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[VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
previous RC1 proposal.
RC2 Release is here:
http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
Tag is here:
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
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[ ] +1 I support this release
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net>.
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From: "Mladen Turk" <mt...@apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:02 AM
To: "Commons Developers List" <de...@commons.apache.org>
Subject: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
> previous RC1 proposal.
>
> RC2 Release is here:
> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
> Tag is here:
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>
> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>
> ---------------
> [X] +1 I support this release (non-binding)
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
> ----------------
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
On 02/24/2010 02:44 AM, sebb wrote:
>
> Are you sure they are all machine-generated?
> What application generates them?
>
> Note that I've not included the .rc files which have the heading:
> //Microsoft Developer Studio generated resource script
>
httpd: Makefile.win, httpd.spec, Makefile.in ...
tomcat: Some mod_jk Makefiles, native .rc files ...
apr: Makefile.win, NWGNUmakefile, build/*.py
Probably around 1000000 files more in the ASF SVN.
All those files are hand crafted, and have no ASL header.
So what? Who cares?
I just think you've missed the point.
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 24/02/2010, Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "sebb" <se...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:44 PM
> To: "Commons Developers List" <de...@commons.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
>
>
> > On 24/02/2010, Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > From: "Mladen Turk" <mt...@apache.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:08 AM
> > > To: "Commons Developers List" <de...@commons.apache.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 02/23/2010 01:04 PM, sebb wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 23/02/2010, Mladen Turk<mt...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
> > > > > > previous RC1 proposal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RC2 Release is here:
> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
> > > > > > Tag is here:
> > > > > >
> > >
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -1 because:
> > > > >
> > > > > There are still some files without AL headers:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I won't add them because they are not needed.
> > > > This is really getting to look like a nit-picking to me :(
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I agree with Mladen, the headers aren't needed in these files. There
> is
> > > zero creative content in any of these files (they are
> machine-generated).
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Are you sure they are all machine-generated?
> > What application generates them?
> >
> >
>
> The three Makefiles might be hand generated, and I can't be bothered to
> sift through the Tomcat archives to find out. I've added headers to them,
> but they should be considered for removal, since I can't see that you would
> get more than a partially functioning program if you used them. Of course,
> they build the deprecated Windows service wrapper, which should also be
> considered for removal at some point.
>
> The files under the procrun directory are generated by Microsoft Developer
> Studio using the "Export Makefile" option. They are just a machine
> translation of the information in the corresponding .dsp file, provided to
> allow someone to build procrun if they only have the MS-SDK installed
> instead of the full Developer Studio. As such, they can't be copywrited,
> and would be impossible to maintain (since the header would get erased every
> time they are updated).
>
OK, thanks for the information. That's very useful to know.
Might be useful to add it to the README file at some point.
I raised the issue because the RAT report showed that several files
did not have headers.
It was not obvious to me at the time that these were generated files.
I withdraw my objection to the missing AL headers; as you say, it
would not be appropriate to add them to the exported files.
>
> > Note that I've not included the .rc files which have the heading:
> > //Microsoft Developer Studio generated resource script
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net>.
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From: "sebb" <se...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:44 PM
To: "Commons Developers List" <de...@commons.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
> On 24/02/2010, Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Mladen Turk" <mt...@apache.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:08 AM
>> To: "Commons Developers List" <de...@commons.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
>>
>>
>> > On 02/23/2010 01:04 PM, sebb wrote:
>> >
>> > > On 23/02/2010, Mladen Turk<mt...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
>> > > > previous RC1 proposal.
>> > > >
>> > > > RC2 Release is here:
>> > > > http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
>> > > > Tag is here:
>> > > >
>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > -1 because:
>> > >
>> > > There are still some files without AL headers:
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > I won't add them because they are not needed.
>> > This is really getting to look like a nit-picking to me :(
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I agree with Mladen, the headers aren't needed in these files. There is
>> zero creative content in any of these files (they are machine-generated).
>>
>
> Are you sure they are all machine-generated?
> What application generates them?
>
The three Makefiles might be hand generated, and I can't be bothered to sift
through the Tomcat archives to find out. I've added headers to them, but
they should be considered for removal, since I can't see that you would get
more than a partially functioning program if you used them. Of course, they
build the deprecated Windows service wrapper, which should also be
considered for removal at some point.
The files under the procrun directory are generated by Microsoft Developer
Studio using the "Export Makefile" option. They are just a machine
translation of the information in the corresponding .dsp file, provided to
allow someone to build procrun if they only have the MS-SDK installed
instead of the full Developer Studio. As such, they can't be copywrited,
and would be impossible to maintain (since the header would get erased every
time they are updated).
