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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com> on 2012/05/01 15:43:42 UTC
Re: Pages in the social media
Hi.
2012/4/29 Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>
> Hi.
>
> 2012/4/29 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
>
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto
>> > <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi.
>> >>
>> >> 2012/4/28 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >> Thanks Andrea.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> Rob Weir wrote:
>> >>> >>>> In return, and to demonstrate that this is not about control on
>> my
>> >>> >>>> part, I'm happy to listen to any proposal you [Alexandro] might
>> have
>> >>> regarding
>> >>> >>>> open PPMC access to the Twitter account. And if you make your
>> Twitter
>> >>> >>>> account just as openly available to PPMC members as I've done
>> with the
>> >>> >>>> new one, then I'll be happy to notify followers of the new
>> Twitter
>> >>> >>>> account that they should follow the one that you turn over to
>> PPMC
>> >>> >>>> control.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> This is a very reasonable proposal and it would be a positive,
>> >>> constructive outcome of this long discussion. Just to clarify, I'm not
>> >>> personally interested in managing any of the "social" OpenOffice
>> channels,
>> >>> let alone posting content there: I would just like that the project
>> has one
>> >>> clear official channel on each social media, with shared access.
>> Users are
>> >>> already confused enough.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> It would be good if you close those accounts and work with the
>> ones
>> >>> >>> that were already working. Like I said before doesnt make sense to
>> >>> >>> duplicate efforts.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Agreed. Now if Alexandro and Rob will just work together... on
>> >>> management, tools and strategy. It will be great. I'm looking forward
>> to it.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I think you miss the point entirely, Dave. This is not about
>> >>> > Alexandro. This is not about me. This is about what the PPMC wants.
>> >>> > We've already had a discussion on this list about official pages and
>> >>> > the decisions from that thread have already been implemented. those
>> >>> > pages are under PPMC control. We did not need anything from
>> Alexandro
>> >>> > to do that. We still don't.
>> >>>
>> >>> I get your point. I have a different point. We may not "need"
>> Alexandro to
>> >>> do anything, but I want him involved, and if I am reading correctly
>> others
>> >>> do as well.
>> >>>
>> >>> Community over code, dude. We "want" to work together.
>> >>>
>> >>> Have a good weekend. I have no desire to discuss this further.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Dave
>> >>>
>> >>> - World peace - not whirled peas
>> >>>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -Rob
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Regards,
>> >>> >> Dave
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> >>> Andrea.
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> The social network is to write/speak on annuncius the aoo, continually.
>> >>
>> >> I can also contribute to the any networks, ok.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Albino @bino28
>> >
>>
>
>
>> > Good I will add you to the Google plus page.
>>
>>
> Thanks!
>
> We have G+ page, this isn't page oficial [1].
>
>
>> -1 to that.
>>
>> We're limiting authoring rights to PPMC members. Also, we already
>> have a Google+ page.
>>
>>
> I understand aoo political.
>
>
>> Since you've expressed interest in avoiding duplication of effort,
>> could you please give some attention to getting the PPMC involved in
>> your OpenOffice.org Facebook page. You could actually accomplish
>> something there if you tried.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>
> identi.ca and twitter = ok
> hastag = ok
>
> g+ = ok
>
> 1 - http://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668
>
> fbook = not
>
> Social networking is important, it also marketing the aoo, all know.
>
> This discussion has been held on what I read, I *apologize for something.
>
> Best,
> Albino
>
Alessandro, what think edit page G+ for AOOBr ?
As we have an official page in G+, but not yet have the Brazil.
Tks,
Albino @bino28
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Roberto Salomon <ro...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Non-English social media accounts have two major tasks: Deliver official
news in the communities' languages and deliver news that, although
interesting for local communities, may not be of interest for other
communities.
Simply relaying English content through a non-English channel defeats the
purpose, as Imacat said.
As for the human resources, what I found in the past is that volunteers are
a great source of information, as long as they don't have to maintain the
lists or sites themselves. A localized social media e-mail address could be
set as a front-end for information gathering that could supply a steady
feed of relevant information for the community.
