Re: [SUGGESTION] translation services

[Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>]

Hi -

Just a note that these pages are the responsibility of different groups and I was somewhat surprised to see this discussion. In addition there are links to other pages. I'm not indifferent, I'm just curious why this kind of effort goes here? (Note I'm not subscribed.)

Also, many of the Chinese in the Incubator seem to prefer to write English. These projects would not be in the Incubator if the communities (or donors) did not want global communities.

Suggest that there be some discussions face to face at Apachecon regarding these issues.

Regards,
Dave

On 2019/08/29 02:47:08, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> > In the meantime, I'd be happy to explore a short term solution: localization of the most required resources for the incubator.  Could you share a list of the the documents you'd need localized into Chinese? I can source a vendor and get a quote. 
> 
> Some of the incubator pages need a bit of a clean up, which should be done before we consider translating them, but these IMO would be the most important ones:
> 
> Incubator policy page (recently updated)  - https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html 
> Incubator Cookbook (recent work in progress) - https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/
> Incubator Release Management (recently updated) - https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
> 
> And these where some project are having issues (all these probably need to be checked and updated, before being translated):
> Committer + PMC guide - https://incubator.apache.org/guides/committer.html
> Community Building - https://incubator.apache.org/guides/community.html
> Websites - https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> Branding - https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
> 
> Non incubator pages:
> The Apache Way - http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html
> Release policy - http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html
> Assembling license and notice - http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html
> Legal resolved/ 3rd party licensing - https://apache.org/legal/resolved.html
> Code of conduct - http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 

Re: [SUGGESTION] translation services

[Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>]

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 9:31 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi -
>
> Just a note that these pages are the responsibility of different groups
> and I was somewhat surprised to see this discussion. In addition there are
> links to other pages. I'm not indifferent, I'm just curious why this kind
> of effort goes here? (Note I'm not subscribed.)
>

I'm not sure, but I suspect there was just a mistake somewhere along the
way.


> Also, many of the Chinese in the Incubator seem to prefer to write
> English. These projects would not be in the Incubator if the communities
> (or donors) did not want global communities.
>

This matches with my experience too.  Many Chinese *users* might want to
communicate with their projects in Chinese, but the contributors and
committers do seem to prefer to write English.  There is an inherent
conflict there, since users are frequently part of our pipeline to attract
developers to a project.  But there's no perfect solution here, and local
user lists plus English dev lists seems to serve everyone's interests
better than the other possible solutions.

Best,
Myrle