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[Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
RE: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by mw...@apache.org.
The wiki format is a bit funky, but once you get going with it you can
create some cool pages. I just wrote a chunk about the log4j xml
configuration file format. I'm no wiki expert, but I'm pretty happy with
how it is turning out so far.
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JXmlFormat
Can't wait to see what the log4j users do with this.
thanks again!
-Mark
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RE: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by mw...@apache.org.
Is there anyway we can test this on a small scale first? I'll be happy to
help out with it...
-Mark
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> >
> >>Thanks for setting this up!
> >>
> >>Any idea why the "Log4JProjectPages" show us as "JProjectPages"?
> >>
> >>-Mark
> >>
> >>
> >
> >According to my interpretation of
> >http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiWord Log4JProjectPages
> should be
> >fine. To force it to work you can surround it with double
> square brackets.
> >You will in effect be creating a replacement page for
> JProjectPages, so make
> >sure you copy the content over.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Scott
> >
> >
>
> There is a config for "Non English characters" in wiki words... I was
> afraid to turn it on, not knowing what the implications
> are (why *wouldn't* one want them?) or why they are off by default. If
> those who know best generally agree,
> I'll turn them on... I suspect 4 may be "non english"...
>
> -Andy
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Re: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
mwomack@apache.org wrote:
>[sorry, I reference the wrong text in the previous message...]
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>>Of course, it would eventually be even better if the wiki could let you do
>>the equivalent of <a href="">Some text for the link</a> so that we don't
>>NeedToHaveTextAllJumbledTogetherForALink.
>>
>>
>
>The more I think about it, the more I like this kind of format:
>
><wiki-a ref="ANormalWikiRef">Some text for the anchor</wiki-a>
>
>That way it can reference normal wiki pages. But I don't know how to patch
>the existing code. Maybe some other else can help?
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That question is also very well documented :-)
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheWiki
>Happy Holidays!
>-Mark
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RE: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by mw...@apache.org.
[sorry, I reference the wrong text in the previous message...]
> Of course, it would eventually be even better if the wiki could let you do
> the equivalent of <a href="">Some text for the link</a> so that we don't
> NeedToHaveTextAllJumbledTogetherForALink.
The more I think about it, the more I like this kind of format:
<wiki-a ref="ANormalWikiRef">Some text for the anchor</wiki-a>
That way it can reference normal wiki pages. But I don't know how to patch
the existing code. Maybe some other else can help?
Happy Holidays!
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RE: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by mw...@apache.org.
> Also, is there any way to delete pages from the wiki? I'd like to remove
> the "JProjectPages" so that it does not show up in searches. Just remove
> all the contents?
The more I think about it, the more I like this kind of format:
<wiki-a ref="ANormalWikiRef">Some text for the anchor</wiki-a>
That way it can reference normal wiki pages. But I don't know how to patch
the existing code. Maybe some other else can help?
Happy Holidays!
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Re: Unatural Wiki Link (was: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)])
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
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>
>
>would get processed into:
>
><a
>href="http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?NormalWikiLikeLink">The
>text to attach the link to</a>
>
>If I was more proficient at perl I would have already made a patch. But I'm
>not, so I haven't. Sorry, but perl is not my bag. Now, if it was a JSP or
>Java, that would be a different story...:-)
>
>
PERL is just like JSP more or less (I like PERL better I think). If
this were really that important to you, you'd do it. PERL is easy to write.
What's more amusing is that from what it looks there is an equivilent
one character configuration fix ;-) -- However, I think I'll be a prick
about this and make you at least find it and send me a patch just
because its good for you.
Source is here: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheWiki
It took me all of 30 seconds to find. I'll give you a boon, I searched
on the word "wiki" ;-)
-jAndy.NET.pl
>-Mark
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RE: Unatural Wiki Link (was: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)])
Posted by mw...@apache.org.
> > Of course, it would eventually be even better if the wiki could
> let you do
> > the equivalent of <a href="">Some text for the link</a> so that we don't
> > NeedToHaveTextAllJumbledTogetherForALink.
> Um, the whole point of a wiki is that it should be abnormally
> easy to create
> things such as new pages and links to them - the very basis of this is the
> concept of a WikiWord.
I don't want to make it hard to create new pages and link them. I just
think that ThisIsVeryUnnatural in the web world. What is wrong with wanting
to attach a wiki-like link to readable text? I'm surprised that this has
not come up with wiki before.
Plus, it can still be a wiki link. They already support
"[http://somehost/somelink ThisIsALink]". Plus the wiki processor is
already on the lookout for other embedded tags like <pre>, <tt>, etc. So,
going to the extra effort of calling out the text to attach a link to isn't
much of a leap, in my mind.
