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Posted to user@zookeeper.apache.org by Deepti Sharma S <de...@ericsson.com> on 2017/02/14 10:55:29 UTC
Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
Hello Team,
We are using zookeeper version 3.4.3 which does not include the encryption. As per our technical analysis the encryption support is introduced in 3.5.0 version. However 3.5.x versions are seems not to be stable as per their naming convention as "alpha".
Can you please confirm if we can use the 3.5.x version and will have community support in these versions.
[Ericsson]<http://www.ericsson.com/>
DEEPTI SHARMA
Senior Configuration Engineer
ITIL 2011 Foundation Certified
BICP, R&D
Ericsson
3rd Floor, ASF Insignia - Block B Kings Canyon,
Gwal Pahari, Gurgaon, Haryana 122 003, India
Phone 0124-6243000
deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com
www.ericsson.com
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Re: Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
Posted by Shawn Heisey <ap...@elyograg.org>.
On 2/20/2017 2:19 AM, Deepti Sharma S wrote:
> Can anyone confirm, is there any specific reason in the naming
> convention in this release and to make it as "alpha". As per my
> understanding Alpha means its beta release and not recommended to use
> in production, however as per below mail it seems many customers using
> the alpha version, so there is no harm to use this version.
The developers have decided that the 3.5 branch is currently alpha.
This is a different designation than beta. Here's how I interpret the
stages of public software releases, from the point of view of the
developers, but others may see them differently:
Alpha: We've got the code finished, we think it works, now we want to
find out whether it works for other people.
Beta: We fixed problems that brave people helped us find in the alpha
releases. The latest build works for everyone who's tried it so far,
now we want to get it out to a wider audience that can really pound on
it and see whether it's bulletproof.
Stable: All the problems found during alpha and beta have been fixed,
the software seems to perform well under heavy usage, and now it's ready
for everyone.
Information available on this list indicates that the current plan is
that version 3.5.3 will be beta, and there is no scheduled release
date. For 3.4.x, there was only one beta release before it changed to
stable, but there's no guarantee that history will repeat itself. The
release version numbers did not contain the text "alpha" or "beta" for
the 3.4 releases -- that is new this time.
It looks like this project typically has a very slow release cycle. The
3.5 branch has been in alpha for two and a half years, significantly
longer than 3.4 was in that state. The last 3.5 release was July of
last year, and the previous release was nearly a year before that. If
any show-stopper issues had been discovered, it is likely that there
would have been more frequent releases. If somebody chooses to run
mission-critical systems on 3.5, they do so at their own risk ... but
the risk is probably low.
Thanks,
Shawn
Re: Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
Posted by Rakesh Radhakrishnan <ra...@apache.org>.
>>>> Can anyone confirm, is there any specific reason in the naming
convention in this release and to make it as "alpha".
As we know, 3.5.x release contains many critical features like, dynamic
reconfig, SSL feature etc. Naturally, community would focus on
stabilization: resolving blocker bugs and freezing public APIs in an
incremental way. Starts with a series of alpha releases, so people can run
and test with, once we address all the blockers and feel comfortable with
the APIs & remaining jiras we then switch to beta. Please go through the
following link, which gives you idea about 3.5 release plans -
http://markmail.org/message/ymxliy2rrwjc2pmo
>>>> As per my understanding Alpha means its beta release and not
recommended to use in production, however as per below mail
>>>> it seems many customers using the alpha version, so there is no harm
to use this version.
Like I mentioned in my previous mail thread, 3.5.3 release is underway and
contains many fixes. Probably, you could try this upcoming version.
Meantime, you could setup test cluster using the latest available version
and please feel free to report issues, if any.
It looks like there are lots of people interested in seeing 3.5 stable
version, and if we get everyone to contribute more patches and code
reviews, we should be able to do it sooner. From the dev/user community
mail threads, I could see many companies are using ZooKeeper
http://zookeeper.apache.org/doc/r3.5.2-alpha/ latest release and reporting
queries/improvements etc.
http://zookeeper-user.578899.n2.nabble.com/Question-on-Release-3-5-x-td7581755.html
.