Best regards,
2012/5/6 imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw>
> On 2012/05/06 22:08, Rob Weir said:
> > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM, imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw>
> wrote:
> >> On 2012/05/06 18:53, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
> >>> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>
> >>>> 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >> Could I ask how you plan to manage them? I was thinking about the
> >> same thing for Taiwan, but I cannot think of where can I get the content
> >> for and the human resource to manage these pages.
> > How to find content? A few sources I use:
> > ...
>
> Rob,
>
> Ah ha ha ha. I was asking you the other question. This question I
> was asking Albino's experience on non-English social media accounts. ^^;
> It does not make sense to forward all the English content to
> non-English social media account, but it does hurt our time and effort
> to translate them instead. But thanks for your answer anyway. ^_*'
>
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>
>
--
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Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>.
Hi.
@Rob
It was not the intent of the site, Claudio and I are discussing on a port
official .BR. As we are discussing AOOBr there, decided to put him to
finish on the portal.
Thanks for the suggestions, I have no idea about. In EL suggested for other
networks tone down.
Hit the link. ;)
@Imacat
I'll manage them with content read from the list of ooo-dev, official
announcements, and on the blog, the pace of releases and other resources
also told by Rob.
Best,
Albino
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw>.
On 2012/05/06 22:08, Rob Weir said:
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM, imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> wrote:
>> On 2012/05/06 18:53, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
>>> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>
>>>> 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>:
>> Could I ask how you plan to manage them? I was thinking about the
>> same thing for Taiwan, but I cannot think of where can I get the content
>> for and the human resource to manage these pages.
> How to find content? A few sources I use:
> ...
Rob,
Ah ha ha ha. I was asking you the other question. This question I
was asking Albino's experience on non-English social media accounts. ^^;
It does not make sense to forward all the English content to
non-English social media account, but it does hurt our time and effort
to translate them instead. But thanks for your answer anyway. ^_*'
--
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Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM, imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2012/05/06 18:53, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
>> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>
>>> 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>:
>> As no answer came the suggestion, I created the page in the G + AOOBr (and
>> more):
>> Organize:
>> identi.ca e twitter: @apacheoobr
>> hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
>> Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
>> G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036
>
> Could I ask how you plan to manage them? I was thinking about the
> same thing for Taiwan, but I cannot think of where can I get the content
> for and the human resource to manage these pages.
>
How to find content? A few sources I use:
1) First there is news from the AOO project itself, new blog posts,
new milestones, new accomplishments in the project.
2) Search for new content on the social network itself. So if you
have a Twitter account, search Twitter for recent posts that mention
"OpenOffice" or "Open Office".
3) Sign up for Google Alerts (http://www.google.com/alerts) to receive
daily email updates of new content related to your keywords.
4) Of course, follow the English-language accounts, @ApacheOO. If
there is a good post there, translate it and repost it. And if you
find a good local story that might be interesting internationally,
then translate to English and send to @ApacheOO.
As for time and effort needed to manage the pages, an easy
simplification is to do just one. Facebook attracts more end-users.
Google+ is more technical users. Twitter is a mix, but good mainly
for short messages.
-Rob
> --
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Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw>.
Hi,
On 2012/05/06 18:53, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>
>> 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>:
> As no answer came the suggestion, I created the page in the G + AOOBr (and
> more):
> Organize:
> identi.ca e twitter: @apacheoobr
> hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
> Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
> G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036
Could I ask how you plan to manage them? I was thinking about the
same thing for Taiwan, but I cannot think of where can I get the content
for and the human resource to manage these pages.
--
Best regards,
imacat ^_*' <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw>
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EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw>.
On 2012/05/06 22:14, Rob Weir said:
> n Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:05 AM, imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> wrote:
>> That said, could I setup official OpenOffice account for Taiwan on
>> Facebook, Plurk, etc?
