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[jira] Created: (FOR-1090) ODT Plugin needs an Icon
ODT Plugin needs an Icon
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Key: FOR-1090
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090
Project: Forrest
Issue Type: Improvement
Components: Plugin: Output.OOo
Reporter: Gavin
Priority: Minor
Attachments: odt_icon.png
The odt output format for OOo plugin needs an Icon to use on output html pages.
It is intended to add an image and link similar to the PDF icon used currently.
I can find any proper odt image icon on the OpenOffice site.
I will attach an image I found that fits the job, but want to know if it is suitable and what the license issues might be.
Will continue to look for an official one though.
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Re: [jira] Closed: (FOR-1090) ODT Plugin needs an Icon
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Gavin wrote:
> From: David Crossley
> > David Crossley wrote:
> > > Gavin (JIRA) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090 ]
> > > >
> > > > Gavin closed FOR-1090.
> > > > ----------------------
> > > >
> > > > Resolution: Fixed
> > > >
> > > > Using the odt_dist.png icon, could not get any answers from OpenOffice
> > themselves, I emailed without reply.
> > >
> > > Wait on, -1
> > >
> > > You need to tell us where you found this icon and you need
> > > to be sure of its license.
> > >
> > > Just because they did not answer your email, that does
> > > not mean that we can use it.
> > >
> > > If it is one of the licenses listed on
> > > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
> > > then you can use it. Otherwise make a case to the
> > > "legal-discuss@" list, explaining exactly what you
> > > want to do. Search that list first.
> > >
> > > See ...
> > > http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#licenses
> > >
> > > I have not reviewed that document.
> >
> > Using some organisations icons and trademarks required specific
> > approval. For example see what we, the ASF, require:
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html#Marks
> >
> > Even if we did get approval, it might not mean that we can
> > pass it on to downstream packagers and distributors of
> > or Apache Forrest products.
>
> Apologies, I waited over a month and got no comments from this list,
> ...
As with everything at ASF, you the developer who wants it
to happen, should jump in and do the work to be sure that
it is okay. You cannot rely on the rest of us explaining
or doing it for you.
I saw your earlier minimal comment, but i was waiting for
you to provide the missing information.
> ... from OpenOffice.org, openoffice marketing, sun, or anyone.
This is the first that we have heard of that.
> <snip stuff that didn't make the 10 second rule>
I don't understand that.
> so anyway, I'll just my own in the meantime.
Yes, it is often easier to make one's own images.
In the past someone offered in our mail archives
to create an "icons set" for Forrest. Don't know
what happened.
I have often wondered about Forrest doing this itself.
A small SVG source file would automatically generate
a PNG format icon. i.e small rectangular icon with
just the letters "PDF", or "POD", or "ODT", etc.
See the example that creates the "MyGroup" or "MyTitle"
banner images in a "forrest seed-sample" site.
> I have emailed their marketing dept, so we'll see what happens.
You should Cc private@ forrest. This enables the rest of
us to keep an eye on what is happening.
-David
> Most of their stuff is LGPL, which we cant use (but mainly refers to code
> and redistribution and/or contribution of), but some stuff like logos and
> other artwork fall into a PDL (Public Documentation License), I'll have to
> look into that and perhaps liaise with legal as that is currently not
> mentioned on the page you referred to earlier.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gav...
RE: [jira] Closed: (FOR-1090) ODT Plugin needs an Icon
Posted by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Crossley [mailto:crossley@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 7:01 PM
> To: dev@forrest.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [jira] Closed: (FOR-1090) ODT Plugin needs an Icon
>
> David Crossley wrote:
> > Gavin (JIRA) wrote:
> > >
> > > [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-
> 1090?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
> > >
> > > Gavin closed FOR-1090.
> > > ----------------------
> > >
> > > Resolution: Fixed
> > >
> > > Using the odt_dist.png icon, could not get any answers from OpenOffice
> themselves, I emailed without reply.
> >
> > Wait on, -1
> >
> > You need to tell us where you found this icon and you need
> > to be sure of its license.
> >
> > Just because they did not answer your email, that does
> > not mean that we can use it.
