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Posted to dev@hivemall.apache.org by Tsuyoshi Ozawa <oz...@apache.org> on 2016/12/19 13:52:51 UTC

Mailing list to discuss adding committer

Hi all,

Some votes has started to add new committers. I'm happy to hear that,
and thanks Makoto for starting the voting.

However, in other Apache projects, we start to vote about adding
committers in private mailing list since the discussion sometimes
includes sensitive discussion. Is it okay for us? This is just a
confirmation, not a criticism.

If we start to the discussion in private ML, Mentor-related
responsibility/oversight in [1] should be confirmed before starting
it.

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hivemall.html

Thanks,
- Tsuyoshi

Re: Mailing list to discuss adding committer

Posted by Daniel Dai <da...@gmail.com>.
That's great!

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Makoto Yui <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Daniel,
>
> Markus helped creating issues@hivemall.i.a.o.
> So, no need to send the request.
>
> Thanks,
> Makoto
>
> 2016-12-20 14:51 GMT+09:00 Makoto Yui <yu...@gmail.com>:
> > Daniel,
> >
> > Thanks. I was not aware of the existence of private@hivemall.i.a.o.
> > Roman would be the current moderator of the private list (?)
> >
> > I'm requesting to add me as a moderator in
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-13139
> >
> > BTW, could you send a request to add issues@hivemall.i.a.o if possible?
> > (please make <my...@apache.org> as a moderator)
> >
> > It is required for
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-13057
> >
> > Makoto
> >
> > 2016-12-20 4:27 GMT+09:00 Daniel Dai <da...@gmail.com>:
> >> Actually private@hivemall.incubator.apache.org already exist. Please
> use
> >> private-subscribe@hivemall.incubator.apache.org to subscribe.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Daniel Dai <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, committer discussion shall be in private mailing list. Created
> >>> INFRA-13136 for that.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Daniel
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Makoto Yui <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> > Tsuyoshi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for comments.
> >>>>
> >>>> It makes sense to have a private mailing list and move the discussion
> >>>> there.
> >>>> One can hesitate to post -1 on a public list.
> >>>>
> >>>> We need our Mentor's help for creating mailing lists [1] because only
> >>>> ASF member can do that.
> >>>> Creating a issues@hivemall.i.a.o is also a blocking issue in [2].
> >>>>
> >>>> > Daniel (or other mentor),
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you make a ML request on [1]?
> >>>>
> >>>> We would like to have the following two lists:
> >>>>
> >>>>  - private@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (private)
> >>>>  - issues@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (public)
> >>>>
> >>>> Please add myui@apache.org as a Moderator.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
> >>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue
> >>>> /INFRA-13057
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Makoto
> >>>>
> >>>> 2016-12-19 22:52 GMT+09:00 Tsuyoshi Ozawa <oz...@apache.org>:
> >>>> > Hi all,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Some votes has started to add new committers. I'm happy to hear
> that,
> >>>> > and thanks Makoto for starting the voting.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > However, in other Apache projects, we start to vote about adding
> >>>> > committers in private mailing list since the discussion sometimes
> >>>> > includes sensitive discussion. Is it okay for us? This is just a
> >>>> > confirmation, not a criticism.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If we start to the discussion in private ML, Mentor-related
> >>>> > responsibility/oversight in [1] should be confirmed before starting
> >>>> > it.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hivemall.html
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Thanks,
> >>>> > - Tsuyoshi
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>

Re: Mailing list to discuss adding committer

Posted by Makoto Yui <yu...@gmail.com>.
Daniel,

Markus helped creating issues@hivemall.i.a.o.
So, no need to send the request.

