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ASF hosted machines - proposal
Here is a proposal for the ASF hosted machines to run TCK. Please let
me know if you think changes necessary. Once we get it to a state that
we agree upon, I will forward it to the Geronimo PMC for further
approval and for the PMC to make the request to ASF infra. It would be
great if we could get this to the PMC by Monday, 5/19.
Rational:
The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution and
sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are
necessary gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information is
only available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the Sun NDA
and other Apache committers that have signed an NDA and gained approval
of the Apache Geronimo PMC. As such, this is becoming a resource for
not only the Apache Geronimo but also other ASF projects.
In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private
machines by individuals. As more people become involved with Apache
Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a
central system to run and share the results of these tests.
Request:
To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting the
ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be used
for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two (2) machines
that meet (as closely as possible) the specification below. However, we
can see the need for 2 additional machines in the not too distant future.
Machine specs:
- 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
- 16 GB memory
- two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
- DVD R/W (20x?)
- rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
- LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
- to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
- Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
- configuration
- backup/recovery
- secure access
- Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with
NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved by
Geronimo PMC.
- full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot directions
- At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
- Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine
- Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests, and
produce reports.
- Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.
Joe
Re: ASF hosted machines - proposal
Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
Good points Donald ... comments inline
Donald Woods wrote:
> Joe, thanks for pulling this together. Just a couple more questions -
>
> For the vm images, do we want them behind a NAT or using public IP
> addresses, with the later being important in the request due to an
> additional infrastructure requirement...
I'm not well versed the advantages/disadvantages for these .. but I
suspect NAT is better. comments?
>
> Do we need to mention any network bandwidth requirements or projected
> download/upload amounts?
I'm sure that would be beneficial but I have no idea how to go about
quantifying this. ideas? Perhaps we should just see if they inquire
more about this.
>
> Also, do we want VNC access to the host and guest systems, or only
> access them via ssh?
I think VNC would be beneficial. There are some tests that we've been
running via the UI so if we want to run those tests on these machines it
would be essential. I've added it below.
>
>
> -Donald
>
>
> Joe Bohn wrote:
>> Here is a proposal for the ASF hosted machines to run TCK. Please let
>> me know if you think changes necessary. Once we get it to a state
>> that we agree upon, I will forward it to the Geronimo PMC for further
>> approval and for the PMC to make the request to ASF infra. It would
>> be great if we could get this to the PMC by Monday, 5/19.
>>
>> Rational:
>> The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution and
>> sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are
>> necessary gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information is
>> only available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the Sun
>> NDA and other Apache committers that have signed an NDA and gained
>> approval of the Apache Geronimo PMC. As such, this is becoming a
>> resource for not only the Apache Geronimo but also other ASF projects.
>>
>> In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private
>> machines by individuals. As more people become involved with Apache
>> Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a
>> central system to run and share the results of these tests.
>>
>> Request:
>> To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting the
>> ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be used
>> for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two (2)
>> machines that meet (as closely as possible) the specification below.
>> However, we can see the need for 2 additional machines in the not too
>> distant future.
>>
>> Machine specs:
>> - 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
>> - 16 GB memory
>> - two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
>> - DVD R/W (20x?)
>> - rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
>> - LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
>> - to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
>> - Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
>> - configuration
>> - backup/recovery
>> - secure access
>> - Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with
>> NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved by
>> Geronimo PMC.
>> - full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot
>> directions
>> - At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
>> authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
>> - Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine
- We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
>> - Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests,
>> and produce reports.
>> - Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
Re: ASF hosted machines - proposal
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
Joe, thanks for pulling this together. Just a couple more questions -
For the vm images, do we want them behind a NAT or using public IP
addresses, with the later being important in the request due to an
additional infrastructure requirement...
Do we need to mention any network bandwidth requirements or projected
download/upload amounts?
Also, do we want VNC access to the host and guest systems, or only
access them via ssh?
-Donald
Joe Bohn wrote:
> Here is a proposal for the ASF hosted machines to run TCK. Please let
> me know if you think changes necessary. Once we get it to a state that
> we agree upon, I will forward it to the Geronimo PMC for further
> approval and for the PMC to make the request to ASF infra. It would be
> great if we could get this to the PMC by Monday, 5/19.
>
> Rational:
> The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution and
> sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are
> necessary gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information is
> only available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the Sun NDA
> and other Apache committers that have signed an NDA and gained approval
> of the Apache Geronimo PMC. As such, this is becoming a resource for
> not only the Apache Geronimo but also other ASF projects.
