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IDE
I'm sure this question has been asked many times. So, I apologize in
advance. Can anyone recommend a freeware Java/JSP/JSF IDE that is
compatible with Apache and Tomcat?
Thanks in advance.
Dave
Re: IDE
Posted by Johnny Kewl <jo...@kewlstuff.co.za>.
Ah... get a chance to tell you how cool Netbeans is, love love love it.
Does most any Java programming, and it excels with Tomcat.
Use a wizard to make your JSP or Servlet, then debug it in the editor, and
then deploy, all very easy.
Apache is all text configuration... it actually could do with a good
configuration tool but I have never seen one. Apache has very good help
files that will get you going.
Typically you develop your Tomcat stuff, and plug into Apache afterwards for
stuff like load balancing and clustering, and you can debug your servlet
with Apache acting as a front end... dont worry about that, you'll pick up
Apache once you get going with Tomcat and Netbeans.
If you going to learn Netbeans, just keep in mind that the "Web Visual
Development" is bleeding edge.
That stuff lets you develop web sites like VB IDE's, but its not a good way
to learn servlets and JSP's... it uses Tag handlers, Script, CSS, Java
Server Faces to work its magic, and they are all deep frameworks, so the
HTML page and the Java will look foreign.
So get Netbeans, use the project manager to make a NORMAL "web application",
then right click on the project and make a JSP page, and right click on the
project and make a Servlet, then right click on those items and run them...
you will see Tomcat work and the test pages in the browser.
If you look at the code, its easy to understand and you'll learn quickly.
Then you can start looking at stuff like Java Server Faces, Tag handling, or
Struts in the wizards.... and decide if you want to go that way. There are
so many frameworks, its overwhelming, so better to get into the basic stuff
first.
Spring is also a popular framework as well and you can download the Spring
plugin for Netbeans...
Can even get a C++ module for Netbeans.
Put in this way... I used to develop with Visual Studio.... Netbeans Tomcat
and Java are better.
Not only as tools, but you will find these tools allow you to leverage a
huge open source environment, and that means with smart design, your clients
only need to pay you.
There are terrific dB's out there like Postgresql, there are powerful search
engines, XML tools, and you'll find most of the Apache site Open Source
integrates beautifully.
Developing on Windows works very very well, very easy to setup, and a nice
dev environment.
Then... run your creation on plain XP or MS Server 2000/3 or drop it into
linux.
If you new to Java.... take your time with the basics, you'll find you can
do most things... then have a look at stuff like JBoss Spring Struts etc.
Netbeans..... very very good, and sponsored by Sun, so you can be sure all
the fancy stuff like Enterprise EJB's are also covered.
I get very excited when I see a newbie coming to Tomcat and Netbeans....
theres a learning curve but you never going to look back.
I call it foreplay... and theres a major orgasm ahead of you.... ha ha.
Have Fun
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Short" <ds...@san.rr.com>
To: <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:47 AM
Subject: IDE
> I'm sure this question has been asked many times. So, I apologize in
> advance. Can anyone recommend a freeware Java/JSP/JSF IDE that is
> compatible with Apache and Tomcat?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dave
>
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Re: IDE
Posted by Rashmi Rubdi <ra...@gmail.com>.
NetBeans and Eclipse are the most popular ones.
http://www.netbeans.org/ + Visual Web Pack
http://www.netbeans.org/products/visualweb/
http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-jsf/
jEdit is great with macros and vertical copy-paste, but it's a
plain-text editor.
-Rashmi
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Re: IDE
Posted by Rashmi Rubdi <ra...@gmail.com>.
On 4/17/07, David Short <ds...@san.rr.com> wrote:
> NetBeans uses the embedded Tomcat 5.5.17 by default. How can a newly
> installed Tomcat 5.5.20 be configured to be used as the default?
>
Like most products/technologies NetBeans has it's own mailing list:
http://www.netbeans.org/community/lists/
-Rashmi
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Re: IDE
Posted by Johnny Kewl <jo...@kewlstuff.co.za>.