> >
> > If it is one of the licenses listed on
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
> > then you can use it. Otherwise make a case to the
> > "legal-discuss@" list, explaining exactly what you
> > want to do. Search that list first.
> >
> > See ...
> > http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#licenses
> >
> > I have not reviewed that document.
>
> Using some organisations icons and trademarks required specific
> approval. For example see what we, the ASF, require:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html#Marks
>
> Even if we did get approval, it might not mean that we can
> pass it on to downstream packagers and distributors of
> or Apache Forrest products.
>
> -David
Apologies, I waited over a month and got no comments from this list, from
OpenOffice.org, openoffice marketing, sun, or anyone.
<snip stuff that didn't make the 10 second rule>
so anyway, I'll just my own in the meantime.
I have emailed their marketing dept, so we'll see what happens.
Most of their stuff is LGPL, which we cant use (but mainly refers to code
and redistribution and/or contribution of), but some stuff like logos and
other artwork fall into a PDL (Public Documentation License), I'll have to
look into that and perhaps liaise with legal as that is currently not
mentioned on the page you referred to earlier.
Thanks
Gav...
http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/29949/OpenOffice.o
rg%20Style%20Manual%20(Version%200.9).pdf
>
> > > > ODT Plugin needs an Icon
> > > > ------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Key: FOR-1090
> > > > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090
> > > > Project: Forrest
> > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > Components: Plugin: Output.OOo
> > > > Reporter: Gavin
> > > > Priority: Minor
> > > > Attachments: odt-dist.png, odt_icon.png
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The odt output format for OOo plugin needs an Icon to use on output
> html pages.
> > > > It is intended to add an image and link similar to the PDF icon used
> currently.
> > > > I can find any proper odt image icon on the OpenOffice site.
> > > > I will attach an image I found that fits the job, but want to know
> if it is suitable and what the license issues might be.
> > > > Will continue to look for an official one though.
> > >
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Re: [jira] Closed: (FOR-1090) ODT Plugin needs an Icon
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
David Crossley wrote:
> Gavin (JIRA) wrote:
> >
> > [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
> >
> > Gavin closed FOR-1090.
> > ----------------------
> >
> > Resolution: Fixed
> >
> > Using the odt_dist.png icon, could not get any answers from OpenOffice themselves, I emailed without reply.
>
> Wait on, -1
>
> You need to tell us where you found this icon and you need
> to be sure of its license.
>
> Just because they did not answer your email, that does
> not mean that we can use it.
>
> If it is one of the licenses listed on
> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
> then you can use it. Otherwise make a case to the
> "legal-discuss@" list, explaining exactly what you
> want to do. Search that list first.
>
> See ...
> http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#licenses
>
> I have not reviewed that document.
Using some organisations icons and trademarks required specific
approval. For example see what we, the ASF, require:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html#Marks
Even if we did get approval, it might not mean that we can
pass it on to downstream packagers and distributors of
or Apache Forrest products.
-David
> > > ODT Plugin needs an Icon
> > > ------------------------
> > >
> > > Key: FOR-1090
> > > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090
> > > Project: Forrest
> > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > Components: Plugin: Output.OOo
> > > Reporter: Gavin
> > > Priority: Minor
> > > Attachments: odt-dist.png, odt_icon.png
> > >
> > >
> > > The odt output format for OOo plugin needs an Icon to use on output html pages.
> > > It is intended to add an image and link similar to the PDF icon used currently.
> > > I can find any proper odt image icon on the OpenOffice site.
> > > I will attach an image I found that fits the job, but want to know if it is suitable and what the license issues might be.
> > > Will continue to look for an official one though.
> >
> > --
> > This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
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> > You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
> >
>
Re: [jira] Closed: (FOR-1090) ODT Plugin needs an Icon
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Gavin (JIRA) wrote:
>
> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
>
> Gavin closed FOR-1090.
> ----------------------
>
> Resolution: Fixed
>
> Using the odt_dist.png icon, could not get any answers from OpenOffice themselves, I emailed without reply.
Wait on, -1
You need to tell us where you found this icon and you need
to be sure of its license.
