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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Dev LFM <de...@gmail.com> on 2022/08/04 13:21:03 UTC
Re: Board report for June 2022 has been submitted
Hi all,
Despite the lack of activity, I just wanna say that I do currently
maintain some complex apps made with Flex sdk and adobe air. The biggest
issue I had was to embed adobe air x64 and build it for new apple silicon,
which I must say it haves a great performance on m1 chip. My apps
despite +7 years old, still look modern (thanks to the skin I made
https://github.com/rui-cruz/Spark-Material) and customers don't complain at
all.
So my question is, what does this move means for the future of the apps I
maintain?
Just a side note: Have u guys ever considered to implement rxjs? Or just
promises and the async prefix?
kind regards to all,
Rui Cruz
Olaf Krüger <ok...@apache.org> escreveu no dia quinta, 9/06/2022 à(s)
06:41:
> >I would add that questions about Flex have been posted to Royale mailing
> lists.
>
> Ah thanks, I wasn't aware of this because I do not follow the Royale list.
>
>
> On 2022/06/09 05:35:58 Yishay Weiss wrote:
> > >
> > ## Community Health:
> > During the last quarter, there was no mailing list activity at dev and
> nearly
> > no activity at users.
> >
> > I would add that questions about Flex have been posted to Royale mailing
> lists.
> >
> > From: Olaf Krüger<ma...@apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 8:16 AM
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org<ma...@flex.apache.org>
> > Subject: Board report for June 2022 has been submitted
> >
> > ## Description:
> > The mission of the Apache Flex project is to create and maintain software
> > related to the development of expressive web applications that deploy to
> all
> > major browsers, desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and
> tv)
> >
> > ## Issues:
> > There are no issues requiring board attention.
> >
> > ## Membership Data:
> > Apache Flex was founded 2012-12-19 (9 years ago)
> > There are currently 68 committers and 45 PMC members in this project.
> > The Committer-to-PMC ratio is roughly 3:2.
> >
> > Community changes, past quarter:
> > - No new PMC members. Last addition was Olaf Krüger on 2017-08-28.
> > - No new committers. Last addition was Greg Dove on 2016-09-07.
> >
> > ## Project Activity:
> > No changes have been made to the Flex framework for a long
> > time and it is unlikely that another release will appear.
> > We should think about retiring the project.
> >
> > ## Releases:
> > - Apache Flex SDK 4.16.1 on 2017-11-25
> > - Apache Flex Installer 3.3.2 on 2018-07-14.
> >
> > ## Community Health:
> > During the last quarter, there was no mailing list activity at dev and
> nearly
> > no activity at users.
> >
> >
>
Re: Flex compiler updates..
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
flex-asjs and falcon moved to Royale, but the rest of the links seem to work.
We should probably update the site to get rid of those two links.
Being a release manager is really just going through the build steps, signing artifacts and starting a vote. You have to be willing/able to fix issues that come up in the voting process. A heads up before the release so any tasks that might be done beforehand is advisable.
https://infra.apache.org/release-publishing.html <https://infra.apache.org/release-publishing.html>
> On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Frost, Andrew <An...@Harman.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the quick response! So it seems they've just done their own local patch now..
>
> Not sure what's involved in being a release manager.. but the 'official' source code appears to have all disappeared (i.e. the links from the Flex website referenced under https://flex.apache.org/dev-sourcecode.html). Probably the immediate need for this has disappeared though..
>
> thanks
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> Sent: 06 September 2022 08:59 PM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Flex compiler updates..
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>
> If you are up to taking on making the updates and being a release manager, we should be able to do another release.