Probably, other folks can share thoughts.
Thanks,
Rakesh
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Deepti Sharma S <
deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hello Team,
>
> Can anyone response on below query, this quite urgent for us.
>
>
>
> Ericsson
>
> DEEPTI SHARMA
> Senior Configuration Engineer
> ITIL 2011 Foundation Certified
> BICP, R&D
>
> Ericsson
> 3rd Floor, ASF Insignia - Block B Kings Canyon,
> Gwal Pahari, Gurgaon, Haryana 122 003, India
> Phone 0124-6243000
> deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com
> www.ericsson.com
>
>
>
> Legal entity: EGI, registered office in Gwal Pahari, Haryana. This
> Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis
> of the terms set out at www.ericsson.com/email_disclaimer
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepti Sharma S
> Sent: 20 February, 2017 2:50 PM
> To: user@zookeeper.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
>
> Hi Team,
>
> Can anyone confirm, is there any specific reason in the naming convention
> in this release and to make it as "alpha".
>
> As per my understanding Alpha means its beta release and not recommended
> to use in production, however as per below mail it seems many customers
> using the alpha version, so there is no harm to use this version.
>
>
>
> Ericsson
>
> DEEPTI SHARMA
> Senior Configuration Engineer
> ITIL 2011 Foundation Certified
> BICP, R&D
>
> Ericsson
> 3rd Floor, ASF Insignia - Block B Kings Canyon, Gwal Pahari, Gurgaon,
> Haryana 122 003, India Phone 0124-6243000 deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com
> www.ericsson.com
>
>
>
> Legal entity: EGI, registered office in Gwal Pahari, Haryana. This
> Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis
> of the terms set out at www.ericsson.com/email_disclaimer -----Original
> Message-----
> From: Rakesh Radhakrishnan [mailto:rakeshr@apache.org]
> Sent: 14 February, 2017 5:05 PM
> To: user@zookeeper.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
>
> Hi Deepti,
>
> Thanks for the interest in 3.5 features.
>
> AFAIK, there are many companies started using 3.5.2 latest alpha version.
> I believe with the community support, would be able to reach to a 3.5.3
> beta version soon. But, I don't have exact time frame of 3.5.3 releasing
> now, because that is a joint efforts of ZooKeeper community(devs, users
> etc).
> Probably, you could setup a test cluster with the available 3.5.2-alpha
> latest version and start analyzing/understanding the changes in this for
> smooth adoption to your eco system. Also, please feel free to report
> issues/queries to the dev/user mailing list. I hope some of us will help
> you.
>
> Release discussion thread:
> https://qnalist.com/questions/7887505/upcoming-3-4-3-5-releases
>
> Thanks,
> Rakesh
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Deepti Sharma S <
> deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Team,
> >
> > We are using zookeeper version 3.4.3 which does not include the
> > encryption. As per our technical analysis the encryption support is
> > introduced in 3.5.0 version. However 3.5.x versions are seems not to
> > be stable as per their naming convention as "alpha".
> >
> > Can you please confirm if we can use the 3.5.x version and will have
> > community support in these versions.
> >
> >
> > [Ericsson]<http://www.ericsson.com/>
> >
> > DEEPTI SHARMA
> > Senior Configuration Engineer
> > ITIL 2011 Foundation Certified
> > BICP, R&D
> >
> > Ericsson
> > 3rd Floor, ASF Insignia - Block B Kings Canyon, Gwal Pahari, Gurgaon,
> > Haryana 122 003, India Phone 0124-6243000 deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com
> > www.ericsson.com
> >
> >
> > [http://www.ericsson.com/current_campaign]<http://www.
> > ericsson.com/current_campaign>
> >
> > Legal entity: EGI, registered office in Gwal Pahari, Haryana. This
> > Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the
> > basis of the terms set out at www.ericsson.com/email_disclaimer<
> http://www.
> > ericsson.com/email_disclaimer>
> >
>
RE: Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
Posted by Deepti Sharma S <de...@ericsson.com>.
Hello Team,
Can anyone response on below query, this quite urgent for us.