<wiki-a ref="NormalWikiLikeLink">The text to attach the link to</wiki-a>
would get processed into:
<a
href="http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?NormalWikiLikeLink">The
text to attach the link to</a>
If I was more proficient at perl I would have already made a patch. But I'm
not, so I haven't. Sorry, but perl is not my bag. Now, if it was a JSP or
Java, that would be a different story...:-)
-Mark
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Re: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by Scott Eade <se...@backstagetech.com.au>.
On 25/12/2002 4:46 AM, "mwomack@apache.org" <mw...@apache.org> wrote:
> A little wiki bird left a posting on the "JProjectPages" about how to change
> it to "Log4JProjectPages". On the page, put it as "[[Log4JProjectPages]]".
> It works. Thank you little wiki bird. I have updated the relevant links.
Tweet tweet!
>
> Of course, it would eventually be even better if the wiki could let you do
> the equivalent of <a href="">Some text for the link</a> so that we don't
> NeedToHaveTextAllJumbledTogetherForALink.
Um, the whole point of a wiki is that it should be abnormally easy to create
things such as new pages and links to them - the very basis of this is the
concept of a WikiWord.
>
> Also, is there any way to delete pages from the wiki? I'd like to remove
> the "JProjectPages" so that it does not show up in searches. Just remove
> all the contents?
No way to delete - you need to be able to recover if someone anonymously
deletes something you want to keep. Just delete the content.
>
> -Mark
Cheers,
Scott
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RE: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by mw...@apache.org.
A little wiki bird left a posting on the "JProjectPages" about how to change
it to "Log4JProjectPages". On the page, put it as "[[Log4JProjectPages]]".
It works. Thank you little wiki bird. I have updated the relevant links.
Of course, it would eventually be even better if the wiki could let you do
the equivalent of <a href="">Some text for the link</a> so that we don't
NeedToHaveTextAllJumbledTogetherForALink.
Also, is there any way to delete pages from the wiki? I'd like to remove
the "JProjectPages" so that it does not show up in searches. Just remove
all the contents?
-Mark
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> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 8:18 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
>
>
> >
> >
> >>Thanks for setting this up!
> >>
> >>Any idea why the "Log4JProjectPages" show us as "JProjectPages"?
> >>
> >>-Mark
> >>
> >>
> >
> >According to my interpretation of
> >http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiWord Log4JProjectPages
> should be
> >fine. To force it to work you can surround it with double
> square brackets.
> >You will in effect be creating a replacement page for
> JProjectPages, so make
> >sure you copy the content over.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Scott
> >
> >
>
> There is a config for "Non English characters" in wiki words... I was
> afraid to turn it on, not knowing what the implications
> are (why *wouldn't* one want them?) or why they are off by default. If
> those who know best generally agree,
> I'll turn them on... I suspect 4 may be "non english"...
>
> -Andy
>
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Re: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
>
>
>>Thanks for setting this up!
>>
>>Any idea why the "Log4JProjectPages" show us as "JProjectPages"?
>>
>>-Mark
>>
>>
>
>According to my interpretation of
>http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiWord Log4JProjectPages should be
>fine. To force it to work you can surround it with double square brackets.
>You will in effect be creating a replacement page for JProjectPages, so make
>sure you copy the content over.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Scott
>
>
There is a config for "Non English characters" in wiki words... I was
afraid to turn it on, not knowing what the implications
are (why *wouldn't* one want them?) or why they are off by default. If
those who know best generally agree,
I'll turn them on... I suspect 4 may be "non english"...
-Andy
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Re: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by Scott Eade <se...@backstagetech.com.au>.
On 22/12/2002 2:15 PM, "mwomack@apache.org" <mw...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks for setting this up!
>
> Any idea why the "Log4JProjectPages" show us as "JProjectPages"?
>
> -Mark
According to my interpretation of
http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiWord Log4JProjectPages should be
fine. To force it to work you can surround it with double square brackets.
You will in effect be creating a replacement page for JProjectPages, so make
sure you copy the content over.
Cheers,
Scott
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RE: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?HomePage
I changed it a bit, but it adds [] around the link. This also doesn't
help with showing as "JProjectPages"....guess you can always rename,
copy and paste.
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when you do, it blows away your whole leg."
- Bjarne Stroustrup
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> Thanks for setting this up!
>
> Any idea why the "Log4JProjectPages" show us as "JProjectPages"?
>
> -Mark
>
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RE: [Fwd: Wiki Wiki (has been set up)]
Posted by mw...@apache.org.
Thanks for setting this up!
Any idea why the "Log4JProjectPages" show us as "JProjectPages"?
-Mark
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