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Posted to users@subversion.apache.org by Jason Holland <jh...@a-cc.com> on 2011/09/28 07:41:42 UTC

"Subversion encountered a serious problem." error details


I was checking in latest code before leaving.

Only noticeable difference between today (and also in the last few days) as compared to previously is that my Tortoise app is not supported by the subversion server software.  See below.  Though, I have not experienced the above issue until 15 minutes ago.



Re: "Subversion encountered a serious problem." error details

Posted by Dave Huang <kh...@azeotrope.org>.
On Sep 28, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Jason Holland wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> Purpose of the original email was to report the error message, which is the first screen shot, as was explicitly requested in the error message. 
> 
> Purpose was not to discuss second error message.  Second error message was included just to provide any additional details that may be of help.

That's fine, but you claimed that the second error message meant that your "Tortoise app is not supported by the subversion server software." However, that is not what it's trying to tell you. If you were mislead by the message, perhaps you could suggest how to improve it. What it's trying to tell you is that most likely you upgraded another Subversion client (e.g. TortoiseSVN or the SVN client) to a newer version without upgrading your AnkhSVN. And that you could visit http://ankhsvn.net/ to find out about newer AnkhSVN versions supporting this Working Copy.

RE: "Subversion encountered a serious problem." error details

Posted by Jason Holland <jh...@a-cc.com>.
Dave,

Purpose of the original email was to report the error message, which is the first screen shot, as was explicitly requested in the error message. 

Purpose was not to discuss second error message.  Second error message was included just to provide any additional details that may be of help.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Huang [mailto:khym@azeotrope.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:03 PM
To: Jason Holland
Cc: Subversion Users (users@subversion.apache.org)
Subject: Re: "Subversion encountered a serious problem." error details


On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Jason Holland wrote:

> Dave,  read this sentence "The sole purpose of that email was to provide feedback and details as requested by the error message."  
> Please read the first two sentences in the screen shot.  
> If the subversion team does not want the feedback as requested, please let me know.

The discussion is about the second error message--the one you received from AnkhSVN, not TortoiseSVN--the one that says, "Subversion detected an unsupported working copy version while checking the status of 'C:\SourceCode\HaccpReportingSystem\trunk'. Most likely you upgraded another Subversion client (e.g. TortoiseSVN or the SVN client) to a newer version without upgrading your AnkhSVN. Please visit http://ankhsvn.net/ to find out about newer AnkhSVN versions supporting this Working Copy."

You'll note that it doesn't mention servers or sending the email to any mailing list. The subversion team did request feedback regarding the first message--the one that asks you to report it on the Subversion mailing list. However, it did not request feedback regarding the second message--the one that says, "Please visit http://ankhsvn.net/ to find out about newer AnkhSVN versions supporting this Working Copy." I don't know how that message could be made clearer, but perhaps you could let us know.

BTW, I'm not sure why you felt the need to copy your entire message again... I've already seen it, and you didn't say anything new. In fact, you've repeated things that you've already been told is incorrect. I.e., "Only noticeable difference between today (and also in the last few days) as compared to previously is that my Tortoise app is not supported by the subversion server software. See below." The message you reference is the subject of this post, and as Markus and I have said, it has nothing to do with your "Tortoise app is not supported by the subversion server software."


Re: "Subversion encountered a serious problem." error details

Posted by Dave Huang <kh...@azeotrope.org>.
On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Jason Holland wrote:

> Dave,  read this sentence “The sole purpose of that email was to provide feedback and details as requested by the error message.”  
> Please read the first two sentences in the screen shot.  
> If the subversion team does not want the feedback as requested, please let me know.

The discussion is about the second error message--the one you received from AnkhSVN, not TortoiseSVN--the one that says, "Subversion detected an unsupported working copy version while checking the status of 'C:\SourceCode\HaccpReportingSystem\trunk'. Most likely you upgraded another Subversion client (e.g. TortoiseSVN or the SVN client) to a newer version without upgrading your AnkhSVN. Please visit http://ankhsvn.net/ to find out about newer AnkhSVN versions supporting this Working Copy."

You'll note that it doesn't mention servers or sending the email to any mailing list. The subversion team did request feedback regarding the first message--the one that asks you to report it on the Subversion mailing list. However, it did not request feedback regarding the second message--the one that says, "Please visit http://ankhsvn.net/ to find out about newer AnkhSVN versions supporting this Working Copy." I don't know how that message could be made clearer, but perhaps you could let us know.

BTW, I'm not sure why you felt the need to copy your entire message again... I've already seen it, and you didn't say anything new. In fact, you've repeated things that you've already been told is incorrect. I.e., "Only noticeable difference between today (and also in the last few days) as compared to previously is that my Tortoise app is not supported by the subversion server software. See below." The message you reference is the subject of this post, and as Markus and I have said, it has nothing to do with your "Tortoise app is not supported by the subversion server software."


Re: "Subversion encountered a serious problem." error details

Posted by Dave Huang <kh...@azeotrope.org>.
On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Jason Holland wrote:

> I am not "mislead" by nor do I not understand any of the errors.  The sole purpose of that email was to provide feedback and details as requested by the error message.