> Note that I've not included the .rc files which have the heading:
> //Microsoft Developer Studio generated resource script
>
>>
>> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 24/02/2010, Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Mladen Turk" <mt...@apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:08 AM
> To: "Commons Developers List" <de...@commons.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
>
>
> > On 02/23/2010 01:04 PM, sebb wrote:
> >
> > > On 23/02/2010, Mladen Turk<mt...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
> > > > previous RC1 proposal.
> > > >
> > > > RC2 Release is here:
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
> > > > Tag is here:
> > > >
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
> > > >
> > >
> > > -1 because:
> > >
> > > There are still some files without AL headers:
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I won't add them because they are not needed.
> > This is really getting to look like a nit-picking to me :(
> >
> >
>
> I agree with Mladen, the headers aren't needed in these files. There is
> zero creative content in any of these files (they are machine-generated).
>
Are you sure they are all machine-generated?
What application generates them?
Note that I've not included the .rc files which have the heading:
//Microsoft Developer Studio generated resource script
>
> >
> > Regards
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net>.
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From: "Mladen Turk" <mt...@apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:08 AM
To: "Commons Developers List" <de...@commons.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
> On 02/23/2010 01:04 PM, sebb wrote:
>> On 23/02/2010, Mladen Turk<mt...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
>>> previous RC1 proposal.
>>>
>>> RC2 Release is here:
>>> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
>>> Tag is here:
>>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>>
>> -1 because:
>>
>> There are still some files without AL headers:
>>
>
> I won't add them because they are not needed.
> This is really getting to look like a nit-picking to me :(
>
I agree with Mladen, the headers aren't needed in these files. There is
zero creative content in any of these files (they are machine-generated).
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
On 02/23/2010 01:04 PM, sebb wrote:
> On 23/02/2010, Mladen Turk<mt...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
>> previous RC1 proposal.
>>
>> RC2 Release is here:
>> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
>> Tag is here:
>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>
> -1 because:
>
> There are still some files without AL headers:
>
I won't add them because they are not needed.
This is really getting to look like a nit-picking to me :(
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 23/02/2010, Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org> wrote:
> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
> previous RC1 proposal.
>
> RC2 Release is here:
> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
> Tag is here:
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
-1 because:
There are still some files without AL headers:
src/native/nt/Makefile
src/native/nt/moni/Makefile
src/native/nt/procrun/apps/prunmgr/prunmgr.amd64
src/native/nt/procrun/apps/prunmgr/prunmgr.ia64
src/native/nt/procrun/apps/prunmgr/prunmgr.x86
src/native/nt/procrun/apps/prunsrv/prunsrv.amd64
src/native/nt/procrun/apps/prunsrv/prunsrv.ia64
src/native/nt/procrun/apps/prunsrv/prunsrv.x86
src/native/nt/procrun/libprocrun.amd64
src/native/nt/procrun/libprocrun.ia64
src/native/nt/procrun/libprocrun.x86
src/native/nt/service/Makefile
> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>
> ---------------
> [ ] +1 I support this release
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
> ----------------
>
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> of votes collected.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Phil Steitz <ph...@gmail.com>.
Mladen Turk wrote:
> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
> previous RC1 proposal.
>
> RC2 Release is here:
> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
> Tag is here:
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>
>
> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>
> ---------------
> [ ] +1 I support this release
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
> ----------------
>
> Vote will close from 24 to 72 hours depending on the number
> of votes collected.
>
> Regards
+1
Phil
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
+1
Niall
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org> wrote:
> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
> previous RC1 proposal.
>
> RC2 Release is here:
> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
> Tag is here:
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>
> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>
> ---------------
> [ ] +1 I support this release
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
> ----------------
>
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> of votes collected.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 24/02/2010 10:00, Bill Barker wrote:
> yes, but as I've stated before, my vote doesn't count (only PMC member's
> votes count, and I'm only a commiter to commons). It still needs at
> least one more binding +1 to pass.
Sorry - I did see that note on your vote and promptly forgot it.
Mark
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net>.