>
> In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private
> machines by individuals. As more people become involved with Apache
> Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a
> central system to run and share the results of these tests.
>
> Request:
> To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting the
> ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be used
> for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two (2) machines
> that meet (as closely as possible) the specification below. However, we
> can see the need for 2 additional machines in the not too distant future.
>
> Machine specs:
> - 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
> - 16 GB memory
> - two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
> - DVD R/W (20x?)
> - rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
> - LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
> - to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
> - Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
> - configuration
> - backup/recovery
> - secure access
> - Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with NDAs
> on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved by
> Geronimo PMC.
> - full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot directions
> - At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
> authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
> - Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine
> - Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests, and
> produce reports.
> - Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.
>
>
> Joe
>
>
Re: ASF hosted machines - proposal
Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
Kevan Miller wrote:
>
> By the way, I volunteer to help admin these beasts.
>
> On May 19, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>
>> Kevan Miller wrote:
>>> Has anybody talked to Infra about virtualization environments,
>>> restrictions, guidance?
>>
>> I exchanged some emails with Justin Erenkrantz and asked about the VM
>> issue. He mentioned that they had VMWare Workstation on one machine.
>> In general, I have the impression that they aren't as concerned about
>> the VM images/environment if we are controlling the machines.
>> However, I suspect we'll get a better feel for that once we submit a
>> request and see their response.
>
> K.
>
>>
>>
>>> Only 4 VM images? With an 8 core, I thought we'd try to allocate a VM
>>> per core...
>>
>> I thought about one per core but ended up with 2 just in case we need
>> it for other related activities. This was also in line with what Matt
>> was recommending. If we increase the # of VMs we would also need to
>> up the memory and possibly diskspace and that really started to look
>> excessive to me. I was just trying to give a high level description
>> of our plans for the machines. I don't think this limits us to just 4
>> VMs. Perhaps instead of requesting additional machines later on we
>> could add any additional resources to get more VMs active on the first
>> 2 machines.
>
> OK. So, this number isn't laid in stone. We'll be tweaking to maximize
> our throughput and usage.
right
>
>>
>>
>>> --kevan
>>> On May 19, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It appears that the discussion has died down on this topic. Here is
>>>> the latest update with some minor changes based upon Donald's
>>>> questions. I plan to send this on to the PMC in the next hour or so
>>>> ... so please speak up if you think of anything additional.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rationale:
>>>> The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution
>>>> and sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are
>>>> necessary
> to
>>>> gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information is only
>>>> available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the Sun NDA
>>>> and other Apache committers that have signed the NDA and gained
>>>> approval of the Apache Geronimo PMC. As such, this is becoming a
>>>> resource for not only the Apache Geronimo but also other ASF projects.
>
> Not sure what is meant by the last sentence.
>
The meaning is that running, managing, and sharing the test harness,
systems, and test results is beneficial to several Apache projects.
Certainly Geronimo is still the primary beneficiary but since we have
opened our test harness and results to other apache projects Geronimo is
not the sole beneficiary. I thought that highlighting this
collaborative effort would improve our chances of getting the machines.
>>>>
>>>> In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private
>>>> machines by individuals. As more people become involved with Apache
>>>> Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a
>>>> central system to run and share the results of these tests.
>
> A centralized testing environment allows the Geronimo community to more
> fully participate in the TCK process. Some committers don't have access
> to the hardware resources needed to run the Java EE TCK tests in a
> timely manner. Although some ad-hoc sharing of private machines has
> occurred, this is not ideal from a community perspective. Community
> controlled systems allow us to equitably share these resources.
Good words ... I'll add this.
>
> --kevan
>
>>>>
>>>> Request:
>>>> To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting
>>>> the ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be
>>>> used for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two (2)
>>>> machines that meet (as closely as possible) the specification
>>>> below. However, we can see the need for 2 additional machines in
>>>> the not too distant future.
>>>>
>>>> Machine specs:
>>>> - 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
>>>> - 16 GB memory
>>>> - two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
>>>> - DVD R/W (20x?)
>>>> - rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
>>>> - LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
>>>> - to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
>>>> - Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
>>>> - configuration
>>>> - backup/recovery
>>>> - secure access
>>>> - Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with
>>>> NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved
>>>> by Geronimo PMC.
>>>> - full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot
>>>> directions
>>>> - At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
>>>> authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
>>>> - Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine
>>>> - We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
>>>> - It is not yet decided if we would use NAT to access the VMs or
>>>> public IP addresses. Is there are recommendation from ASF Infra?
