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Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL sites.
Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
{lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language:
selectedlang: en *
language: Language **
(* change to your language code; ** translate title to your language)
For example, choose Hebrew from the dropdown, or see /he/brand.mdtext, or
/xx/brand.mdtext.
Note: "Native Languages" link from the menu would probably be removed in
the future, when the language dropdown would be more familiar and adopted.
Enjoy,
Tal
Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 06/25/2014 01:19 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel:
> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL sites.
thanks for this nice little feature. Good work!
> Developers& translators are called to add 2 new variables to
> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language:
>
> selectedlang: en *
> language: Language **
>
> (* change to your language code; ** translate title to your language)
Done for German, works great.
Keep up the good work, what's next? ;-)
Marcus
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RE: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by ßouЯock™ ღ <hi...@hotmail.com>.
You need to put these two strings beginning of brand.mdtext file.After than you can see your own language.Otherwise, always you see the English language selection by default.
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:40:01 +0300
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
> From: tal.reads@gmail.com
> To: l10n@openoffice.apache.org
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Michal Hriň <hr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I tried it fastly, and I see that the "English item" is always
> > selected by default. When I change language to my native "Slovak" (or
> > whatever) on list is still selected "English".
> > This implies, after language change you cannot go back to english site.
> >
>
> You need to define the 2 new variables in brand.mdtext, for Slovak to be
> the default selection in the dropdown, in the Slovekian website. Until
> then, use the Back button.
>
> Dňa 25.06.2014 13:19, Tal Daniel wrote / napísal(a):
> >
> > Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
> >> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
> >> sites.
> >>
> >> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
> >> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language:
> >>
> >> selectedlang: en *
> >> language: Language **
> >>
> >> (* change to your language code; ** translate title to your language)
> >>
> >> For example, choose Hebrew from the dropdown, or see /he/brand.mdtext, or
> >> /xx/brand.mdtext.
> >>
> >> Note: "Native Languages" link from the menu would probably be removed in
> >> the future, when the language dropdown would be more familiar and adopted.
> >>
> >
Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Dick Groskamp <th...@quicknet.nl>.
Tal Daniel schreef op 25-6-2014 17:40:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Michal Hriň <hr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi, I tried it fastly, and I see that the "English item" is always
>> selected by default. When I change language to my native "Slovak" (or
>> whatever) on list is still selected "English".
>> This implies, after language change you cannot go back to english site.
>>
> You need to define the 2 new variables in brand.mdtext, for Slovak to be
> the default selection in the dropdown, in the Slovekian website. Until
> then, use the Back button.
>
> Dňa 25.06.2014 13:19, Tal Daniel wrote / napísal(a):
>> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
>>> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
>>> sites.
>>>
>>> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
>>> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language:
>>>
>>> selectedlang: en *
>>> language: Language **
>>>
>>> (* change to your language code; ** translate title to your language)
>>>
>>> For example, choose Hebrew from the dropdown, or see /he/brand.mdtext, or
>>> /xx/brand.mdtext.
>>>
>>> Note: "Native Languages" link from the menu would probably be removed in
>>> the future, when the language dropdown would be more familiar and adopted.
>>>
Done for NL page.
Thanks Tal
--
DiGro
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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Michal Hriň <hr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi, I tried it fastly, and I see that the "English item" is always
> selected by default. When I change language to my native "Slovak" (or
> whatever) on list is still selected "English".
> This implies, after language change you cannot go back to english site.
>
You need to define the 2 new variables in brand.mdtext, for Slovak to be
the default selection in the dropdown, in the Slovekian website. Until
then, use the Back button.
Dňa 25.06.2014 13:19, Tal Daniel wrote / napísal(a):
>
> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
>> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
>> sites.
>>
>> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
>> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language:
>>
>> selectedlang: en *
>> language: Language **
>>
>> (* change to your language code; ** translate title to your language)
>>
>> For example, choose Hebrew from the dropdown, or see /he/brand.mdtext, or
>> /xx/brand.mdtext.
>>
>> Note: "Native Languages" link from the menu would probably be removed in
>> the future, when the language dropdown would be more familiar and adopted.
>>
>
Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Michal Hriň <hr...@apache.org>.
Hi,
I tried it fastly, and I see that the "English item" is always selected
by default. When I change language to my native "Slovak" (or whatever)
on list is still selected "English".
This implies, after language change you cannot go back to english site.
Regards,
Michal Hriň
Dňa 25.06.2014 13:19, Tal Daniel wrote / napísal(a):
> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL sites.
>
> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language:
>
> selectedlang: en *
> language: Language **
>
> (* change to your language code; ** translate title to your language)
>
> For example, choose Hebrew from the dropdown, or see /he/brand.mdtext, or
> /xx/brand.mdtext.
>
>
> Note: "Native Languages" link from the menu would probably be removed in
> the future, when the language dropdown would be more familiar and adopted.
>
> Enjoy,
> Tal
>
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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Pedro Albuquerque <pa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tal,
just to thank you for this feature.
Em 25-06-2014 12:19, Tal Daniel escreveu:
> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL sites.
>
> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language:
>
> selectedlang: en *
> language: Language **
>
> (* change to your language code; ** translate title to your language)
>
> For example, choose Hebrew from the dropdown, or see /he/brand.mdtext, or
> /xx/brand.mdtext.
>
>
> Note: "Native Languages" link from the menu would probably be removed in
> the future, when the language dropdown would be more familiar and adopted.
>
> Enjoy,
> Tal
>
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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:59:19PM +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:
> >Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on,
> >visitors can quickly select their language, if available. This
> >affects all NL sites. Developers & translators are called to add
> >2 new variables to {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their
> >language
>
> Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.