>
> Harbs
>
>> On Sep 6, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Frost, Andrew <An...@Harman.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Just wondering whether there is any scope to make any updates to the Flex SDK and the compiler (mxmlc.jar)? There's an issue which appears to have arisen for Java 1.8+ where the incremental build option no longer works, because of a change in the Java implementation. Information/analysis is at https://github.com/airsdk/Adobe-Runtime-Support/issues/2123
>>
>> At the simplest level I was wondering if there's a possibility of anyone (me even) building the compiler and then putting the binaries up somewhere? Seems that it just needs to have the below comparison made at 1s-precision rather than full/millisecond precision:
>> https://github.com/apache/flex-sdk/blob/master/modules/compiler/src/java/flex2/tools/oem/internal/OEMUtil.java#L843
>>
>> Not sure where any updated binaries should go though?!
>>
>> Let me know what you think (or if you'd be able to post onto the github AIRSDK ticket it would be handy!)
>>
>> many thanks
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Flex compiler updates..
Posted by "Frost, Andrew" <An...@Harman.com.INVALID>.
Thanks for the quick response! So it seems they've just done their own local patch now..
Not sure what's involved in being a release manager.. but the 'official' source code appears to have all disappeared (i.e. the links from the Flex website referenced under https://flex.apache.org/dev-sourcecode.html). Probably the immediate need for this has disappeared though..
thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
Sent: 06 September 2022 08:59 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Flex compiler updates..
[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
If you are up to taking on making the updates and being a release manager, we should be able to do another release.
Harbs
> On Sep 6, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Frost, Andrew <An...@Harman.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> Hi guys
>
> Just wondering whether there is any scope to make any updates to the Flex SDK and the compiler (mxmlc.jar)? There's an issue which appears to have arisen for Java 1.8+ where the incremental build option no longer works, because of a change in the Java implementation. Information/analysis is at https://github.com/airsdk/Adobe-Runtime-Support/issues/2123
>
> At the simplest level I was wondering if there's a possibility of anyone (me even) building the compiler and then putting the binaries up somewhere? Seems that it just needs to have the below comparison made at 1s-precision rather than full/millisecond precision:
> https://github.com/apache/flex-sdk/blob/master/modules/compiler/src/java/flex2/tools/oem/internal/OEMUtil.java#L843
>
> Not sure where any updated binaries should go though?!
>
> Let me know what you think (or if you'd be able to post onto the github AIRSDK ticket it would be handy!)
>
> many thanks
>
> Andrew
>
>
Re: Flex compiler updates..
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
If you are up to taking on making the updates and being a release manager, we should be able to do another release.
Harbs
> On Sep 6, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Frost, Andrew <An...@Harman.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> Hi guys
>
> Just wondering whether there is any scope to make any updates to the Flex SDK and the compiler (mxmlc.jar)? There's an issue which appears to have arisen for Java 1.8+ where the incremental build option no longer works, because of a change in the Java implementation. Information/analysis is at https://github.com/airsdk/Adobe-Runtime-Support/issues/2123
>
> At the simplest level I was wondering if there's a possibility of anyone (me even) building the compiler and then putting the binaries up somewhere? Seems that it just needs to have the below comparison made at 1s-precision rather than full/millisecond precision:
> https://github.com/apache/flex-sdk/blob/master/modules/compiler/src/java/flex2/tools/oem/internal/OEMUtil.java#L843
>
> Not sure where any updated binaries should go though?!
>
> Let me know what you think (or if you'd be able to post onto the github AIRSDK ticket it would be handy!)
>
> many thanks
>
> Andrew
>
>
Flex compiler updates..
Posted by "Frost, Andrew" <An...@Harman.com.INVALID>.
Hi guys
Just wondering whether there is any scope to make any updates to the Flex SDK and the compiler (mxmlc.jar)? There's an issue which appears to have arisen for Java 1.8+ where the incremental build option no longer works, because of a change in the Java implementation. Information/analysis is at https://github.com/airsdk/Adobe-Runtime-Support/issues/2123
At the simplest level I was wondering if there's a possibility of anyone (me even) building the compiler and then putting the binaries up somewhere? Seems that it just needs to have the below comparison made at 1s-precision rather than full/millisecond precision:
https://github.com/apache/flex-sdk/blob/master/modules/compiler/src/java/flex2/tools/oem/internal/OEMUtil.java#L843
Not sure where any updated binaries should go though?!