>>>> - Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests,
>>>> and produce reports.
>>>> - Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.
>>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: ASF hosted machines - proposal
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
By the way, I volunteer to help admin these beasts.
On May 19, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
> Kevan Miller wrote:
>> Has anybody talked to Infra about virtualization environments,
>> restrictions, guidance?
>
> I exchanged some emails with Justin Erenkrantz and asked about the
> VM issue. He mentioned that they had VMWare Workstation on one
> machine. In general, I have the impression that they aren't as
> concerned about the VM images/environment if we are controlling the
> machines. However, I suspect we'll get a better feel for that once
> we submit a request and see their response.
K.
>
>
>> Only 4 VM images? With an 8 core, I thought we'd try to allocate a
>> VM per core...
>
> I thought about one per core but ended up with 2 just in case we
> need it for other related activities. This was also in line with
> what Matt was recommending. If we increase the # of VMs we would
> also need to up the memory and possibly diskspace and that really
> started to look excessive to me. I was just trying to give a high
> level description of our plans for the machines. I don't think this
> limits us to just 4 VMs. Perhaps instead of requesting additional
> machines later on we could add any additional resources to get more
> VMs active on the first 2 machines.
OK. So, this number isn't laid in stone. We'll be tweaking to maximize
our throughput and usage.
>
>
>> --kevan
>> On May 19, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>>>
>>> It appears that the discussion has died down on this topic. Here
>>> is the latest update with some minor changes based upon Donald's
>>> questions. I plan to send this on to the PMC in the next hour or
>>> so ... so please speak up if you think of anything additional.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>> Rationale:
>>> The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution
>>> and sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which
>>> are necessary
to
>>> gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information is only
>>> available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the Sun
>>> NDA and other Apache committers that have signed the NDA and
>>> gained approval of the Apache Geronimo PMC. As such, this is
>>> becoming a resource for not only the Apache Geronimo but also
>>> other ASF projects.
Not sure what is meant by the last sentence.
>>>
>>> In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on
>>> private machines by individuals. As more people become involved
>>> with Apache Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious
>>> that we need a central system to run and share the results of
>>> these tests.
A centralized testing environment allows the Geronimo community to
more fully participate in the TCK process. Some committers don't have
access to the hardware resources needed to run the Java EE TCK tests
in a timely manner. Although some ad-hoc sharing of private machines
has occurred, this is not ideal from a community perspective.
Community controlled systems allow us to equitably share these
resources.
--kevan
>>>
>>> Request:
>>> To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting
>>> the ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can
>>> be used for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two
>>> (2) machines that meet (as closely as possible) the specification
>>> below. However, we can see the need for 2 additional machines in
>>> the not too distant future.
>>>
>>> Machine specs:
>>> - 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
>>> - 16 GB memory
>>> - two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
>>> - DVD R/W (20x?)
>>> - rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
>>> - LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
>>> - to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
>>> - Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
>>> - configuration
>>> - backup/recovery
>>> - secure access
>>> - Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with
>>> NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and
>>> approved by Geronimo PMC.
>>> - full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot
>>> directions
>>> - At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
>>> authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
>>> - Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine
>>> - We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
>>> - It is not yet decided if we would use NAT to access the VMs or
>>> public IP addresses. Is there are recommendation from ASF Infra?
>>> - Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute
>>> tests, and produce reports.
>>> - Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be
>>> supported.
>>>
>
Re: ASF hosted machines - proposal
Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
Kevan Miller wrote:
> Has anybody talked to Infra about virtualization environments,
> restrictions, guidance?
I exchanged some emails with Justin Erenkrantz and asked about the VM
issue. He mentioned that they had VMWare Workstation on one machine.
In general, I have the impression that they aren't as concerned about
the VM images/environment if we are controlling the machines. However,
I suspect we'll get a better feel for that once we submit a request and
see their response.
>
> Only 4 VM images? With an 8 core, I thought we'd try to allocate a VM
> per core...
I thought about one per core but ended up with 2 just in case we need it
for other related activities. This was also in line with what Matt was
recommending. If we increase the # of VMs we would also need to up the
memory and possibly diskspace and that really started to look excessive
to me. I was just trying to give a high level description of our plans
for the machines. I don't think this limits us to just 4 VMs. Perhaps
instead of requesting additional machines later on we could add any
additional resources to get more VMs active on the first 2 machines.
