re-saving in 
Excel is unnecessary and that merely creating the copy is somehow the 
key. Can you open the copy of the file that will have been returned 
to you from the list with your copy of your own message?

>Any idea about how to solve the problem?

Since I cannot see anything wrong on my system, unfortunately not. 
You could complain to the suppliers of the other program.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Rif: Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Posted by Fr...@surftech.it.
Hallo.

I have installed OpenOffice 4.1.0 but the problem still exists.
AOO410m18(Build:9764)  -  Rev. 1589052
2014-04-22 11:43:54 (Di, 22 Apr 2014)

I attach some screenshots of what happens.




As you can see the values contained in the worksheet are correctly 
displayed in the preview of the File - Open dialog but when I open it they 
disappear.
I guess that the preview of the file is managed by Windows and not by 
OpenOffice itself and this is the reason why the preview shows correctly 
the content.

If I open the file with OpenOffice 3 it shows correctly.

I saw that other users don't have the problem. Could it be a bug of the 
italian version?


Ing. Francesco Ziviani
Sales Manager

Tel. +39 348 4109172
Fax. +39 045 21090140
E-mail francesco.ziviani@surftech.it

Surftech S.r.l.
Via dei Montecchi 8 - 37031 Illasi (VR)
www.surftech.it


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Da:     Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>
Per:    users@openoffice.apache.org
Data:   19/06/2014 23:17
Oggetto:        Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4



At 17:51 19/06/2014 +0200, Francesco Ziviani wrote:
>I am encountering a strange behavior with OpenOffice 4 and the 
>attached xls file. If I open it with OpenOffice 4 it does not show 
>the cell values but if I open it with OpenOffice 3 or MS Excel it 
>does show the values correctly.

It appears to open correctly in my OpenOffice 4.1.0 on Windows XP^H^H 
mumble-mumble. When you say it does not show the cell values, what do 
you mean - that every cell appears empty? Or that something else appears?

>If I open the file with Excel and save another copy without making 
>any change, that copy is correctly opened with values with OO 4. The 
>xls file is created by a program that extracts values from an ERP 
systems.

Doesn't that at least identify the problem? If what Excel saves can 
be opened but not the original file, then your other program creating 
the file is offering something that can be opened by Microsoft Excel 
but which is not exactly in the correct format for .xls. It's perhaps 
not surprising that OpenOffice might not handle this incorrect file 
correctly. Alternatively, the fact that the copy you attached opens 
satisfactorily for me without ceremony may suggest that re-saving in 
Excel is unnecessary and that merely creating the copy is somehow the 
key. Can you open the copy of the file that will have been returned 
to you from the list with your copy of your own message?

>Any idea about how to solve the problem?

Since I cannot see anything wrong on my system, unfortunately not. 
You could complain to the suppliers of the other program.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Posted by Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>.
At 17:51 19/06/2014 +0200, Francesco Ziviani wrote:
>I am encountering a strange behavior with OpenOffice 4 and the 
>attached xls file. If I open it with OpenOffice 4 it does not show 
>the cell values but if I open it with OpenOffice 3 or MS Excel it 
>does show the values correctly.

It appears to open correctly in my OpenOffice 4.1.0 on Windows XP^H^H 
mumble-mumble. When you say it does not show the cell values, what do 
you mean - that every cell appears empty? Or that something else appears?

>If I open the file with Excel and save another copy without making 
>any change, that copy is correctly opened with values with OO 4. The 
>xls file is created by a program that extracts values from an ERP systems.

Doesn't that at least identify the problem? If what Excel saves can 
be opened but not the original file, then your other program creating 
the file is offering something that can be opened by Microsoft Excel 
but which is not exactly in the correct format for .xls. It's perhaps 
not surprising that OpenOffice might not handle this incorrect file 
correctly. Alternatively, the fact that the copy you attached opens 
satisfactorily for me without ceremony may suggest that re-saving in 
Excel is unnecessary and that merely creating the copy is somehow the 
key. Can you open the copy of the file that will have been returned 
to you from the list with your copy of your own message?