Just because they did not answer your email, that does
not mean that we can use it.
If it is one of the licenses listed on
http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
then you can use it. Otherwise make a case to the
"legal-discuss@" list, explaining exactly what you
want to do. Search that list first.
See ...
http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#licenses
I have not reviewed that document.
-David
> > ODT Plugin needs an Icon
> > ------------------------
> >
> > Key: FOR-1090
> > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090
> > Project: Forrest
> > Issue Type: Improvement
> > Components: Plugin: Output.OOo
> > Reporter: Gavin
> > Priority: Minor
> > Attachments: odt-dist.png, odt_icon.png
> >
> >
> > The odt output format for OOo plugin needs an Icon to use on output html pages.
> > It is intended to add an image and link similar to the PDF icon used currently.
> > I can find any proper odt image icon on the OpenOffice site.
> > I will attach an image I found that fits the job, but want to know if it is suitable and what the license issues might be.
> > Will continue to look for an official one though.
>
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[jira] Reopened: (FOR-1090) ODT Plugin needs an Icon
Posted by "Gavin (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
Gavin reopened FOR-1090:
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Assignee: Gavin
Hasty, need to resolve licensing aspects.
> ODT Plugin needs an Icon
> ------------------------
>
> Key: FOR-1090
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090
> Project: Forrest
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Plugin: Output.OOo
> Reporter: Gavin
> Assignee: Gavin
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: odt-dist.png, odt_icon.png
>
>
> The odt output format for OOo plugin needs an Icon to use on output html pages.
> It is intended to add an image and link similar to the PDF icon used currently.
> I can find any proper odt image icon on the OpenOffice site.
> I will attach an image I found that fits the job, but want to know if it is suitable and what the license issues might be.
> Will continue to look for an official one though.
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[jira] Updated: (FOR-1090) ODT Plugin needs an Icon
Posted by "Gavin (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
Gavin updated FOR-1090:
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Attachment: odt_icon.png
odt-icon.png attached.
> ODT Plugin needs an Icon
> ------------------------
>
> Key: FOR-1090
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090
> Project: Forrest
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Plugin: Output.OOo
> Reporter: Gavin
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: odt_icon.png
>
>
> The odt output format for OOo plugin needs an Icon to use on output html pages.
> It is intended to add an image and link similar to the PDF icon used currently.
> I can find any proper odt image icon on the OpenOffice site.
> I will attach an image I found that fits the job, but want to know if it is suitable and what the license issues might be.
> Will continue to look for an official one though.
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[jira] Closed: (FOR-1090) ODT Plugin needs an Icon
Posted by "Gavin (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
Gavin closed FOR-1090.
----------------------
Resolution: Fixed
Using the odt_dist.png icon, could not get any answers from OpenOffice themselves, I emailed without reply.
> ODT Plugin needs an Icon
> ------------------------
>
> Key: FOR-1090
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090
> Project: Forrest
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Plugin: Output.OOo
> Reporter: Gavin
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: odt-dist.png, odt_icon.png
>
>
> The odt output format for OOo plugin needs an Icon to use on output html pages.
> It is intended to add an image and link similar to the PDF icon used currently.
> I can find any proper odt image icon on the OpenOffice site.
> I will attach an image I found that fits the job, but want to know if it is suitable and what the license issues might be.
> Will continue to look for an official one though.
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[jira] Updated: (FOR-1090) ODT Plugin needs an Icon
Posted by "Gavin (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
Gavin updated FOR-1090:
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Attachment: odt-dist.png
odt-dist.png is another possible.
> ODT Plugin needs an Icon
> ------------------------
>
> Key: FOR-1090
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1090
> Project: Forrest
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Plugin: Output.OOo
> Reporter: Gavin
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: odt-dist.png, odt_icon.png
>
>
> The odt output format for OOo plugin needs an Icon to use on output html pages.
> It is intended to add an image and link similar to the PDF icon used currently.
> I can find any proper odt image icon on the OpenOffice site.
> I will attach an image I found that fits the job, but want to know if it is suitable and what the license issues might be.
> Will continue to look for an official one though.
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