>
> Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with
> non-Latin at the end) or by language code?
Mozilla has a language listbox at the bottom of their site, and
Wikipedia as a language list at the side, it seems that both sort the
list according to the Latin transliteration, or something similar.
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
2014.06.26 14:13, Tal Daniel rašė:
> 2014.06.25, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
>>> On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
>>>> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
>>>> sites.
>>>> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
>>>> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language
>>>>
>>> Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.
>>>
>>> Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with non-Latin
>>> at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there is a sort in
>>> place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or maybe it's sorted by
>>> English name, but since we don't show the English name this doesn't help
>>> the visitor.
>>>
>>>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis wrote:
>
>> In indices containing entries of different alphabets, it is a good
>> practice to sort them separately, e.g. starting with the Latin entries,
>> then moving to the Cyrillic ones, and so on.
>>
>> Good point, Andreas. I'll try that.
> Interesting, that you chose Cyrillic second. Does it imply that Europe is
> the center of the world? (first Latin, then Asia, then far east/west with
> strange fonts :) I'm kidding, of course. Can you elaborate the order you
> have in mind? i.e. what goes after Cyrillic?
Am I being ethnocentric? By no means! :) I think a good logical point of
reference for sorting the list are the percentages of native AOO users
(i.e., the alphabets they're representing) as stated on the "Download by
Coutry" page <http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html>.
You'll see that the countries using the Latin alphabet predominate. Than
comes Russia (#8) accounting for one half of the Cyrillic world, then
probably the logographic/pictrographic scripts.
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
>> Done for German, works great.
>>
>> Keep up the good work, what's next? ;-)
>
> Marcus, marcus, don't be greedy. But, now that you mention it, how about
> fixing the CSS on Linux? Once, you mentioned there's too much
> spacing/padding.
>
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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
2014.06.26 14:13, Tal Daniel rašė:
> 2014.06.25, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
>>> On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
>>>> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
>>>> sites.
>>>> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
>>>> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language
>>>>
>>> Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.
>>>
>>> Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with non-Latin
>>> at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there is a sort in
>>> place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or maybe it's sorted by
>>> English name, but since we don't show the English name this doesn't help
>>> the visitor.
>>>
>>>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis wrote:
>
>> In indices containing entries of different alphabets, it is a good
>> practice to sort them separately, e.g. starting with the Latin entries,
>> then moving to the Cyrillic ones, and so on.
>>
>> Good point, Andreas. I'll try that.
> Interesting, that you chose Cyrillic second. Does it imply that Europe is
> the center of the world? (first Latin, then Asia, then far east/west with
> strange fonts :) I'm kidding, of course. Can you elaborate the order you
> have in mind? i.e. what goes after Cyrillic?
Am I being ethnocentric? By no means! :) I think a good logical point of
reference for sorting the list are the percentages of native AOO users
(i.e., the alphabets they're representing) as stated on the "Download by
Coutry" page <http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html>.
You'll see that the countries using the Latin alphabet predominate. Than
comes Russia (#8) accounting for one half of the Cyrillic world, then
probably the logographic/pictrographic scripts.
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
>> Done for German, works great.
>>
>> Keep up the good work, what's next? ;-)
>
> Marcus, marcus, don't be greedy. But, now that you mention it, how about
> fixing the CSS on Linux? Once, you mentioned there's too much
> spacing/padding.
>
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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
2014.06.25, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
>
>> On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:
>>
>>> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
>>> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
>>> sites.
>>> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
>>> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language
>>>
>>
>> Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.
>>
>> Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with non-Latin
>> at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there is a sort in
>> place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or maybe it's sorted by
>> English name, but since we don't show the English name this doesn't help
>> the visitor.
>>
>>
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis wrote:
> In indices containing entries of different alphabets, it is a good
> practice to sort them separately, e.g. starting with the Latin entries,
> then moving to the Cyrillic ones, and so on.
>
> Good point, Andreas. I'll try that.
Interesting, that you chose Cyrillic second. Does it imply that Europe is
the center of the world? (first Latin, then Asia, then far east/west with
strange fonts :) I'm kidding, of course. Can you elaborate the order you
have in mind? i.e. what goes after Cyrillic?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
> Done for German, works great.
>
> Keep up the good work, what's next? ;-)
Marcus, marcus, don't be greedy. But, now that you mention it, how about
fixing the CSS on Linux? Once, you mentioned there's too much
spacing/padding.
Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
In indices containing entries of different alphabets, it is a good
practice to sort them separately, e.g. starting with the Latin entries,
then moving to the Cyrillic ones, and so on.
Regards,
Aivaras
2014.06.25 23:59, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
> On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:
>> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
>> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
>> sites.
>> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
>> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language
>
> Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.
>
> Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with
> non-Latin at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there
> is a sort in place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or
> maybe it's sorted by English name, but since we don't show the English
> name this doesn't help the visitor.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:
> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL sites.
> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language
Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.
Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with non-Latin
at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there is a sort
in place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or maybe it's
sorted by English name, but since we don't show the English name this
doesn't help the visitor.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 06/25/2014 01:19 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel:
> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL sites.
thanks for this nice little feature. Good work!
> Developers& translators are called to add 2 new variables to
> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language:
>
> selectedlang: en *
> language: Language **
>
> (* change to your language code; ** translate title to your language)
Done for German, works great.
Keep up the good work, what's next? ;-)
Marcus
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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:
> Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
> can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL sites.
> Developers & translators are called to add 2 new variables to
> {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language
Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.
Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with non-Latin
at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there is a sort
in place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or maybe it's
sorted by English name, but since we don't show the English name this
doesn't help the visitor.
Regards,
Andrea.
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