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From: "Mark Thomas" <ma...@apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:30 AM
To: "Commons Developers List" <de...@commons.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
> On 24/02/2010 09:05, Henri Yandell wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Henri Yandell<fl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Bill Barker<bi...@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "jean-frederic clere"<jf...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:48 PM
>>>> To:<de...@commons.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
>>>>
>>>>> On 02/23/2010 09:02 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
>>>>>> previous RC1 proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RC2 Release is here:
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
>>>>>> Tag is here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
>>>>>> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>> [X] +1 I support this release
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so we have three people listed as developers for this project
>>>> approving
>>>> the release, including the author of the three remaining disputed
>>>> files. Can
>>>> we get a couple more votes, to actually release this?
>>>
>>> Is the objection to the -1 that the files should never contain the AL
>>> header, or is the objection that it shouldn't be a release blocker?
>>
>> Scratch that - I see that the files have had headers added by Bill.
>>
>> Sebb - I don't think this is a release blocker. The three Makefiles
>> are pretty piddly, and it's fixed for a subsequent version. Wondering
>> if you can reconsider on your -1.
>
> It doesn't matter. Releases can not be vetoed. Period.
>
> At my count this release has three +1 votes and one -1 vote. That is
> sufficient for a release. It is up to the release manager to decide if the
> issues raised by the -1 vote are sufficient to stop the release or if they
> want to go ahead with the release. Unless I have completely misunderstood
> Mladen's views, he wants to go ahead with this and he now has the votes to
> do so.
>
yes, but as I've stated before, my vote doesn't count (only PMC member's
votes count, and I'm only a commiter to commons). It still needs at least
one more binding +1 to pass.
> Mark
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
On 02/24/2010 10:42 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>
>> Fair enough. That is what http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>> says, though I don't recall this list not working to consensus for a
>> release.
>
> I just meant that it's not been the style afaik up to now. No
> implication either way - we'll adapt.
>
I agree that release vote is not an popularity content.
However, any PMC must comply to the ASF bylaws, and it happens
that for a good reason release voting has been made as such.
Anyhow, I will give 72 hours for that vote
that will end on Friday 8:00 GMT, calc votes and act accordingly
unless Sebastian withdraws his -1, since AFAICT we
have a general consensus on that and enough votes.
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 24/02/2010 09:05, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Henri Yandell<fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Bill Barker<bi...@verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "jean-frederic clere"<jf...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:48 PM
>>>>> To:<de...@commons.apache.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/23/2010 09:02 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
>>>>>>> previous RC1 proposal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RC2 Release is here:
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
>>>>>>> Tag is here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
>>>>>>> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>>> [X] +1 I support this release
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, so we have three people listed as developers for this project
>>>>> approving
>>>>> the release, including the author of the three remaining disputed files.
>>>>> Can
>>>>> we get a couple more votes, to actually release this?
>>>>
>>>> Is the objection to the -1 that the files should never contain the AL
>>>> header, or is the objection that it shouldn't be a release blocker?
>>>
>>> Scratch that - I see that the files have had headers added by Bill.
>>>
>>> Sebb - I don't think this is a release blocker. The three Makefiles
>>> are pretty piddly, and it's fixed for a subsequent version. Wondering
>>> if you can reconsider on your -1.
>>
>> It doesn't matter. Releases can not be vetoed. Period.
>>
>> At my count this release has three +1 votes and one -1 vote. That is
>> sufficient for a release. It is up to the release manager to decide if the
>> issues raised by the -1 vote are sufficient to stop the release or if they
>> want to go ahead with the release. Unless I have completely misunderstood
>> Mladen's views, he wants to go ahead with this and he now has the votes to
>> do so.
>
> Fair enough. That is what http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
> says, though I don't recall this list not working to consensus for a
> release.
*sigh*... late. That sounds petulant :)
I just meant that it's not been the style afaik up to now. No
implication either way - we'll adapt.
Hen
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 24/02/2010 09:05, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Henri Yandell<fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Bill Barker<bi...@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "jean-frederic clere"<jf...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:48 PM
>>>> To:<de...@commons.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
>>>>
>>>>> On 02/23/2010 09:02 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
>>>>>> previous RC1 proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RC2 Release is here:
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
>>>>>> Tag is here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
>>>>>> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>> [X] +1 I support this release
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so we have three people listed as developers for this project
>>>> approving
>>>> the release, including the author of the three remaining disputed files.
>>>> Can
>>>> we get a couple more votes, to actually release this?
>>>
>>> Is the objection to the -1 that the files should never contain the AL
>>> header, or is the objection that it shouldn't be a release blocker?
>>
>> Scratch that - I see that the files have had headers added by Bill.
>>
>> Sebb - I don't think this is a release blocker. The three Makefiles
>> are pretty piddly, and it's fixed for a subsequent version. Wondering
>> if you can reconsider on your -1.