> Oh, I know nothing about Plurk ;-)
Plurk is the most popular micro-blogging service in Taiwan.
Actually there are some local social-media services that may be most
popular in one country, like Plurk in Taiwan or AmebaNow in Japan, or
Weibo/Renren in China. Should we set up an global official account on
these services and then a local one? Or should we set up local accounts
only? That said, should I set up @apacheoo or @apacheootw on Plurk?
>> What is the condition besides linking to www.openoffice.org? Is it
>> OK to link to zh.openoffice.org?
> That's fine. The important thing is that we are directing the user
> back to the project's website.
> Would the page be for traditional and simplified Chinese? Or only traditional?
> (I am ignorant of these things. Can the average Chinese reader
> understand both scripts?)
Well... *theoretically* speaking, pages for Traditional and
Simplified Chinese should be separated. We have long, different
cultures. It does not look good to post Simplified Chinese content for
Taiwan people. I do not know if vice versa. The reason is not for
discussion here.
But that's only *theoretically*. In *reality* the China government
GFW blocks Twitter, Google+, Facebook, Plurk, ...all the social media
services. So this question makes no sense.
(So, Xia Ziao: Are you going to set up accounts on Weibo or Renren?)
> Of course, you will also want to make a specific proposal on this list
> and see if anyone objects (lazy consensus).
OK. I will propose that. Thank you. ^_*'
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Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
n Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:05 AM, imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> wrote:
> That said, could I setup official OpenOffice account for Taiwan on
> Facebook, Plurk, etc?
>
Oh, I know nothing about Plurk ;-)
> What is the condition besides linking to www.openoffice.org? Is it
> OK to link to zh.openoffice.org?
>
That's fine. The important thing is that we are directing the user
back to the project's website.
Would the page be for traditional and simplified Chinese? Or only traditional?
(I am ignorant of these things. Can the average Chinese reader
understand both scripts?)
Facebook and Google+ have built-in tools for allowing multiple users
to co-administer the account. This is good thing, so you can share
the effort in managing the account. Twitter has no built-in support
for this, so you would need to rely on outside services for this.
But I know you are active on Google+, so maybe good to start there?
On Google+ they call it a "Google+ Page". If you go here you should
see a button for creating a new page:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/pages/manage
Of course, you will also want to make a specific proposal on this list
and see if anyone objects (lazy consensus).
-Rob
> On 2012/05/06 21:51, Rob Weir said:
>> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto
>> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>
>>> hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
>>> Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
>> Similar here, the "website" should be openoffice.org:
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929?sk=info
>>> G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036
>> And same here. An official project account should be linking back to
>> the project website, not to www.escritoriolivre.org.
>
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>
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>.
Rob,
Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> 2012/5/6 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
>>> And same here. An official project account should be linking back to
>>> the project website, not to www.escritoriolivre.org.
>> Rob, remember that we *haven't* infra yet. When we have a pt-br list,
>> naturally we will use it.
>>
>
> We have a page here: http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/
>
<snip>
I understand that OpenOffice.org did things differently here. In some
> sense they compensated for strong corporate control of the code by
> giving more autonomy to the NLC. That was how they "achieved peace"
> with the community, But we don't have that issue here. At Apache
> everyone has equal freedom to work directly within the project.
Sun's Hamburg team lead and, initially, the US elements, considered the NL projects as at best walled gardens and at worst a waste of time. I had to proceed very cautiously with them, until such a point that momentum took over.
And it took over:-) The LO/TDF contingent that left was almost entirely the NLC population. Put another way, the NLC were not a palliative, or if it was thought by some to be such, was a rather lousy one. Rather, they were vehicles to seek a sustainable community independent of any one company.
The element that *was* mean to bring in people were the extensions, though these too were not palliative. But this too took a rather long time to realise and put into effect, and as some here can attest, it too was proceed with cautiously.
But I totally agree with your point that here, in Apache-land, things are fundamentally different and more open, as governance is accountable to Apache and is not directed by the business needs of any single company owning the code. The transition to this model is right now going rather well, all things considered. But what will make the deciding difference, I believe, is to build the ecosystem anew.