Thanks,
Makoto

2016-12-20 14:51 GMT+09:00 Makoto Yui <yu...@gmail.com>:
> Daniel,
>
> Thanks. I was not aware of the existence of private@hivemall.i.a.o.
> Roman would be the current moderator of the private list (?)
>
> I'm requesting to add me as a moderator in
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-13139
>
> BTW, could you send a request to add issues@hivemall.i.a.o if possible?
> (please make <my...@apache.org> as a moderator)
>
> It is required for
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-13057
>
> Makoto
>
> 2016-12-20 4:27 GMT+09:00 Daniel Dai <da...@gmail.com>:
>> Actually private@hivemall.incubator.apache.org already exist. Please use
>> private-subscribe@hivemall.incubator.apache.org to subscribe.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Daniel Dai <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, committer discussion shall be in private mailing list. Created
>>> INFRA-13136 for that.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Makoto Yui <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Tsuyoshi,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for comments.
>>>>
>>>> It makes sense to have a private mailing list and move the discussion
>>>> there.
>>>> One can hesitate to post -1 on a public list.
>>>>
>>>> We need our Mentor's help for creating mailing lists [1] because only
>>>> ASF member can do that.
>>>> Creating a issues@hivemall.i.a.o is also a blocking issue in [2].
>>>>
>>>> > Daniel (or other mentor),
>>>>
>>>> Could you make a ML request on [1]?
>>>>
>>>> We would like to have the following two lists:
>>>>
>>>>  - private@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (private)
>>>>  - issues@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (public)
>>>>
>>>> Please add myui@apache.org as a Moderator.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue
>>>> /INFRA-13057
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Makoto
>>>>
>>>> 2016-12-19 22:52 GMT+09:00 Tsuyoshi Ozawa <oz...@apache.org>:
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> >
>>>> > Some votes has started to add new committers. I'm happy to hear that,
>>>> > and thanks Makoto for starting the voting.
>>>> >
>>>> > However, in other Apache projects, we start to vote about adding
>>>> > committers in private mailing list since the discussion sometimes
>>>> > includes sensitive discussion. Is it okay for us? This is just a
>>>> > confirmation, not a criticism.
>>>> >
>>>> > If we start to the discussion in private ML, Mentor-related
>>>> > responsibility/oversight in [1] should be confirmed before starting
>>>> > it.
>>>> >
>>>> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hivemall.html
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > - Tsuyoshi
>>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: Mailing list to discuss adding committer

Posted by Makoto Yui <yu...@gmail.com>.
Daniel,

Thanks. I was not aware of the existence of private@hivemall.i.a.o.
Roman would be the current moderator of the private list (?)

I'm requesting to add me as a moderator in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-13139

BTW, could you send a request to add issues@hivemall.i.a.o if possible?
(please make <my...@apache.org> as a moderator)

It is required for
https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-13057

Makoto

2016-12-20 4:27 GMT+09:00 Daniel Dai <da...@gmail.com>:
> Actually private@hivemall.incubator.apache.org already exist. Please use
> private-subscribe@hivemall.incubator.apache.org to subscribe.
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Daniel Dai <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, committer discussion shall be in private mailing list. Created
>> INFRA-13136 for that.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Makoto Yui <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> > Tsuyoshi,
>>>
>>> Thank you for comments.
>>>
>>> It makes sense to have a private mailing list and move the discussion
>>> there.
>>> One can hesitate to post -1 on a public list.
>>>
>>> We need our Mentor's help for creating mailing lists [1] because only
>>> ASF member can do that.
>>> Creating a issues@hivemall.i.a.o is also a blocking issue in [2].
>>>
>>> > Daniel (or other mentor),
>>>
>>> Could you make a ML request on [1]?
>>>
>>> We would like to have the following two lists:
>>>
>>>  - private@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (private)
>>>  - issues@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (public)
>>>
>>> Please add myui@apache.org as a Moderator.
>>>
>>> [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue
>>> /INFRA-13057
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Makoto
>>>
>>> 2016-12-19 22:52 GMT+09:00 Tsuyoshi Ozawa <oz...@apache.org>:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > Some votes has started to add new committers. I'm happy to hear that,
>>> > and thanks Makoto for starting the voting.
>>> >
>>> > However, in other Apache projects, we start to vote about adding
>>> > committers in private mailing list since the discussion sometimes
>>> > includes sensitive discussion. Is it okay for us? This is just a
>>> > confirmation, not a criticism.
>>> >
>>> > If we start to the discussion in private ML, Mentor-related
>>> > responsibility/oversight in [1] should be confirmed before starting
>>> > it.
>>> >
>>> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hivemall.html
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > - Tsuyoshi
>>>
>>
>>