Ericsson
DEEPTI SHARMA
Senior Configuration Engineer
ITIL 2011 Foundation Certified
BICP, R&D
Ericsson
3rd Floor, ASF Insignia - Block B Kings Canyon,
Gwal Pahari, Gurgaon, Haryana 122 003, India
Phone 0124-6243000
deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com
www.ericsson.com
Legal entity: EGI, registered office in Gwal Pahari, Haryana. This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at www.ericsson.com/email_disclaimer
-----Original Message-----
From: Deepti Sharma S
Sent: 20 February, 2017 2:50 PM
To: user@zookeeper.apache.org
Subject: RE: Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
Hi Team,
Can anyone confirm, is there any specific reason in the naming convention in this release and to make it as "alpha".
As per my understanding Alpha means its beta release and not recommended to use in production, however as per below mail it seems many customers using the alpha version, so there is no harm to use this version.
Ericsson
DEEPTI SHARMA
Senior Configuration Engineer
ITIL 2011 Foundation Certified
BICP, R&D
Ericsson
3rd Floor, ASF Insignia - Block B Kings Canyon, Gwal Pahari, Gurgaon, Haryana 122 003, India Phone 0124-6243000 deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com www.ericsson.com
Legal entity: EGI, registered office in Gwal Pahari, Haryana. This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at www.ericsson.com/email_disclaimer -----Original Message-----
From: Rakesh Radhakrishnan [mailto:rakeshr@apache.org]
Sent: 14 February, 2017 5:05 PM
To: user@zookeeper.apache.org
Subject: Re: Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
Hi Deepti,
Thanks for the interest in 3.5 features.
AFAIK, there are many companies started using 3.5.2 latest alpha version. I believe with the community support, would be able to reach to a 3.5.3 beta version soon. But, I don't have exact time frame of 3.5.3 releasing now, because that is a joint efforts of ZooKeeper community(devs, users etc).
Probably, you could setup a test cluster with the available 3.5.2-alpha latest version and start analyzing/understanding the changes in this for smooth adoption to your eco system. Also, please feel free to report issues/queries to the dev/user mailing list. I hope some of us will help you.
Release discussion thread:
https://qnalist.com/questions/7887505/upcoming-3-4-3-5-releases
Thanks,
Rakesh
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Deepti Sharma S < deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hello Team,
>
> We are using zookeeper version 3.4.3 which does not include the
> encryption. As per our technical analysis the encryption support is
> introduced in 3.5.0 version. However 3.5.x versions are seems not to
> be stable as per their naming convention as "alpha".
>
> Can you please confirm if we can use the 3.5.x version and will have
> community support in these versions.
>
>
> [Ericsson]<http://www.ericsson.com/>
>
> DEEPTI SHARMA
> Senior Configuration Engineer
> ITIL 2011 Foundation Certified
> BICP, R&D
>
> Ericsson
> 3rd Floor, ASF Insignia - Block B Kings Canyon, Gwal Pahari, Gurgaon,
> Haryana 122 003, India Phone 0124-6243000 deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com
> www.ericsson.com
>
>
> [http://www.ericsson.com/current_campaign]<http://www.
> ericsson.com/current_campaign>
>
> Legal entity: EGI, registered office in Gwal Pahari, Haryana. This
> Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the
> basis of the terms set out at www.ericsson.com/email_disclaimer<http://www.
> ericsson.com/email_disclaimer>
>
RE: Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
Posted by Deepti Sharma S <de...@ericsson.com>.
Hi Team,
Can anyone confirm, is there any specific reason in the naming convention in this release and to make it as "alpha".
As per my understanding Alpha means its beta release and not recommended to use in production, however as per below mail it seems many customers using the alpha version, so there is no harm to use this version.
Ericsson
DEEPTI SHARMA
Senior Configuration Engineer
ITIL 2011 Foundation Certified
BICP, R&D
Ericsson
3rd Floor, ASF Insignia - Block B Kings Canyon,
Gwal Pahari, Gurgaon, Haryana 122 003, India
Phone 0124-6243000
deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com
www.ericsson.com
Legal entity: EGI, registered office in Gwal Pahari, Haryana. This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at www.ericsson.com/email_disclaimer
-----Original Message-----
From: Rakesh Radhakrishnan [mailto:rakeshr@apache.org]
Sent: 14 February, 2017 5:05 PM
To: user@zookeeper.apache.org
Subject: Re: Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
Hi Deepti,
Thanks for the interest in 3.5 features.