Louis
>
> -Rob
>
>> In other hand, we can (re)discuss this question here.
>>
>> Best,
>> Claudio
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw>.
That said, could I setup official OpenOffice account for Taiwan on
Facebook, Plurk, etc?
What is the condition besides linking to www.openoffice.org? Is it
OK to link to zh.openoffice.org?
On 2012/05/06 21:51, Rob Weir said:
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto
> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>
>> hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
>> Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
> Similar here, the "website" should be openoffice.org:
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929?sk=info
>> G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036
> And same here. An official project account should be linking back to
> the project website, not to www.escritoriolivre.org.
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Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> 2012/5/6 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
>> And same here. An official project account should be linking back to
>> the project website, not to www.escritoriolivre.org.
>
> Rob, remember that we *haven't* infra yet. When we have a pt-br list,
> naturally we will use it.
>
We have a page here: http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/
I think you would link the social media account to the main official website.
> I understand that is necessary to have all efforts more close possible
> related to AOO, but in many times, we haven't this velocity and this
> can't be a barrier for new volunteers/promoters, IMO.
>
> And i think that this was a good example in OOo, where we had freedom
> to start our regional group, promoting the product and grew because
> hadn't a similar space in Oracle.
>
You still have the freedom to do work outside of Apache, But
obviously that is not officially part of the project. It is external.
It might still do wonderful work. But it is not officially part of
"Apache OpenOffice".
So there is nothing wrong with having both an external
www.escritoriolivre.org community, as well as a Brazilian community
and list within the Apache project. But these are two different
things. We need to avoid confusing users about what is official and
what is not.
I understand that OpenOffice.org did things differently here. In some
sense they compensated for strong corporate control of the code by
giving more autonomy to the NLC. That was how they "achieved peace"
with the community, But we don't have that issue here. At Apache
everyone has equal freedom to work directly within the project.
-Rob
> In other hand, we can (re)discuss this question here.
>
> Best,
> Claudio
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>.
Hi
2012/5/6 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
> And same here. An official project account should be linking back to
> the project website, not to www.escritoriolivre.org.
Rob, remember that we *haven't* infra yet. When we have a pt-br list,
naturally we will use it.
I understand that is necessary to have all efforts more close possible
related to AOO, but in many times, we haven't this velocity and this
can't be a barrier for new volunteers/promoters, IMO.
And i think that this was a good example in OOo, where we had freedom
to start our regional group, promoting the product and grew because
hadn't a similar space in Oracle.
In other hand, we can (re)discuss this question here.
Best,
Claudio
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto
<bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>:
>> > Alessandro, what think edit page G+ for AOOBr ?
>> > As we have an official page in G+, but not yet have the Brazil.
>>
>> Very good, Albino. For brazilian profile is essential this social
>> networks. I think that you can do for pt-BR in Twitter and Identi.ca
>> too. I can "help" you as admin of them.
>>
>> @Rob, do you see some problem with this? I trust in Albino, and he
>> works with me in our localization.
>>
>> Best,
>> Claudio
>>
>
> As no answer came the suggestion, I created the page in the G + AOOBr (and
> more):
>
> Organize:
>
> identi.ca e twitter: @apacheoobr
>
The link is here: http://identi.ca/apacheoobr
I'd like us to be consistent in the branding, so one requests:
Have the link be to http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/ or to
http://www.openoffice.org/ But it should not be going to
http://www.escritoriolivre.org. Part of being an "official" account
is that it promotes the project, not a 3rd party.
> hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
>
> Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
>
Similar here, the "website" should be openoffice.org:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929?sk=info
> G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036
>
And same here. An official project account should be linking back to
the project website, not to www.escritoriolivre.org.
Thanks!
-Rob
> Best,
> Albino
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>.
Hi.
2012/5/1 Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>
> Hi
>
> 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>:
> > Alessandro, what think edit page G+ for AOOBr ?