>
> It doesn't matter. Releases can not be vetoed. Period.
>
> At my count this release has three +1 votes and one -1 vote. That is
> sufficient for a release. It is up to the release manager to decide if the
> issues raised by the -1 vote are sufficient to stop the release or if they
> want to go ahead with the release. Unless I have completely misunderstood
> Mladen's views, he wants to go ahead with this and he now has the votes to
> do so.
Fair enough. That is what http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
says, though I don't recall this list not working to consensus for a
release.
Hen
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 24/02/2010 09:05, Henri Yandell wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Henri Yandell<fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Bill Barker<bi...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "jean-frederic clere"<jf...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:48 PM
>>> To:<de...@commons.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
>>>
>>>> On 02/23/2010 09:02 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
>>>>> previous RC1 proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> RC2 Release is here:
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
>>>>> Tag is here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
>>>>> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------
>>>>> [X] +1 I support this release
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, so we have three people listed as developers for this project approving
>>> the release, including the author of the three remaining disputed files. Can
>>> we get a couple more votes, to actually release this?
>>
>> Is the objection to the -1 that the files should never contain the AL
>> header, or is the objection that it shouldn't be a release blocker?
>
> Scratch that - I see that the files have had headers added by Bill.
>
> Sebb - I don't think this is a release blocker. The three Makefiles
> are pretty piddly, and it's fixed for a subsequent version. Wondering
> if you can reconsider on your -1.
It doesn't matter. Releases can not be vetoed. Period.
At my count this release has three +1 votes and one -1 vote. That is
sufficient for a release. It is up to the release manager to decide if
the issues raised by the -1 vote are sufficient to stop the release or
if they want to go ahead with the release. Unless I have completely
misunderstood Mladen's views, he wants to go ahead with this and he now
has the votes to do so.
Mark
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "jean-frederic clere" <jf...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:48 PM
>> To: <de...@commons.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
>>
>>> On 02/23/2010 09:02 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
>>>> previous RC1 proposal.
>>>>
>>>> RC2 Release is here:
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
>>>> Tag is here:
>>>>
>>>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
>>>> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>>>>
>>>> ---------------
>>>> [X] +1 I support this release
>>>
>>
>> Ok, so we have three people listed as developers for this project approving
>> the release, including the author of the three remaining disputed files. Can
>> we get a couple more votes, to actually release this?
>
> Is the objection to the -1 that the files should never contain the AL
> header, or is the objection that it shouldn't be a release blocker?
Scratch that - I see that the files have had headers added by Bill.
Sebb - I don't think this is a release blocker. The three Makefiles
are pretty piddly, and it's fixed for a subsequent version. Wondering
if you can reconsider on your -1.
Hen
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "jean-frederic clere" <jf...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:48 PM
> To: <de...@commons.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
>
>> On 02/23/2010 09:02 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
>>>
>>> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
>>> previous RC1 proposal.
>>>
>>> RC2 Release is here:
>>> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
>>> Tag is here:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>>>
>>>
>>> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
>>> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>>>
>>> ---------------
>>> [X] +1 I support this release
>>
>
> Ok, so we have three people listed as developers for this project approving
> the release, including the author of the three remaining disputed files. Can
> we get a couple more votes, to actually release this?
Is the objection to the -1 that the files should never contain the AL
header, or is the objection that it shouldn't be a release blocker?
Hen
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by Bill Barker <bi...@verizon.net>.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "jean-frederic clere" <jf...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:48 PM
To: <de...@commons.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
> On 02/23/2010 09:02 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
>> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
>> previous RC1 proposal.
>>
>> RC2 Release is here:
>> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
>> Tag is here:
>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>>
>>
>> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
>> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>>
>> ---------------
>> [X] +1 I support this release
>
Ok, so we have three people listed as developers for this project approving
the release, including the author of the three remaining disputed files.
Can we get a couple more votes, to actually release this?
> Cheers
>
> Jean-Frederic
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Daemon 1.0.2 based on RC2
Posted by jean-frederic clere <jf...@gmail.com>.
On 02/23/2010 09:02 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
> Daemon RC2 fixes some minor distribution issues over the
> previous RC1 proposal.
>
> RC2 Release is here:
> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/daemon/
> Tag is here:
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/daemon/tags/COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2/
>
>
> If voted for a release the COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2_RC2 tag will
> be copied to COMMONS_DAEMON_1_0_2 and released as such.
>
> ---------------
> [X] +1 I support this release
Cheers
Jean-Frederic
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