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Posted to dev@metron.apache.org by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> on 2017/04/11 21:38:32 UTC

[DISCUSS] Extracting Stellar as a component/module

Hi all,
This is a new discussion thread, and if the proposed change is accepted by the community, it will be submitted to the next release, not the current 0.4.0 branch.

Stellar has 126 verbs today, and seems only likely to continue growing.  Furthermore, we expect Stellar to be extended by users, and probably grow into having one or more Registry/ Repositories, etc.  All this suggests that we should start viewing Stellar itself as a component, and make sure it is maintainable and has clean interfaces to the rest of the system.  And that will be easier if we extract it into its own module, both in the code tree and in maven.

I’ve written a combination proposal / discussion about how to extract Stellar from its current deep embed in Metron.  Comments are welcome, and encouraged.  Please read:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EP7Jt4ePHe2A-_oboLl2QbN1muh7uKeET_kbpIgjcJM/edit#heading=h.4vsrmths49wk

I believe I’ve set access so anyone can read and comment on it.  However, google docs may still ask you log in with a google-registered email address.  If this is a problem for anyone, let me know and I can send you a Word document.

Thanks,
--Matt

Re: [DISCUSS] Extracting Stellar as a component/module

Posted by Casey Stella <ce...@gmail.com>.
I'm ok with google docs as long as when consensus is reached, it lives in
the wiki.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> I’ve copied it to the cwiki, but the thing is that cwiki only allows
> comments at the bottom.  With a long doc like this, that’s not very good.
> I’d much rather keep everyone’s comments in the same system, and local to
> the text they’re commenting on.
>
>
>
> Is it okay to leave this in google doc?
>
>
>
> If anyone can’t abide logging in to google, the cwiki version is here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/METRON/
> Extracting+Stellar+into+an+Independent+Module
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Matt
>
>
>
> On 4/11/17, 3:15 PM, "Matt Foley" <mf...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> No, actually you’re right.  Will have it moved over shortly.
>
>
>
>     On 4/11/17, 2:56 PM, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>         Nevermind
>
>
>
>
>
>         On April 11, 2017 at 17:47:57, Otto Fowler (
> ottobackwards@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>
>
>         Can’t we do this in confluence?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         On April 11, 2017 at 17:38:40, Matt Foley (mattf@apache.org)
> wrote:
>
>
>
>         Hi all,
>
>         This is a new discussion thread, and if the proposed change is
> accepted by
>
>         the community, it will be submitted to the next release, not the
> current
>
>         0.4.0 branch.
>
>
>
>         Stellar has 126 verbs today, and seems only likely to continue
> growing.
>
>         Furthermore, we expect Stellar to be extended by users, and
> probably grow
>
>         into having one or more Registry/ Repositories, etc. All this
> suggests that
>
>         we should start viewing Stellar itself as a component, and make
> sure it is
>
>         maintainable and has clean interfaces to the rest of the system.
> And that
>
>         will be easier if we extract it into its own module, both in the
> code tree
>
>         and in maven.
>
>
>
>         I’ve written a combination proposal / discussion about how to
> extract
>
>         Stellar from its current deep embed in Metron. Comments are
> welcome, and
>
>         encouraged. Please read:
>
>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EP7Jt4ePHe2A-_
> oboLl2QbN1muh7uKeET_kbpIgjcJM/edit#heading=h.4vsrmths49wk
>
>
>
>         I believe I’ve set access so anyone can read and comment on it.
> However,
>
>         google docs may still ask you log in with a google-registered email
>
>         address. If this is a problem for anyone, let me know and I can
> send you a
>
>         Word document.
>
>
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         --Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Extracting Stellar as a component/module

Posted by Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org>.
I’ve copied it to the cwiki, but the thing is that cwiki only allows comments at the bottom.  With a long doc like this, that’s not very good.  I’d much rather keep everyone’s comments in the same system, and local to the text they’re commenting on.

 

Is it okay to leave this in google doc?

 

If anyone can’t abide logging in to google, the cwiki version is here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/METRON/Extracting+Stellar+into+an+Independent+Module 

 

Thanks,

--Matt

 

On 4/11/17, 3:15 PM, "Matt Foley" <mf...@hortonworks.com> wrote:

 

No, actually you’re right.  Will have it moved over shortly.

                                             

    On 4/11/17, 2:56 PM, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:

    

        Nevermind

        

        

        On April 11, 2017 at 17:47:57, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com) wrote:

        

        Can’t we do this in confluence?

        

        

        

        On April 11, 2017 at 17:38:40, Matt Foley (mattf@apache.org) wrote:

        

        Hi all,

        This is a new discussion thread, and if the proposed change is accepted by

        the community, it will be submitted to the next release, not the current

        0.4.0 branch.

        

        Stellar has 126 verbs today, and seems only likely to continue growing.

