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[Mentors] The need for an IPMC vote on Apache NetBeans 11
Hi all, especially mentors,
Looks like we'll be completing our top level vote mail tomorrow on the
PPMC, then since (unknowingly) I didn't include the resolution, we'll need
another vote in the PPMC on that, and then we'll take it to the IPMC for
voting.
All of the above could be done by the end of next week -- especially since
the 4 votes of our mentors (Ate, Mark, Bertrand, and Daniel) carry through
into the IPMC vote, so unless someone pops up with a strong -1, we should
be done by the end of next week.
Would that then mean that we are at that moment a top level project -- the
reason I'm asking is that we're working now on releasing Apache NetBeans
11, getting close now to a PPMC vote during the next week I imagine -- so,
would Apache NetBeans 11 need to be voted on in the IPMC if the IPMC has
already voted to make Apache NetBeans a top level project? And the reason
for that question is that our vote process will be sped up significantly if
we do not need to do the IPMC vote. That in turn changes our release date.
Thanks,
Gj
Re: [Mentors] The need for an IPMC vote on Apache NetBeans 11
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Ah, well, feared as much, but was worth a try. :-)
Gj
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 20:16, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/03/2019 18.45, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > Hi all, especially mentors,
> >
> > Looks like we'll be completing our top level vote mail tomorrow on the
> > PPMC, then since (unknowingly) I didn't include the resolution, we'll
> need
> > another vote in the PPMC on that, and then we'll take it to the IPMC for
> > voting.
> >
> > All of the above could be done by the end of next week -- especially
> since
> > the 4 votes of our mentors (Ate, Mark, Bertrand, and Daniel) carry
> through
> > into the IPMC vote, so unless someone pops up with a strong -1, we should
> > be done by the end of next week.
> >
> > Would that then mean that we are at that moment a top level project --
> the
> > reason I'm asking is that we're working now on releasing Apache NetBeans
> > 11, getting close now to a PPMC vote during the next week I imagine --
> so,
> > would Apache NetBeans 11 need to be voted on in the IPMC if the IPMC has
> > already voted to make Apache NetBeans a top level project? And the reason
> > for that question is that our vote process will be sped up significantly
> if
> > we do not need to do the IPMC vote. That in turn changes our release
> date.
>
> It doesn't work that way.
>
> The whole process is clearly described at:
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>
> A positive IPMC vote for graduating a podling to a new top level project
> means that the Incubator project will thereafter *recommend* the
> graduation to TPL to the board in the next board meeting.
>
> It is a formal act of the board, and the board only, to create new TPLs.
> Normally this goes through smoothly, and I don't expect this will be
> different for NetBeans, but going TPL will take a little bit more time.
> At least until the next board meeting, after the IPMC graduation vote.
>
> HTH, Ate
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
>
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Re: [Mentors] The need for an IPMC vote on Apache NetBeans 11
Posted by Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu>.
On 12/03/2019 18.45, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Hi all, especially mentors,
>
> Looks like we'll be completing our top level vote mail tomorrow on the
> PPMC, then since (unknowingly) I didn't include the resolution, we'll need
> another vote in the PPMC on that, and then we'll take it to the IPMC for
> voting.
>
> All of the above could be done by the end of next week -- especially since
> the 4 votes of our mentors (Ate, Mark, Bertrand, and Daniel) carry through
> into the IPMC vote, so unless someone pops up with a strong -1, we should
> be done by the end of next week.
>
> Would that then mean that we are at that moment a top level project -- the
> reason I'm asking is that we're working now on releasing Apache NetBeans
> 11, getting close now to a PPMC vote during the next week I imagine -- so,
> would Apache NetBeans 11 need to be voted on in the IPMC if the IPMC has
> already voted to make Apache NetBeans a top level project? And the reason
> for that question is that our vote process will be sped up significantly if
> we do not need to do the IPMC vote. That in turn changes our release date.
It doesn't work that way.
The whole process is clearly described at:
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
A positive IPMC vote for graduating a podling to a new top level project
means that the Incubator project will thereafter *recommend* the
graduation to TPL to the board in the next board meeting.
It is a formal act of the board, and the board only, to create new TPLs.
Normally this goes through smoothly, and I don't expect this will be
different for NetBeans, but going TPL will take a little bit more time.
At least until the next board meeting, after the IPMC graduation vote.
HTH, Ate
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
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