Re: Mailing list to discuss adding committer

Posted by Daniel Dai <da...@gmail.com>.
Actually private@hivemall.incubator.apache.org already exist. Please use
private-subscribe@hivemall.incubator.apache.org to subscribe.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Daniel Dai <da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, committer discussion shall be in private mailing list. Created
> INFRA-13136 for that.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Makoto Yui <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> > Tsuyoshi,
>>
>> Thank you for comments.
>>
>> It makes sense to have a private mailing list and move the discussion
>> there.
>> One can hesitate to post -1 on a public list.
>>
>> We need our Mentor's help for creating mailing lists [1] because only
>> ASF member can do that.
>> Creating a issues@hivemall.i.a.o is also a blocking issue in [2].
>>
>> > Daniel (or other mentor),
>>
>> Could you make a ML request on [1]?
>>
>> We would like to have the following two lists:
>>
>>  - private@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (private)
>>  - issues@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (public)
>>
>> Please add myui@apache.org as a Moderator.
>>
>> [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue
>> /INFRA-13057
>>
>> Regards,
>> Makoto
>>
>> 2016-12-19 22:52 GMT+09:00 Tsuyoshi Ozawa <oz...@apache.org>:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Some votes has started to add new committers. I'm happy to hear that,
>> > and thanks Makoto for starting the voting.
>> >
>> > However, in other Apache projects, we start to vote about adding
>> > committers in private mailing list since the discussion sometimes
>> > includes sensitive discussion. Is it okay for us? This is just a
>> > confirmation, not a criticism.
>> >
>> > If we start to the discussion in private ML, Mentor-related
>> > responsibility/oversight in [1] should be confirmed before starting
>> > it.
>> >
>> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hivemall.html
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > - Tsuyoshi
>>
>
>

Re: Mailing list to discuss adding committer

Posted by Daniel Dai <da...@gmail.com>.
Yes, committer discussion shall be in private mailing list. Created
INFRA-13136 for that.

Thanks,
Daniel

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Makoto Yui <my...@apache.org> wrote:

> > Tsuyoshi,
>
> Thank you for comments.
>
> It makes sense to have a private mailing list and move the discussion
> there.
> One can hesitate to post -1 on a public list.
>
> We need our Mentor's help for creating mailing lists [1] because only
> ASF member can do that.
> Creating a issues@hivemall.i.a.o is also a blocking issue in [2].
>
> > Daniel (or other mentor),
>
> Could you make a ML request on [1]?
>
> We would like to have the following two lists:
>
>  - private@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (private)
>  - issues@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (public)
>
> Please add myui@apache.org as a Moderator.
>
> [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/
> issue/INFRA-13057
>
> Regards,
> Makoto
>
> 2016-12-19 22:52 GMT+09:00 Tsuyoshi Ozawa <oz...@apache.org>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Some votes has started to add new committers. I'm happy to hear that,
> > and thanks Makoto for starting the voting.
> >
> > However, in other Apache projects, we start to vote about adding
> > committers in private mailing list since the discussion sometimes
> > includes sensitive discussion. Is it okay for us? This is just a
> > confirmation, not a criticism.
> >
> > If we start to the discussion in private ML, Mentor-related
> > responsibility/oversight in [1] should be confirmed before starting
> > it.
> >
> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hivemall.html
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Tsuyoshi
>

Re: Mailing list to discuss adding committer

Posted by Makoto Yui <my...@apache.org>.
> Tsuyoshi,

Thank you for comments.

It makes sense to have a private mailing list and move the discussion there.
One can hesitate to post -1 on a public list.

We need our Mentor's help for creating mailing lists [1] because only
ASF member can do that.
Creating a issues@hivemall.i.a.o is also a blocking issue in [2].

> Daniel (or other mentor),

Could you make a ML request on [1]?

We would like to have the following two lists:

 - private@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (private)
 - issues@hivemall.incubator.apache.org (public)

Please add myui@apache.org as a Moderator.

[1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-13057

Regards,
Makoto

2016-12-19 22:52 GMT+09:00 Tsuyoshi Ozawa <oz...@apache.org>:
> Hi all,
>
> Some votes has started to add new committers. I'm happy to hear that,
> and thanks Makoto for starting the voting.
>
> However, in other Apache projects, we start to vote about adding
> committers in private mailing list since the discussion sometimes
> includes sensitive discussion. Is it okay for us? This is just a
> confirmation, not a criticism.
>
> If we start to the discussion in private ML, Mentor-related
> responsibility/oversight in [1] should be confirmed before starting
> it.
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hivemall.html
>
> Thanks,
> - Tsuyoshi