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Posted to taglibs-dev@jakarta.apache.org by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net> on 2002/10/19 03:49:52 UTC
[VOTE] modify taglibs common.xml build to put "taglibs-" as jar file
name prefix
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Martin Cooper wrote:
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>
>>Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:48:52 -0700
>>From: Martin Cooper <ma...@tumbleweed.com>
>>Reply-To: Tag Libraries Developers List <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>To: 'Tag Libraries Developers List' <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>Subject: RE: Jar names
>>
>>
>>
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@generationjava.com]
>>>Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:14 AM
>>>To: Tag Libraries Developers List
>>>Subject: Jar names
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Anyone else thinking that having the taglib jars just use the
>>>project name
>>>is a bit daft?
>>>
>>>standard.jar
>>>string.jar
>>>
>>>they're a bit on the vague side aren't they?
>>
>>Yes, they are, and so likely to run into conflicts.
>>
>>
>>>Anyone in favour of changing to something like
>>>
>>>jakarta-taglibs-standard-1.0.2.jar ?
>>
>>+1 on a prefix. I would suggest just 'taglibs-', though, to match what
>>Commons does (e.g. commons-beanutils.jar).
>>
>>-1 on including the version number in the jar name. There was a huge
>>discussion on this in Commons some time ago, the end result being that the
>>jar names do not include the version number.
>>
>
>
> Agree on both counts.
>
I concur!
The current common taglib build does create a MANIFEST.MF that includes the version,
here is an example from the application taglib nightly build:
Manifest-Version: 1.0
Created-By: Apache Ant 1.5
Name: org.apache.taglibs.application
Comment: Application Tag Library Fri Oct 18 03:41:34 CDT 2002
Implementation-Title: org.apache.taglibs.application
Implementation-Version: 1.0.N20021018
Implementation-Vendor: Apache Software Foundation
Implementation-URL: http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs
The best way to change the jar file names would be to change the
jakarta-taglibs/common.xml ant build to put a taglibs- in front of the name.
Any taglibs which don't use the common build are on their own.
<ballot>
[ ] +1 Change the common build to use a "taglibs-" jar file prefix
[ ] -1 Leave it the way it is
</ballot>
If the vote is ok, I'll make the change to common.xml.
Regards,
Glenn
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Re: [VOTE] modify taglibs common.xml build to put "taglibs-" as
jarfilename prefix
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
The jar file MANIFEST.MF has more details on the origin of the jar
and the .tld has information about the origins of the tld.
The only real purpose for adding a prefix is to use a name which
ties the taglib to the Jakarta-Taglibs project and would minimize
name conflicts with other jar files or tld's.
I think the prefix "taglibs-" does that sufficiently.
I'll make the change to the build for generating the .tld files.
Regards,
Glenn
Henri Yandell wrote:
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> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Shawn Bayern wrote:
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>>On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Henri Yandell wrote:
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>>>Makes sense. +1
>>
>>+1 for me too. (The 'taglibs-xxx.tld' names might seem redundant to those
>>who don't realize 'taglibs' refers to our project name, but that's not a
>>big deal.)
>
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> It is a bit silly. jk_taglibs-xxx.tld? jakarta-taglibs-xxx.tld?
>
> mod_jk is a bit of a precedent for just using jk :)
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Re: [VOTE] modify taglibs common.xml build to put "taglibs-" as
jarfilename prefix
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Shawn Bayern wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Henri Yandell wrote:
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> > Makes sense. +1
>
> +1 for me too. (The 'taglibs-xxx.tld' names might seem redundant to those
> who don't realize 'taglibs' refers to our project name, but that's not a
> big deal.)
It is a bit silly. jk_taglibs-xxx.tld? jakarta-taglibs-xxx.tld?
mod_jk is a bit of a precedent for just using jk :)
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Re: [VOTE] modify taglibs common.xml build to put "taglibs-" as
jarfilename prefix
Posted by Shawn Bayern <ba...@essentially.net>.
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Henri Yandell wrote:
> Makes sense. +1
+1 for me too. (The 'taglibs-xxx.tld' names might seem redundant to those
who don't realize 'taglibs' refers to our project name, but that's not a
big deal.)
Shawn
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Re: [VOTE] modify taglibs common.xml build to put "taglibs-" as
jarfilename prefix
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Pierre Delisle wrote:
> Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> >
> > A separate issue, should we also change the *.tld names to be for
> > example taglibs-request.tld instead of request.tld?
>
> Would be nice to be consistent... +1.
Makes sense. +1
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Re: [VOTE] modify taglibs common.xml build to put "taglibs-" as
jarfilename prefix
Posted by Pierre Delisle <pi...@sun.com>.
Glenn Nielsen wrote:
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> I am going through jakarta-taglibs and finding all the places where
> this needs to be changed. Changing common.xml just changed the creation
> on the taglib jar file. There are some taglibs that depend on other taglibs
> for their examples, I have had to update their builds also.
>
> A separate issue, should we also change the *.tld names to be for
> example taglibs-request.tld instead of request.tld?
Would be nice to be consistent... +1.
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Re: [VOTE] modify taglibs common.xml build to put "taglibs-" as jar
filename prefix
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
I am going through jakarta-taglibs and finding all the places where
this needs to be changed. Changing common.xml just changed the creation
on the taglib jar file. There are some taglibs that depend on other taglibs
for their examples, I have had to update their builds also.
A separate issue, should we also change the *.tld names to be for
example taglibs-request.tld instead of request.tld?
Regards,
Glenn
Pierre Delisle wrote:
>><ballot>
>> [X] +1 Change the common build to use a "taglibs-" jar file prefix
>> [ ] -1 Leave it the way it is
>></ballot>
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Re: [VOTE] modify taglibs common.xml build to put "taglibs-" as jar
filename prefix
Posted by Pierre Delisle <pi...@sun.com>.
> <ballot>
> [X] +1 Change the common build to use a "taglibs-" jar file prefix
> [ ] -1 Leave it the way it is
> </ballot>
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Re: [VOTE] modify taglibs common.xml build to put "taglibs-" as jar
file name prefix
Posted by Shawn Bayern <ba...@essentially.net>.
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> The best way to change the jar file names would be to change the
> jakarta-taglibs/common.xml ant build to put a taglibs- in front of the
> name. Any taglibs which don't use the common build are on their own.
Agreed, though we should eventually follow suit in the other libraries as
a matter of policy.
> <ballot>
> [ ] +1 Change the common build to use a "taglibs-" jar file prefix
> [ ] -1 Leave it the way it is
> </ballot>
I'm +1 on this.
Shawn
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Re: [VOTE] modify taglibs common.xml build to put "taglibs-" as jar
file name prefix
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> <ballot>
> [ X ] +1 Change the common build to use a "taglibs-" jar file prefix
> [ ] -1 Leave it the way it is
> </ballot>
>
> If the vote is ok, I'll make the change to common.xml.
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