> > As we have an official page in G+, but not yet have the Brazil.
>
> Very good, Albino. For brazilian profile is essential this social
> networks. I think that you can do for pt-BR in Twitter and Identi.ca
> too. I can "help" you as admin of them.
>
> @Rob, do you see some problem with this? I trust in Albino, and he
> works with me in our localization.
>
> Best,
> Claudio
>
As no answer came the suggestion, I created the page in the G + AOOBr (and
more):
Organize:
identi.ca e twitter: @apacheoobr
hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036
Best,
Albino
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>.
Hi.
I created account AOOBr social networking:
identi.ca and twitter: @apacheoobr
Best,
Albino @bino28
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by luizheli <lu...@gmail.com>.
ok Claudio,
Thanks
Luiz
Em 01-05-2012 12:31, Claudio Filho escreveu:
> 2012/5/1 luizheli <lu...@gmail.com>:
>> I mean that in any case I'm available to help publicize the project
>> whether or not a PPMC member. I think Brazil has a great potential and
>> can work well with Apache OpenOffice.
> Luiz, maybe is a good idea you introduce your self in a new thread.
>
> Best,
> Claudio
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>.
2012/5/1 luizheli <lu...@gmail.com>:
> I mean that in any case I'm available to help publicize the project
> whether or not a PPMC member. I think Brazil has a great potential and
> can work well with Apache OpenOffice.
Luiz, maybe is a good idea you introduce your self in a new thread.
Best,
Claudio
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by luizheli <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hello,
I mean that in any case I'm available to help publicize the project
whether or not a PPMC member. I think Brazil has a great potential and
can work well with Apache OpenOffice.
rgds,
Luiz Oliveira
Em 01-05-2012 11:55, Albino Biasutti Neto escreveu:
> Hi.
>
> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>
>
>> 2012/5/1 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
>>> 1) Do we have a ooo-geral-ptbr mailing list set up already? If not,
>>> I'd recommend starting with that. Having a strong pt_br presence in
>>> the project, to support translation, marketing, communications and
>>> user support is critical. That becomes the base that supports a
>>> successful social media campaign.
>> When i did the request[1], hadn't support from PPCM. I remember that
>> you was volunteer as admin.
>> [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4532
>>
>>
> The create list suggestion Claudio.
>
>
>>> 2) If we do have the mailing list set up already, then I'd recommend
>>> discussing the social media question there as well.
>> Today, our list is here[2], and we coordinate our works there.
>> [2]
>> http://listas.escritoriolivre.org/listinfo.cgi/geral-escritoriolivre.org
>
> Yes, we used this list.
>
>
>>
>>> 3) If Albino (or any other contributor) is trusted and is actively
>>> contributing to the project, then we should ask whether their project
>>> role should reflect that level of contribution. In other words, the
>>> goal is not to put PPMC responsibilities to non-PPMC members. But the
>>> goal is to turn those volunteers who take on additional
>>> responsibilities into PPMC members. See the difference?
>> Absolutely, Rob, and agree.
>>
> Me too, Absolutely Rob.
>
>
>>> 4) Personally, I think we want the social media accounts to be
>>> accountable/answerable to the PPMC. Having them run by active PPMC
>>> members is one way.
>> And i will do. I will be this PPMC member with him.
>>
> Thank you too much.
>
> I can also contribute social networking aoo and aoobr.
>
>
>> Claudio
>>
> Best,
> Albino
>
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>.
Hi.
2012/5/1 Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>
> 2012/5/1 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
> > 1) Do we have a ooo-geral-ptbr mailing list set up already? If not,
> > I'd recommend starting with that. Having a strong pt_br presence in
> > the project, to support translation, marketing, communications and
> > user support is critical. That becomes the base that supports a
> > successful social media campaign.
>
> When i did the request[1], hadn't support from PPCM. I remember that
> you was volunteer as admin.
> [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4532
>
>
The create list suggestion Claudio.