>
> --kevan
> On May 19, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>
>>
>> It appears that the discussion has died down on this topic. Here is
>> the latest update with some minor changes based upon Donald's
>> questions. I plan to send this on to the PMC in the next hour or so
>> ... so please speak up if you think of anything additional.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> Rationale:
>> The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution and
>> sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are
>> necessary gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information is
>> only available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the Sun
>> NDA and other Apache committers that have signed an NDA and gained
>> approval of the Apache Geronimo PMC. As such, this is becoming a
>> resource for not only the Apache Geronimo but also other ASF projects.
>>
>> In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private
>> machines by individuals. As more people become involved with Apache
>> Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a
>> central system to run and share the results of these tests.
>>
>> Request:
>> To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting the
>> ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be used
>> for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two (2)
>> machines that meet (as closely as possible) the specification below.
>> However, we can see the need for 2 additional machines in the not too
>> distant future.
>>
>> Machine specs:
>> - 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
>> - 16 GB memory
>> - two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
>> - DVD R/W (20x?)
>> - rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
>> - LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
>> - to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
>> - Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
>> - configuration
>> - backup/recovery
>> - secure access
>> - Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with
>> NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved by
>> Geronimo PMC.
>> - full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot
>> directions
>> - At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
>> authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
>> - Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine
>> - We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
>> - It is not yet decided if we would use NAT to access the VMs or
>> public IP addresses. Is there are recommendation from ASF Infra?
>> - Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests,
>> and produce reports.
>> - Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.
>
>
Re: ASF hosted machines - proposal
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
Has anybody talked to Infra about virtualization environments,
restrictions, guidance?
Only 4 VM images? With an 8 core, I thought we'd try to allocate a VM
per core...
--kevan
On May 19, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>
> It appears that the discussion has died down on this topic. Here is
> the latest update with some minor changes based upon Donald's
> questions. I plan to send this on to the PMC in the next hour or
> so ... so please speak up if you think of anything additional.
>
> Thank you,
> Joe
>
>
> Rationale:
> The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution
> and sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are
> necessary gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information
> is only available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the
> Sun NDA and other Apache committers that have signed an NDA and
> gained approval of the Apache Geronimo PMC. As such, this is
> becoming a resource for not only the Apache Geronimo but also other
> ASF projects.
>
> In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private
> machines by individuals. As more people become involved with Apache
> Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a
> central system to run and share the results of these tests.
>
> Request:
> To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting
> the ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be
> used for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two (2)
> machines that meet (as closely as possible) the specification
> below. However, we can see the need for 2 additional machines in
> the not too distant future.
>
> Machine specs:
> - 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
> - 16 GB memory
> - two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
> - DVD R/W (20x?)
> - rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
> - LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
> - to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
> - Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
> - configuration
> - backup/recovery
> - secure access
> - Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with
> NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved
> by Geronimo PMC.
> - full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot
> directions
> - At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
> authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
> - Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine
> - We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
> - It is not yet decided if we would use NAT to access the VMs or
> public IP addresses. Is there are recommendation from ASF Infra?
> - Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests,
> and produce reports.
> - Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.
Re: ASF hosted machines - proposal
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On May 19, 2008, at 10:32 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>
> I had posted this proposal on the PMC list when Kevan pointed out
> that we should really seek PMC approval on the dev list for this item.
>
> Below is an updated version of the proposal. It incorporates
> Kevan's most recent comments.
>
> What is the best way to gain PMC approval on the dev list? A vote
> is the only thing I can think of ... any other suggestions?
Call a vote on it.
A few final suggestions...
>
>
>
>
>
> Rationale:
> The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution
> and sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are
> necessary gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information
> is only available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the
> Sun NDA and other Apache committers that have signed an NDA and
> gained approval of the Apache Geronimo PMC.
This has allowed other projects to test new products/releases by
running JavaEE 5 TCK tests using the Geronimo test infrastructure.
>
> In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private
> machines by individuals. As more people become involved with Apache
> Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a
> central system to run and share the results of these tests. A
> centralized testing environment allows the Geronimo community to
> more fully participate in the TCK process. Some committers don't
> have access to the hardware resources needed to run the Java EE TCK
> tests in a timely manner. Although some ad-hoc sharing of private
> machines has occurred, this is not ideal from a community
> perspective. Community controlled systems allow us to equitably
> share these resources.
>
> Request:
> To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting
> the ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be
> used for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two (2)
> machines that meet (as closely as possible) the specification
> below. However, we can see the need for 2 additional machines in
> the not too distant future.
>
> Machine specs:
> - 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
> - 16 GB memory
> - two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
> - DVD R/W (20x?)
> - rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
> - LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
> - to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
> - Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
> - configuration
> - backup/recovery
> - secure access
> - Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with
> NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved
> by Geronimo PMC.
> - full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot
> directions
> - At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
> authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
> - Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per
> machine. We may increase the number of VM images if it is feasible.
> - We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
> - It is not yet decided if we would use NAT to access the VMs or
> public IP addresses. Is there are recommendation from ASF Infra?
> - Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests,
> and produce reports.
> - Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.
Admin Volunteers:
- Joe Bohn (PMC)
- Jay McHugh (PMC)
- Jason Warner
- Matt Hogstrom (PMC)
- Kevan Miller (PMC)
--kevan
Re: ASF hosted machines - proposal
Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
I had posted this proposal on the PMC list when Kevan pointed out that
we should really seek PMC approval on the dev list for this item.
Below is an updated version of the proposal. It incorporates Kevan's
most recent comments.
What is the best way to gain PMC approval on the dev list? A vote is
the only thing I can think of ... any other suggestions?
Rationale:
The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution and
sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are
necessary gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information is
only available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the Sun NDA
and other Apache committers that have signed an NDA and gained approval
of the Apache Geronimo PMC.
In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private
machines by individuals. As more people become involved with Apache
Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a
central system to run and share the results of these tests. A
centralized testing environment allows the Geronimo community to more
fully participate in the TCK process. Some committers don't have access
to the hardware resources needed to run the Java EE TCK tests in a
timely manner. Although some ad-hoc sharing of private machines has
occurred, this is not ideal from a community perspective. Community
controlled systems allow us to equitably share these resources.
Request:
To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting the
ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be used
for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two (2) machines
that meet (as closely as possible) the specification below. However, we
can see the need for 2 additional machines in the not too distant future.
Machine specs:
- 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
- 16 GB memory
- two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
- DVD R/W (20x?)
- rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
- LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
- to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
- Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
- configuration
- backup/recovery
- secure access
- Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with
NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved by
Geronimo PMC.
- full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot directions
- At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
- Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine. We
may increase the number of VM images if it is feasible.
- We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
- It is not yet decided if we would use NAT to access the VMs or
public IP addresses. Is there are recommendation from ASF Infra?
- Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests, and
produce reports.
- Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.
Re: ASF hosted machines - proposal
Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
It appears that the discussion has died down on this topic. Here is the
latest update with some minor changes based upon Donald's questions. I
plan to send this on to the PMC in the next hour or so ... so please
speak up if you think of anything additional.
Thank you,
Joe
Rationale:
The Apache Geronimo community has a need to support the execution and
sharing of results from Sun certification tests (cts) which are
necessary gain JavaEE5 certification compliance. This information is
only available to those Geronimo committers that have signed the Sun NDA
and other Apache committers that have signed an NDA and gained approval
of the Apache Geronimo PMC. As such, this is becoming a resource for
not only the Apache Geronimo but also other ASF projects.
In the past these resource intensive tests have been run on private
machines by individuals. As more people become involved with Apache
Geronimo and related projects, it is becoming obvious that we need a
central system to run and share the results of these tests.
Request:
To fulfill this requirement, the Apache Geronimo PMC is requesting the
ASF infrastructure team to provide and host machines that can be used
for this purpose. Initially, we would like to request two (2) machines
that meet (as closely as possible) the specification below. However, we
can see the need for 2 additional machines in the not too distant future.
Machine specs:
- 8 core (two 3.0 GHz quad-core)
- 16 GB memory
- two 750GB 7200 - rpm SATA 3GB/s disks
- DVD R/W (20x?)
- rack mountable specification to work with ASF infra requirements
- LOM or other features as necessary for ASF infra support
- to be developer managed and maintained by the Apache Geronimo Team
- Apache Geronimo would assume all responsibility for:
- configuration
- backup/recovery
- secure access
- Strictly limited to those Apache Geronimo committers with
NDAs on file or additional Apache committers with NDAs and approved by
Geronimo PMC.
- full, admin access would be granted to ASF infra with reboot directions
- At least 2 active Apache Geronimo committers (with NDA
authorization) would identified to manage the machines.
- Running Linux with something like Xen for 4 VM images per machine
- We would require both ssh and VNC access to the VMs.
- It is not yet decided if we would use NAT to access the VMs or
public IP addresses. Is there are recommendation from ASF Infra?
- Automation will most likely be added to run builds, execute tests, and
produce reports.
- Capability to manually run tests on demand would also be supported.