Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-catalina/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/authenticator AuthenticatorBase.java

[Costin Manolache <cm...@yahoo.com>]

Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Keith Wannamaker wrote:
> 
>> If no one else is concerned that Tomcat 5.5 doesn't work by default
> 
> 
> Any other nonsensical statement to make ? The only thing that does not 
> work is opening third party documents from the website, due to IE's 
> broken handling of this.
> 
> How about a) going whining at M$ instead ? b) using appropriate 
> configuration.
> 
> Your veto is completely invalid anyway.

IE is still (unfortunately) the browser used by a lot of people, and if
there is a way to work around IE brokeness - I think it's a good idea to 
do it.

Complaining to M$ doesn't work - people will just end up buying IIS 
instead :-)

Seriously, not sure why is the veto invalid - if the choice is between 
having it working for 90% of the people and doing it 'right' - it is 
worth probably more discussion and a pragmatic decision :-) I would vote 
for fixing it for the 90% of people - at least until IE gets down to 
some 49%.

Costin


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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-catalina/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/authenticator AuthenticatorBase.java

[Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>]

Costin Manolache wrote:
> Remy Maucherat wrote:
> 
> IE is still (unfortunately) the browser used by a lot of people, and if
> there is a way to work around IE brokeness - I think it's a good idea to 
> do it.
> 
> Complaining to M$ doesn't work - people will just end up buying IIS 
> instead :-)
> 
> Seriously, not sure why is the veto invalid - if the choice is between 

Because the change is integrated in all 5.x stable releases, and because 
it is just too old. It should be plainly obvious.

> having it working for 90% of the people and doing it 'right' - it is 
> worth probably more discussion and a pragmatic decision :-) I would vote 
> for fixing it for the 90% of people - at least until IE gets down to 
> some 49%.

The issue obviously does not affect 90% of people (if it was, we'd have 
more than a few people complaining, it should be obvious ...), as the IE 
bug is a specific situation, unlike what Keith's FUD would want to show. 
However, it used to completely break Mozilla under SSL (as a compromise, 
I asked for Keith to show good faith and test it again, but all he 
seemed to be interested in is least effort in getting his patch in).

Rémy

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