AFAIK, there are many companies started using 3.5.2 latest alpha version. I believe with the community support, would be able to reach to a 3.5.3 beta version soon. But, I don't have exact time frame of 3.5.3 releasing now, because that is a joint efforts of ZooKeeper community(devs, users etc).
Probably, you could setup a test cluster with the available 3.5.2-alpha latest version and start analyzing/understanding the changes in this for smooth adoption to your eco system. Also, please feel free to report issues/queries to the dev/user mailing list. I hope some of us will help you.
Release discussion thread:
https://qnalist.com/questions/7887505/upcoming-3-4-3-5-releases
Thanks,
Rakesh
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Deepti Sharma S < deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hello Team,
>
> We are using zookeeper version 3.4.3 which does not include the
> encryption. As per our technical analysis the encryption support is
> introduced in 3.5.0 version. However 3.5.x versions are seems not to
> be stable as per their naming convention as "alpha".
>
> Can you please confirm if we can use the 3.5.x version and will have
> community support in these versions.
>
>
> [Ericsson]<http://www.ericsson.com/>
>
> DEEPTI SHARMA
> Senior Configuration Engineer
> ITIL 2011 Foundation Certified
> BICP, R&D
>
> Ericsson
> 3rd Floor, ASF Insignia - Block B Kings Canyon, Gwal Pahari, Gurgaon,
> Haryana 122 003, India Phone 0124-6243000 deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com
> www.ericsson.com
>
>
> [http://www.ericsson.com/current_campaign]<http://www.
> ericsson.com/current_campaign>
>
> Legal entity: EGI, registered office in Gwal Pahari, Haryana. This
> Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis
> of the terms set out at www.ericsson.com/email_disclaimer<http://www.
> ericsson.com/email_disclaimer>
>
Re: Query: 3.5.x version as alpha
Posted by Rakesh Radhakrishnan <ra...@apache.org>.
Hi Deepti,
Thanks for the interest in 3.5 features.
AFAIK, there are many companies started using 3.5.2 latest alpha version. I
believe with the community support, would be able to reach to a 3.5.3 beta
version soon. But, I don't have exact time frame of 3.5.3 releasing now,
because that is a joint efforts of ZooKeeper community(devs, users etc).
Probably, you could setup a test cluster with the available 3.5.2-alpha
latest version and start analyzing/understanding the changes in this for
smooth adoption to your eco system. Also, please feel free to report
issues/queries to the dev/user mailing list. I hope some of us will help
you.
Release discussion thread:
https://qnalist.com/questions/7887505/upcoming-3-4-3-5-releases
Thanks,
Rakesh
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Deepti Sharma S <
deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hello Team,
>
> We are using zookeeper version 3.4.3 which does not include the
> encryption. As per our technical analysis the encryption support is
> introduced in 3.5.0 version. However 3.5.x versions are seems not to be
> stable as per their naming convention as "alpha".
>
> Can you please confirm if we can use the 3.5.x version and will have
> community support in these versions.
>
>
> [Ericsson]<http://www.ericsson.com/>
>
> DEEPTI SHARMA
> Senior Configuration Engineer
> ITIL 2011 Foundation Certified
> BICP, R&D
>
> Ericsson
> 3rd Floor, ASF Insignia - Block B Kings Canyon,
> Gwal Pahari, Gurgaon, Haryana 122 003, India
> Phone 0124-6243000
> deepti.s.sharma@ericsson.com
> www.ericsson.com
>
>
> [http://www.ericsson.com/current_campaign]<http://www.
> ericsson.com/current_campaign>
>
> Legal entity: EGI, registered office in Gwal Pahari, Haryana. This
> Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis
> of the terms set out at www.ericsson.com/email_disclaimer<http://www.
> ericsson.com/email_disclaimer>
>