.... nice to know they cant take it back.... haha
----- Original Message -----
From: "Caldarale, Charles R" <Ch...@unisys.com>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:34 AM
Subject: RE: IDE
> From: Johnny Kewl [mailto:john@kewlstuff.co.za]
> Subject: Re: IDE
>
> If I'm not mistaken.... Both Tomcat and Netbeans are sponsored by Sun
No longer true for Tomcat. These days, Tomcat is completely independent
of Sun, since Sun is producing its own app server (Sun Java System Web
Server, formerly known as Sun ONE).
- Chuck
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RE: IDE
Posted by "Caldarale, Charles R" <Ch...@unisys.com>.
> From: Johnny Kewl [mailto:john@kewlstuff.co.za]
> Subject: Re: IDE
>
> If I'm not mistaken.... Both Tomcat and Netbeans are sponsored by Sun
No longer true for Tomcat. These days, Tomcat is completely independent
of Sun, since Sun is producing its own app server (Sun Java System Web
Server, formerly known as Sun ONE).
- Chuck
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Re: IDE
Posted by Johnny Kewl <jo...@kewlstuff.co.za>.
If I'm not mistaken.... Both Tomcat and Netbeans are sponsored by Sun
So its not surprising they go well together....
Tomcat is Suns servlet test standard.... and netbeans is the Sun sponsored
dev tool ;)
NetBeans IDE 5.5 Download Installers
English (en) ??? (ja) Português (pt_BR) ?? (zh_CN) ???? (zh_TW)
Linux 54.5 MB 54.5 MB 54.5 MB 54.5 MB 45.6 MB
Mac OS X 83 MB 83 MB 83 MB 83 MB 71.2 MB
Solaris SPARC 54.5 MB 54.5 MB 54.5 MB 54.5 MB 45.6 MB
Solaris x86 54.5 MB 54.5 MB 54.5 MB 54.5 MB 45.6 MB
Windows 54.7 MB 54.7 MB 54.7 MB 54.7 MB 45.8 MB
I'm sure there is a netbeans there for u.....
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From: "dimitryous r." <04...@edelphy.com>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: IDE
> Hi,
> Thanks you for your reply.
> If I'm reading you correctly, my approach is useless.
>> Its actually amazing because when you debug... it use the NEW tomcat...
>> you will be able to tell straight away because when you compile a
>> servel, if it is in the new tomcat, it will dissapear because netbeans
>> wants it to use the BUILD code.
>
> NetBeans, just for fun??? Don't want to install 10 Tomcat servers. If the
> build-in can't afford new versions from beginning to end then the
> functionality is useless. So become NetBeans.
> Had a look to your URL: great. Have to do the same for my MacOSX 10.4.9
> i386 platform then. Unix is not Linux - unfortunately -.
> If I ever succeed, wil keep you informed.
> My tool is Xcode but it is not an IDE as NetBeans is.
> I'm positive telling you somebody did the correct swap from build-in
> 5.0.17 to 5.0.20 or even 6.x.x, but it is not just a copy/paste action.
>> These Netbean Tomcat dudes are flippin smart....
> Is NetBeans.org a subsidiary of Sun or an independent organization like
> Apache.org?
>
>
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Re: IDE
Posted by "dimitryous r." <04...@edelphy.com>.
Hi,
Thanks you for your reply.
If I'm reading you correctly, my approach is useless.
> Its actually amazing because when you debug... it use the NEW
> tomcat... you will be able to tell straight away because when you
> compile a servel, if it is in the new tomcat, it will dissapear
> because netbeans wants it to use the BUILD code.
NetBeans, just for fun??? Don't want to install 10 Tomcat servers. If
the build-in can't afford new versions from beginning to end then the
functionality is useless. So become NetBeans.
Had a look to your URL: great. Have to do the same for my MacOSX
10.4.9 i386 platform then. Unix is not Linux - unfortunately -.
If I ever succeed, wil keep you informed.
My tool is Xcode but it is not an IDE as NetBeans is.
I'm positive telling you somebody did the correct swap from build-in
5.0.17 to 5.0.20 or even 6.x.x, but it is not just a copy/paste action.
> These Netbean Tomcat dudes are flippin smart....