>Any idea about how to solve the problem?

Since I cannot see anything wrong on my system, unfortunately not. 
You could complain to the suppliers of the other program.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: Rif: Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Posted by NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 06/19/2014 09:19 AM, Francesco.Ziviani@surftech.it wrote:
> Hallo.
> 
> I'm using the following:
> 
> AOO401m5(Build:9714)  -  Rev. 1524958
> 2013-09-20 11:40:29 (Fr, 20 Sep 2013)
> 
> Operating system: Windows 8.1 x64

I downloaded and installed 4.01 on WinXP (it's the only version of
Windows I have in a virtual machine right now - sorry can't help with Win8):

AOO401m5(Build:9714)  -  Rev. 1524958
2013-09-20 11:40:29 (Fr, 20 Sep 2013)

And the spreadsheet opens and displays just fine for me in in WindowsXP.

Gary
...

>> 
>> Any idea about how to solve the problem?
> ...
> 
> Francesco: It will help if you tell the list what version and OS you are
> using.
> 
> Works for me:
> AOO 4.1.0
> AOO410m18(Build:9764)  -  Rev. 1589052
> 2014-04-22 12:11 - Linux x86_64
> 
> Gary



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Rif: Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Posted by Fr...@surftech.it.
Hallo.

I'm using the following:

AOO401m5(Build:9714)  -  Rev. 1524958
2013-09-20 11:40:29 (Fr, 20 Sep 2013)

Operating system: Windows 8.1 x64

Thank you.


Ing. Francesco Ziviani
Sales Manager

Tel. +39 348 4109172
Fax. +39 045 21090140
E-mail francesco.ziviani@surftech.it

Surftech S.r.l.
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www.surftech.it


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Da:     NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net>
Per:    users@openoffice.apache.org
Data:   19/06/2014 18:07
Oggetto:        Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4



On 06/19/2014 08:51 AM, Francesco.Ziviani@surftech.it wrote:
> Hallo.
> 
> I am encountering a strange behavior with OpenOffice 4 and the attached 
> xls file.
> If I open it with OpenOffice 4 it does not show the cell values ​​but 
if 
> I open it with OpenOffice 3 or MS Excel it does show the values 
correctly.
> If I select the same file by browsing the folder from "File - Open" menu 

> of OO4 I can see in the preview the values but when I open it the values 

> are not shown.
> If I open the file with Excel and save another copy without making any 
> change, that copy is correctly opened with values with OO 4.
> The xls file is created by a program that extracts values from an ERP 
> systems.
> 
> Any idea about how to solve the problem?
...

Francesco: It will help if you tell the list what version and OS you are
using.

Works for me:
AOO 4.1.0
AOO410m18(Build:9764)  -  Rev. 1589052
2014-04-22 12:11 - Linux x86_64

Gary




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Re: Strange behaviour with OpenOffice 4

Posted by NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 06/19/2014 08:51 AM, Francesco.Ziviani@surftech.it wrote:
> Hallo.
> 
> I am encountering a strange behavior with OpenOffice 4 and the attached 
> xls file.
> If I open it with OpenOffice 4 it does not show the cell values ​​but if 
> I open it with OpenOffice 3 or MS Excel it does show the values correctly.
> If I select the same file by browsing the folder from "File - Open" menu 
> of OO4 I can see in the preview the values but when I open it the values 
> are not shown.
> If I open the file with Excel and save another copy without making any 
> change, that copy is correctly opened with values with OO 4.
> The xls file is created by a program that extracts values from an ERP 
> systems.
> 
> Any idea about how to solve the problem?
...

Francesco: It will help if you tell the list what version and OS you are
using.

Works for me:
AOO 4.1.0
AOO410m18(Build:9764)  -  Rev. 1589052
2014-04-22 12:11 - Linux x86_64

Gary




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