> > 2) If we do have the mailing list set up already, then I'd recommend
> > discussing the social media question there as well.
>
> Today, our list is here[2], and we coordinate our works there.
> [2]
> http://listas.escritoriolivre.org/listinfo.cgi/geral-escritoriolivre.org
Yes, we used this list.
>
>
> > 3) If Albino (or any other contributor) is trusted and is actively
> > contributing to the project, then we should ask whether their project
> > role should reflect that level of contribution. In other words, the
> > goal is not to put PPMC responsibilities to non-PPMC members. But the
> > goal is to turn those volunteers who take on additional
> > responsibilities into PPMC members. See the difference?
>
> Absolutely, Rob, and agree.
>
Me too, Absolutely Rob.
>
> > 4) Personally, I think we want the social media accounts to be
> > accountable/answerable to the PPMC. Having them run by active PPMC
> > members is one way.
>
> And i will do. I will be this PPMC member with him.
>
Thank you too much.
I can also contribute social networking aoo and aoobr.
>
> Claudio
>
Best,
Albino
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>.
2012/5/1 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
> 1) Do we have a ooo-geral-ptbr mailing list set up already? If not,
> I'd recommend starting with that. Having a strong pt_br presence in
> the project, to support translation, marketing, communications and
> user support is critical. That becomes the base that supports a
> successful social media campaign.
When i did the request[1], hadn't support from PPCM. I remember that
you was volunteer as admin.
[1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4532
> 2) If we do have the mailing list set up already, then I'd recommend
> discussing the social media question there as well.
Today, our list is here[2], and we coordinate our works there.
[2]http://listas.escritoriolivre.org/listinfo.cgi/geral-escritoriolivre.org
> 3) If Albino (or any other contributor) is trusted and is actively
> contributing to the project, then we should ask whether their project
> role should reflect that level of contribution. In other words, the
> goal is not to put PPMC responsibilities to non-PPMC members. But the
> goal is to turn those volunteers who take on additional
> responsibilities into PPMC members. See the difference?
Absolutely, Rob, and agree.
> 4) Personally, I think we want the social media accounts to be
> accountable/answerable to the PPMC. Having them run by active PPMC
> members is one way.
And i will do. I will be this PPMC member with him.
Claudio
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>:
>> Alessandro, what think edit page G+ for AOOBr ?
>> As we have an official page in G+, but not yet have the Brazil.
>
> Very good, Albino. For brazilian profile is essential this social
> networks. I think that you can do for pt-BR in Twitter and Identi.ca
> too. I can "help" you as admin of them.
>
> @Rob, do you see some problem with this? I trust in Albino, and he
> works with me in our localization.
>
A few things to consider:
1) Do we have a ooo-geral-ptbr mailing list set up already? If not,
I'd recommend starting with that. Having a strong pt_br presence in
the project, to support translation, marketing, communications and
user support is critical. That becomes the base that supports a
successful social media campaign.
2) If we do have the mailing list set up already, then I'd recommend
discussing the social media question there as well.
3) If Albino (or any other contributor) is trusted and is actively
contributing to the project, then we should ask whether their project
role should reflect that level of contribution. In other words, the
goal is not to put PPMC responsibilities to non-PPMC members. But the
goal is to turn those volunteers who take on additional
responsibilities into PPMC members. See the difference?
4) Personally, I think we want the social media accounts to be
accountable/answerable to the PPMC. Having them run by active PPMC
members is one way. There may be other ways. But again back to #3
above.
-Rob
> Best,
> Claudio
Re: Pages in the social media
Posted by Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>.
Hi
2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>:
> Alessandro, what think edit page G+ for AOOBr ?
> As we have an official page in G+, but not yet have the Brazil.
Very good, Albino. For brazilian profile is essential this social
networks. I think that you can do for pt-BR in Twitter and Identi.ca
too. I can "help" you as admin of them.
@Rob, do you see some problem with this? I trust in Albino, and he
works with me in our localization.
Best,
Claudio