Using the new CMS for our sites

[Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com>]

Hi

As you might be aware, ASF is phasing out Confluence as a CMS (but
keeping it as a wiki). Instead, a new, custom-built CMS has been put
in place. Read more here:
http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010

Sooner or later we are going to have to move our sites over to the new
CMS. Unless anyone objects, I would like to switch the Vysper site
over as a first try.

/niklas

Re: Using the new CMS for our sites

[Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@apache.org>]

On 2/25/11 8:16 AM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny<el...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On 2/24/11 9:57 PM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote:
>>> Sooner or later we are going to have to move our sites over to the new
>>> CMS.
>> No. The new CMS is mainly used for the Apache main sites, nothing forces us
>> to use it in the near future, nor in the long term.
> The plan, as far as I'm aware, is still to phase out Confluence as a CMS:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#confluence-phaseout
>
> The auto-export plugin is now supported by Atlassian, but at a very
> old version which is not usable at ASF. Not sure if this is going to
> change things anyways.

I read that a little bit differently : it's a typical NIH syndrom from 
the infra peeps. They *want* to phase out Confluence because it's a tool 
they don't like and they have to maintain. However, I think that instead 
of spending 3 months developping a own home brew solution, they would 
have whipped the auto-export plugin in 2 weeks. I'm not blaming them 
though, but I just think that the auto-export plugin is currently just 
doing its job, so I don't see what is the problem they have today with 
confluence (remember that this page has been written 3 months ago, and 
Daniel Kulp has fixed the auto-export plugin AFAIR).

I may be totally wrong in my perception of the problem though. But in 
any case, I see the migration from confluence as a non urgent thing. I 
have used the internal CMS, and trust me, it's way far from Confluence 
functionalities. It may be good enough for simple pages like the one we 
have on the main apache page, but I would rather continue to use 
Confluence for MINA. Switching to the new CMS would be like coming back 
to moinmoin...

Now, if Vysper wants to move to the new CMS, it's your call, not mine, 
and I'll certainly not -1 a vote if it's called.



-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com

Re: Using the new CMS for our sites

[Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com>]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/24/11 9:57 PM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote:
>> Sooner or later we are going to have to move our sites over to the new
>> CMS.
>
> No. The new CMS is mainly used for the Apache main sites, nothing forces us
> to use it in the near future, nor in the long term.

The plan, as far as I'm aware, is still to phase out Confluence as a CMS:
http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#confluence-phaseout

The auto-export plugin is now supported by Atlassian, but at a very
old version which is not usable at ASF. Not sure if this is going to
change things anyways.

/niklas

Re: Using the new CMS for our sites

[Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>]

On 2/24/11 9:57 PM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote:
> Hi
>
> As you might be aware, ASF is phasing out Confluence as a CMS (but
> keeping it as a wiki). Instead, a new, custom-built CMS has been put
> in place. Read more here:
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
>
> Sooner or later we are going to have to move our sites over to the new
> CMS.
No. The new CMS is mainly used for the Apache main sites, nothing forces 
us to use it in the near future, nor in the long term.

It's really up to us to decide if we want to switch and use it.
> Unless anyone objects, I would like to switch the Vysper site
> over as a first try.
+1 for this. Your call.


-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com

Re: Using the new CMS for our sites

[Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de>]

On 24.02.11 21:57, Niklas Gustavsson wrote:
> Hi
>
> As you might be aware, ASF is phasing out Confluence as a CMS (but
> keeping it as a wiki). Instead, a new, custom-built CMS has been put
> in place. Read more here:
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
>
> Sooner or later we are going to have to move our sites over to the new
> CMS. Unless anyone objects, I would like to switch the Vysper site
> over as a first try.

ok for me. go ahead. have fun.

   Bernd