Is NetBeans.org a subsidiary of Sun or an independent organization
like Apache.org?
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Re: IDE
Posted by Johnny Kewl <jo...@kewlstuff.co.za>.
Sorry for delay... hell of a electric storm here...
You made me look again... ha ha
OK... you got the previous TOOLS->SERVER MANAGER->ADD SERVER story.
You can set up 10 tomcats if you want, just make sure each one as a unique
server and shutdown port.
THEN.... just start a project, make a servlet etc. If you right click,
select
PROPERTIES RUN.... you will see you can run any of the tomcats.
Its actually amazing because when you debug... it use the NEW tomcat... you
will be able to tell straight away because when you compile a servel, if it
is in the new tomcat, it will dissapear because netbeans wants it to use the
BUILD code.
These Netbean Tomcat dudes are flippin smart....
Here is link for the linux guys
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_Netbeans_and_Tomcat
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Short" <ds...@san.rr.com>
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: IDE
> NetBeans uses the embedded Tomcat 5.5.17 by default. How can a newly
> installed Tomcat 5.5.20 be configured to be used as the default?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnny Kewl [mailto:john@kewlstuff.co.za]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:33 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: IDE
>
> Dont pull it out...
> Just stick a new one in...
>
> Just download the Tomcat you want... if its windows, the server version is
> cool.
> Stick it somewhere on one of your hard-drives.
>
> Go to TOOLS -> SERVER MANAGER
> Click NEW SERVER
>
> Netbeans will now use the new Tomcat... and you can switch between them if
> you want.
>
> Enjoy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dimitryous r." <04...@edelphy.com>
> To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: IDE
>
>
>> Hello, NetBeans 5.5 at http://www.netbeans.org does it.
>> But it comes with his own Apache Tomcat JSP (5.0.17 for MacOSX).
>> Deplyoment is very easy.
>>
>> I don't know how to pull out this version with a more recent one 5.0.20
>> ...
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> TIA
>> On 6 avr. 07, at 02:47, David Short wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure this question has been asked many times. So, I apologize in
>>> advance. Can anyone recommend a freeware Java/JSP/JSF IDE that is
>>> compatible with Apache and Tomcat?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
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Re: IDE
Posted by "dimitryous r." <04...@edelphy.com>.
Hi there
Here is a partial list of my ports:
Open TCP Port: 80 http://192.168.0.1/ Apache HTTPD 1.3.33 +
php5 + MySQL
...
Open TCP Port: 3306 jdbc:mysql://192.168.0.1:3306/javatest?" +
"user=the_user&password=the_pswd"
MySQL
Open TCP Port: 3700 ???
Open TCP Port: 3820 ???
Open TCP Port: 3920 ???
Open TCP Port: 4848 http://192.168.0.1:4848/ Sun Java™ System
Application Server Admin Console
Open TCP Port: 7676 ???
Open TCP Port: 8009 ???
Open TCP Port: 8080 http://192.168.0.1:8080/ Apache Tomcat 5.5.20
Open TCP Port: 8081 http://192.168.0.1:8081/ Apache Tomcat 5.5.17
Open TCP Port: 8181 https://192.168.0.1:8181/ idem for ssl
connections
Open TCP Port: 8686 ???
As you see, the Apache Tomcat 5.5.17 is useless as the first one is
running at boot time.
? Is there a way to avoid to launch Apache Tomcat 5.5.17 when I
launch NetBeans 5.5 ?
? Will try change some of the code within NetBeans ?
On 17 avr. 07, at 18:34, David Short wrote:
> NetBeans uses the embedded Tomcat 5.5.17 by default. How can a newly
> installed Tomcat 5.5.20 be configured to be used as the default?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnny Kewl [mailto:john@kewlstuff.co.za]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:33 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: IDE
>
> Dont pull it out...
> Just stick a new one in...
>
> Just download the Tomcat you want... if its windows, the server
> version is
> cool.
> Stick it somewhere on one of your hard-drives.
>
> Go to TOOLS -> SERVER MANAGER
> Click NEW SERVER
>
> Netbeans will now use the new Tomcat... and you can switch between
> them if
> you want.