Call it what you will, but the second error message did not instruct you to send that error to the mailing list, nor did it imply that your "Tortoise app is not supported by the subversion server software." The message said that, "Subversion detected an unsupported working copy version while checking the status of 'C:\SourceCode\HaccpReportingSystem\trunk'. Most likely you upgraded another Subversion client (e.g. TortoiseSVN or the SVN client) to a newer version without upgrading your AnkhSVN. Please visit http://ankhsvn.net/ to find out about newer AnkhSVN versions supporting this Working Copy."

If you were incorrectly lead (i.e., mislead) to believe that the error message was telling you that your Tortoise app was not supported by the subversion server software, perhaps you could let us know why, and how the message could be improved.

RE: "Subversion encountered a serious problem." error details

Posted by Jason Holland <jh...@a-cc.com>.
Hi,

I sent that error screen shot to 'users@subversion.apache.org' because the first two sentences of the error message in the screen shot states :

"Subversion encountered a serious problem.  Please take the time to report this on the Subversion mailing list (users@subversion.apache.org) with as much information as possible about what you were trying to do."

I included the second error message screen shot because, as stated in my email: " Only noticeable difference between today (and also in the last few days) as compared to previously is that my Tortoise app is not supported by the subversion server software.  See below.  Though, I have not experienced the above issue until 15 minutes ago.  "

This is the only change that I know of on my development computer that has occurred in the last few weeks.  The developers would want to know this.

I am not "mislead" by nor do I not understand any of the errors.  The sole purpose of that email was to provide feedback and details as requested by the error message.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: Markus Schaber [mailto:m.schaber@3s-software.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:52 AM
To: Jason Holland
Cc: Subversion Users (users@subversion.apache.org)
Subject: AW: "Subversion encountered a serious problem." error details

Hi, Jason,

It seems that you discovered two different issuses.

Von: Jason Holland [mailto:jholland@a-cc.com] [Screenshot]
> I was checking in latest code before leaving.

That first screenshot shows an assertion failure in TortoiseSVN 1.7 beta 2. It is likely to be fixed in the latest build of TortoiseSVN (you try that one), and if not, you come back with that issue. :-)

[Screenshot]
> Only noticeable difference between today (and also in the last few days) as compared to previously is that my Tortoise app is not supported by the subversion server software.  See below.  Though, I have not experienced the above issue until 15 minutes ago.  

The second issue seems to have mislead you, it is not about Tortoise, and not about the server.

The problem is that the aforementioned TortoiseSVN 1.7 beta 2 (or another 1.7-based client you used on that working copy) upgraded your working copy to the new 1.7 format. And it seems that you still have an 1.6 based version of AnkhSVN installed in your visual studio, which cannot cope with the new 1.7 format.

The solution for this to upgrade AnkhSVN to the newest 1.7-based build (http://ankhsvn.open.collab.net/daily) or wait until the first 1.7-based version is released.

In my opinion, the error message clearly describes that second issue, so it would be nice if you could tell us what in that message did you mislead to believe it is about the server refusing your client, so the developers can improve on that message. :-)

Best regards

Markus Schaber
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AW: "Subversion encountered a serious problem." error details

Posted by Markus Schaber <m....@3s-software.com>.
Hi, Jason,

It seems that you discovered two different issuses.

Von: Jason Holland [mailto:jholland@a-cc.com] 
[Screenshot]
> I was checking in latest code before leaving.

That first screenshot shows an assertion failure in TortoiseSVN 1.7 beta 2. It is likely to be fixed in the latest build of TortoiseSVN (you try that one), and if not, you come back with that issue. :-)

[Screenshot]
> Only noticeable difference between today (and also in the last few days) as compared to previously is that my Tortoise app is not supported by the subversion server software.  See below.  Though, I have not experienced the above issue until 15 minutes ago.  

The second issue seems to have mislead you, it is not about Tortoise, and not about the server.

The problem is that the aforementioned TortoiseSVN 1.7 beta 2 (or another 1.7-based client you used on that working copy) upgraded your working copy to the new 1.7 format. And it seems that you still have an 1.6 based version of AnkhSVN installed in your visual studio, which cannot cope with the new 1.7 format.

The solution for this to upgrade AnkhSVN to the newest 1.7-based build (http://ankhsvn.open.collab.net/daily) or wait until the first 1.7-based version is released.

In my opinion, the error message clearly describes that second issue, so it would be nice if you could tell us what in that message did you mislead to believe it is about the server refusing your client, so the developers can improve on that message. :-)

Best regards

Markus Schaber
-- 
___________________________
We software Automation.

3S-Smart Software Solutions GmbH
Markus Schaber | Developer
Memminger Str. 151 | 87439 Kempten | Germany | Tel. +49-831-54031-0 | Fax +49-831-54031-50

Email: m.schaber@3s-software.com | Web: http://www.3s-software.com 
CoDeSys internet forum: http://forum.3s-software.com
Download CoDeSys sample projects: http://www.3s-software.com/index.shtml?sample_projects

Managing Directors: Dipl.Inf. Dieter Hess, Dipl.Inf. Manfred Werner | Trade register: Kempten HRB 6186 | Tax ID No.: DE 167014915