Let me know what you think (or if you'd be able to post onto the github AIRSDK ticket it would be handy!)
many thanks
Andrew
Re: Board report for June 2022 has been submitted
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Good to hear!
> Just a side note: Have u guys ever considered to implement rxjs? Or just
> promises and the async prefix?
I’ve toyed with the idea of implementing rxjs, but I haven’t yet encountered a use case compelling enough for me to want to learn and implement it…
Royale supports Promises.
There’s been no discussion yet about adding async/await to AS3.
Personally, I’ve used Promises as well as async/await pretty extensively in JS code and I’m not a fan. I believe it to be an anti-pattern. Promises area a horrible syntax and await needs to be wrapped in a try/catch. To me that’s code smell.
The pattern I’ve been using *very* extensively recently is one I call AyncTasks. It unabashedly uses callbacks, but the lifecycle is very standardized, lends itself to strongly typed results and is really easy to use.
https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/blob/develop/frameworks/projects/Core/src/main/royale/org/apache/royale/utils/async/AsyncTask.as
> On Aug 4, 2022, at 4:21 PM, Dev LFM <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Despite the lack of activity, I just wanna say that I do currently
> maintain some complex apps made with Flex sdk and adobe air. The biggest
> issue I had was to embed adobe air x64 and build it for new apple silicon,
> which I must say it haves a great performance on m1 chip. My apps
> despite +7 years old, still look modern (thanks to the skin I made
> https://github.com/rui-cruz/Spark-Material) and customers don't complain at
> all.
>
> So my question is, what does this move means for the future of the apps I
> maintain?
>
> Just a side note: Have u guys ever considered to implement rxjs? Or just
> promises and the async prefix?
>
> kind regards to all,
> Rui Cruz
>
> Olaf Krüger <ok...@apache.org> escreveu no dia quinta, 9/06/2022 à(s)
> 06:41:
>
>>> I would add that questions about Flex have been posted to Royale mailing
>> lists.
>>
>> Ah thanks, I wasn't aware of this because I do not follow the Royale list.
>>
>>
>> On 2022/06/09 05:35:58 Yishay Weiss wrote:
>>>>
>>> ## Community Health:
>>> During the last quarter, there was no mailing list activity at dev and
>> nearly
>>> no activity at users.
>>>
>>> I would add that questions about Flex have been posted to Royale mailing
>> lists.
>>>
>>> From: Olaf Krüger<ma...@apache.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 8:16 AM
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org<ma...@flex.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Board report for June 2022 has been submitted
>>>
>>> ## Description:
>>> The mission of the Apache Flex project is to create and maintain software
>>> related to the development of expressive web applications that deploy to
>> all
>>> major browsers, desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and
>> tv)
>>>
>>> ## Issues:
>>> There are no issues requiring board attention.
>>>
>>> ## Membership Data:
>>> Apache Flex was founded 2012-12-19 (9 years ago)
>>> There are currently 68 committers and 45 PMC members in this project.
>>> The Committer-to-PMC ratio is roughly 3:2.
>>>
>>> Community changes, past quarter:
>>> - No new PMC members. Last addition was Olaf Krüger on 2017-08-28.
>>> - No new committers. Last addition was Greg Dove on 2016-09-07.
>>>
>>> ## Project Activity:
>>> No changes have been made to the Flex framework for a long
>>> time and it is unlikely that another release will appear.
>>> We should think about retiring the project.
>>>
>>> ## Releases:
>>> - Apache Flex SDK 4.16.1 on 2017-11-25
>>> - Apache Flex Installer 3.3.2 on 2018-07-14.
>>>
>>> ## Community Health:
>>> During the last quarter, there was no mailing list activity at dev and
>> nearly
>>> no activity at users.
>>>
>>>
>>