        Furthermore, we expect Stellar to be extended by users, and probably grow

        into having one or more Registry/ Repositories, etc. All this suggests that

        we should start viewing Stellar itself as a component, and make sure it is

        maintainable and has clean interfaces to the rest of the system. And that

        will be easier if we extract it into its own module, both in the code tree

        and in maven.

        

        I’ve written a combination proposal / discussion about how to extract

        Stellar from its current deep embed in Metron. Comments are welcome, and

        encouraged. Please read:

        https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EP7Jt4ePHe2A-_oboLl2QbN1muh7uKeET_kbpIgjcJM/edit#heading=h.4vsrmths49wk

        

        I believe I’ve set access so anyone can read and comment on it. However,

        google docs may still ask you log in with a google-registered email

        address. If this is a problem for anyone, let me know and I can send you a

        Word document.

        

        Thanks,

        --Matt

        

    

    

Re: [DISCUSS] Extracting Stellar as a component/module

Posted by Matt Foley <mf...@hortonworks.com>.
No, actually you’re right.  Will have it moved over shortly.

On 4/11/17, 2:56 PM, "Otto Fowler" <ot...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Nevermind
    
    
    On April 11, 2017 at 17:47:57, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com) wrote:
    
    Can’t we do this in confluence?
    
    
    
    On April 11, 2017 at 17:38:40, Matt Foley (mattf@apache.org) wrote:
    
    Hi all,
    This is a new discussion thread, and if the proposed change is accepted by
    the community, it will be submitted to the next release, not the current
    0.4.0 branch.
    
    Stellar has 126 verbs today, and seems only likely to continue growing.
    Furthermore, we expect Stellar to be extended by users, and probably grow
    into having one or more Registry/ Repositories, etc. All this suggests that
    we should start viewing Stellar itself as a component, and make sure it is
    maintainable and has clean interfaces to the rest of the system. And that
    will be easier if we extract it into its own module, both in the code tree
    and in maven.
    
    I’ve written a combination proposal / discussion about how to extract
    Stellar from its current deep embed in Metron. Comments are welcome, and
    encouraged. Please read:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EP7Jt4ePHe2A-_oboLl2QbN1muh7uKeET_kbpIgjcJM/edit#heading=h.4vsrmths49wk
    
    I believe I’ve set access so anyone can read and comment on it. However,
    google docs may still ask you log in with a google-registered email
    address. If this is a problem for anyone, let me know and I can send you a
    Word document.
    
    Thanks,
    --Matt

Re: [DISCUSS] Extracting Stellar as a component/module

Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
Nevermind


On April 11, 2017 at 17:47:57, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com) wrote:

Can’t we do this in confluence?



On April 11, 2017 at 17:38:40, Matt Foley (mattf@apache.org) wrote:

Hi all,
This is a new discussion thread, and if the proposed change is accepted by
the community, it will be submitted to the next release, not the current
0.4.0 branch.

Stellar has 126 verbs today, and seems only likely to continue growing.
Furthermore, we expect Stellar to be extended by users, and probably grow
into having one or more Registry/ Repositories, etc. All this suggests that
we should start viewing Stellar itself as a component, and make sure it is
maintainable and has clean interfaces to the rest of the system. And that
will be easier if we extract it into its own module, both in the code tree
and in maven.

I’ve written a combination proposal / discussion about how to extract
Stellar from its current deep embed in Metron. Comments are welcome, and
encouraged. Please read:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EP7Jt4ePHe2A-_oboLl2QbN1muh7uKeET_kbpIgjcJM/edit#heading=h.4vsrmths49wk

I believe I’ve set access so anyone can read and comment on it. However,
google docs may still ask you log in with a google-registered email
address. If this is a problem for anyone, let me know and I can send you a
Word document.

Thanks,
--Matt

Re: [DISCUSS] Extracting Stellar as a component/module

Posted by Otto Fowler <ot...@gmail.com>.
Can’t we do this in confluence?



On April 11, 2017 at 17:38:40, Matt Foley (mattf@apache.org) wrote:

Hi all,
This is a new discussion thread, and if the proposed change is accepted by
the community, it will be submitted to the next release, not the current
0.4.0 branch.

Stellar has 126 verbs today, and seems only likely to continue growing.
Furthermore, we expect Stellar to be extended by users, and probably grow
into having one or more Registry/ Repositories, etc. All this suggests that
we should start viewing Stellar itself as a component, and make sure it is
maintainable and has clean interfaces to the rest of the system. And that
will be easier if we extract it into its own module, both in the code tree
and in maven.

I’ve written a combination proposal / discussion about how to extract
Stellar from its current deep embed in Metron. Comments are welcome, and
encouraged. Please read:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EP7Jt4ePHe2A-_oboLl2QbN1muh7uKeET_kbpIgjcJM/edit#heading=h.4vsrmths49wk

I believe I’ve set access so anyone can read and comment on it. However,
google docs may still ask you log in with a google-registered email
address. If this is a problem for anyone, let me know and I can send you a
Word document.

Thanks,
--Matt