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Posted to dev@tomcat.apache.org by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> on 2003/09/03 11:02:25 UTC

mirror-enable tomcat-connector downloads

Hi,

as by now you most probably know, all releases should go through
www.apache.org/dist so they will be mirrored and we (the ASF) can save
money as we pay for the transferred data.  For details please see
<http://www.apache.org/dev/mirrors.html> and
<http://jakarta.apache.org/site/convert-to-mirror.html>.

Tomcat 4.1 is using the "official" distribution location, but AFAICS
no connector distribution is doing so.

I'll be happy to help with the migration ranging from giving advice to
doing it myself, just let me know what is needed.

On a related note: How does anybody find the connector distributions?

Yesterday I had a customer who insists on placing Tomcat behind IIS
rant about that "damned open source software" as he failed to locate
iis_redirect.dll.  He started from the location he used to download
the version bundled with 3.2.4 as he couldn't find a link on Tomcat's
pages.  It's rather hard to find them that way.

Even before Robert changed the Jakarta download pages a few hours ago,
there has been no link to a connector download and I cannot find a
link in Tomcat's part of the Jakarta website at all.

I found the JK2 download by following the link in Tomcat's README in
<http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat-4/binaries/>, but please
note that (1) mirrors may not display that file at all[1] and (2)
almost nobody is going to see the README after the redesign of the
Jakarta download page.

Cheers

        Stefan

Footnotes: 
[1]  for example http://www.apache.de/dist/jakarta/tomcat-4/binaries/


Re: mirror-enable tomcat-connector downloads

Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2003, Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net> wrote:
> 
>>Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Sep 2003, Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>We have a release pending for mod_jk 1.2.5,
>>>
>>>Does that affect JK2 and JNI and what not as well?
>>
>>No. Just the mod_jk 1.2 connector source and binary distributions.
> 
> 
> Do you want to move the other distributions to the mirrors then as
> well or would you prefer somebody else to do it (I'd still volunteer 8-).
> 

Nah, just as easy to move those at the same time mod_jk 1.2 is moved.

Glenn


Re: mirror-enable tomcat-connector downloads

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003, Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net> wrote:
> Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Sep 2003, Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net> wrote:
>>
>>>We have a release pending for mod_jk 1.2.5,
>> Does that affect JK2 and JNI and what not as well?
> 
> No. Just the mod_jk 1.2 connector source and binary distributions.

Do you want to move the other distributions to the mirrors then as
well or would you prefer somebody else to do it (I'd still volunteer 8-).

>> The ultimate goal should be that jakarta/builds is empty (nightlies
>> are supposed to be on cvs.apache.org for some reason).
> 
> Nightlies were moved to cvs.apache.org a while ago when daedalus was
> running out of disk space.

Great.  Betas/Alphas should be on cvs instead of jakarta as well.

> Now that jakarta.apache.org and cvs.apache.org are on the same
> server it doesn't matter.

Yes and no.  It would matter for anybody trying to mirror
jakarta.apache.org, not sure whether that happens, though.

Thanks again

        Stefan

Re: mirror-enable tomcat-connector downloads

Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.

Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2003, Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>>We have a release pending for mod_jk 1.2.5,
> 
> 
> Does that affect JK2 and JNI and what not as well?
> 

No. Just the mod_jk 1.2 connector source and binary distributions.

> 
>>I can take care of this when I do the release.
> 
> 
> Please do.  And while you are at it, please move all old releases to
> archive.apache.org.

Sure.

> 
> The ultimate goal should be that jakarta/builds is empty (nightlies
> are supposed to be on cvs.apache.org for some reason).
> 

Nightlies were moved to cvs.apache.org a while ago when daedalus was
running out of disk space. Now that jakarta.apache.org and cvs.apache.org
are on the same server it doesn't matter.

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: mirror-enable tomcat-connector downloads

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003, Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net> wrote:

> We have a release pending for mod_jk 1.2.5,

Does that affect JK2 and JNI and what not as well?

> I can take care of this when I do the release.

Please do.  And while you are at it, please move all old releases to
archive.apache.org.

The ultimate goal should be that jakarta/builds is empty (nightlies
are supposed to be on cvs.apache.org for some reason).

Thanks

        Stefan

Re: mirror-enable tomcat-connector downloads

Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> as by now you most probably know, all releases should go through
> www.apache.org/dist so they will be mirrored and we (the ASF) can save
> money as we pay for the transferred data.  For details please see
> <http://www.apache.org/dev/mirrors.html> and
> <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/convert-to-mirror.html>.
> 
> Tomcat 4.1 is using the "official" distribution location, but AFAICS
> no connector distribution is doing so.
> 
> I'll be happy to help with the migration ranging from giving advice to
> doing it myself, just let me know what is needed.
> 

We have a release pending for mod_jk 1.2.5, I can take care of this
when I do the release.  I migrated jakarta-taglibs to support the
mirror months ago.  Thanks for the offer to help.

> On a related note: How does anybody find the connector distributions?
> 
> Yesterday I had a customer who insists on placing Tomcat behind IIS
> rant about that "damned open source software" as he failed to locate
> iis_redirect.dll.  He started from the location he used to download
> the version bundled with 3.2.4 as he couldn't find a link on Tomcat's
> pages.  It's rather hard to find them that way.
> 
> Even before Robert changed the Jakarta download pages a few hours ago,
> there has been no link to a connector download and I cannot find a
> link in Tomcat's part of the Jakarta website at all.
> 
> I found the JK2 download by following the link in Tomcat's README in
> <http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat-4/binaries/>, but please
> note that (1) mirrors may not display that file at all[1] and (2)
> almost nobody is going to see the README after the redesign of the
> Jakarta download page.
> 

Yeah, this should be made clearer and can be done as part of migrating
mod_jk to support the mirror.  I can publish to the jakarta site so
I will look into this.

Thanks for prodding us Stefan.

Regards,

Glenn