>
> Enjoy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dimitryous r." <04...@edelphy.com>
> To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: IDE
>
>
>> Hello, NetBeans 5.5 at http://www.netbeans.org does it.
>> But it comes with his own Apache Tomcat JSP (5.0.17 for MacOSX).
>> Deplyoment is very easy.
>>
>> I don't know how to pull out this version with a more recent one
>> 5.0.20
>> ...
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> TIA
>> On 6 avr. 07, at 02:47, David Short wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure this question has been asked many times. So, I
>>> apologize in
>>> advance. Can anyone recommend a freeware Java/JSP/JSF IDE that is
>>> compatible with Apache and Tomcat?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
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RE: IDE
Posted by David Short <ds...@san.rr.com>.
NetBeans uses the embedded Tomcat 5.5.17 by default. How can a newly
installed Tomcat 5.5.20 be configured to be used as the default?
-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Kewl [mailto:john@kewlstuff.co.za]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:33 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: IDE
Dont pull it out...
Just stick a new one in...
Just download the Tomcat you want... if its windows, the server version is
cool.
Stick it somewhere on one of your hard-drives.
Go to TOOLS -> SERVER MANAGER
Click NEW SERVER
Netbeans will now use the new Tomcat... and you can switch between them if
you want.
Enjoy
----- Original Message -----
From: "dimitryous r." <04...@edelphy.com>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: IDE
> Hello, NetBeans 5.5 at http://www.netbeans.org does it.
> But it comes with his own Apache Tomcat JSP (5.0.17 for MacOSX).
> Deplyoment is very easy.
>
> I don't know how to pull out this version with a more recent one 5.0.20
> ...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TIA
> On 6 avr. 07, at 02:47, David Short wrote:
>
>> I'm sure this question has been asked many times. So, I apologize in
>> advance. Can anyone recommend a freeware Java/JSP/JSF IDE that is
>> compatible with Apache and Tomcat?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Dave
>
>
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Re: IDE
Posted by Johnny Kewl <jo...@kewlstuff.co.za>.
Dont pull it out...
Just stick a new one in...
Just download the Tomcat you want... if its windows, the server version is
cool.
Stick it somewhere on one of your hard-drives.
Go to TOOLS -> SERVER MANAGER
Click NEW SERVER
Netbeans will now use the new Tomcat... and you can switch between them if
you want.
Enjoy
----- Original Message -----
From: "dimitryous r." <04...@edelphy.com>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: IDE
> Hello, NetBeans 5.5 at http://www.netbeans.org does it.
> But it comes with his own Apache Tomcat JSP (5.0.17 for MacOSX).
> Deplyoment is very easy.
>
> I don't know how to pull out this version with a more recent one 5.0.20
> ...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TIA
> On 6 avr. 07, at 02:47, David Short wrote:
>
>> I'm sure this question has been asked many times. So, I apologize in
>> advance. Can anyone recommend a freeware Java/JSP/JSF IDE that is
>> compatible with Apache and Tomcat?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Dave
>
>
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Re: IDE
Posted by "dimitryous r." <04...@edelphy.com>.
Hello, NetBeans 5.5 at http://www.netbeans.org does it.
But it comes with his own Apache Tomcat JSP (5.0.17 for MacOSX).
Deplyoment is very easy.
I don't know how to pull out this version with a more recent one
5.0.20 ...
Any ideas?
TIA
On 6 avr. 07, at 02:47, David Short wrote:
> I'm sure this question has been asked many times. So, I apologize in
> advance. Can anyone recommend a freeware Java/JSP/JSF IDE that is
> compatible with Apache and Tomcat?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dave
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Re: IDE
Posted by David Smith <dn...@cornell.edu>.
I don't do anything with jsf (yet), but have done a lot of work with
NetBeans. It does a very nice job.
--David
David Short wrote:
> I'm sure this question has been asked many times. So, I apologize in
> advance. Can anyone recommend a freeware Java/JSP/JSF IDE that is
> compatible with Apache and Tomcat?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dave
>
>
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