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RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Hi,

I had an initial support request on RDP File Transfer last week, as I couldn't get it to work.

However, that was on my test win2019 VM, where it works fine on 2012R2.

My security setting is NLA, but I also tried with TLS and Any. (ignore cert).

Is this a Guacamole limitation or Windows security change since 2016?

Running CENTOS 7.5 and Guacamole 1.1.0 from ZeroCool setup script.

Thanks Peter

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RE: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by "Newman, Dennis" <de...@spglobal.com>.
I would appreciate details as well.
Thanks

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Hey,

Thanks; I was thinking about providing a similar setup, as I can imagine users filling up the data drive of the Guacamole server using this approach, and that's not what we want.

Is there any more details on how to correctly configure this, including the NGINX settings in the documentation?

-----Original Message-----
From: sciUser <sh...@securitycentric.net>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:21 PM
To: user@guacamole.apache.org
Subject: Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

we set this up using NFS to our filer, check permissions use, getfacl <foldername> to get current acls, should be for /Downloads/{GUACUSER};

# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::---
other::---

Again our use case is that our provisioning platform controls guacamole and we write to the database directly to create the connections and using a JIT/Zero Trust method to assign users.
You will also need to adjust the apache/nginx file transfer size then restart the service.
we have tested up 8TB with no issues, however we did dial it back to 1TB per user.

Hope this helps.





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Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be>.
This is really useful, thanks for sharing this!

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From: sciUser <sh...@securitycentric.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 18:18
To: user@guacamole.apache.org <us...@guacamole.apache.org>
Subject: RE: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

To allow nginx to handle large file transfers you will need to navigate to
/etc/nginx use you editor on nginx.conf then add or make adjustments to the
following.  As you will see we allow up to 10G per user.

    sendfile on;
    client_max_body_size 10000m;
    #tcp_nopush on;
    keepalive_timeout  65;

Save and restart nginx.

For */Downloads/{GUACUSER};*
Here is a little trick for NAS or secondary SR storage.

1. You can use a traditional NAS and NFS mounts
2. Local storage with NFS (Secondary Disc and make local NFS mount)
3. USB 3.1 Storage with NFS (Do not use Flash, this is for SSD)

In my use case I use option 2 (10TB Raid 5 15k RPM SAS)and then attach a 2TB
VDI to the Guacamole VM, this is where we have short term users use for
storage.  Long term users get attached to a 30TB 10Gbe array.








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RE: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by sciUser <sh...@securitycentric.net>.
To allow nginx to handle large file transfers you will need to navigate to
/etc/nginx use you editor on nginx.conf then add or make adjustments to the
following.  As you will see we allow up to 10G per user.

    sendfile on;
    client_max_body_size 10000m; 
    #tcp_nopush on;
    keepalive_timeout  65;

Save and restart nginx.

For */Downloads/{GUACUSER};*
Here is a little trick for NAS or secondary SR storage. 

1. You can use a traditional NAS and NFS mounts
2. Local storage with NFS (Secondary Disc and make local NFS mount)
3. USB 3.1 Storage with NFS (Do not use Flash, this is for SSD)

In my use case I use option 2 (10TB Raid 5 15k RPM SAS)and then attach a 2TB
VDI to the Guacamole VM, this is where we have short term users use for
storage.  Long term users get attached to a 30TB 10Gbe array. 








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RE: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be>.
Hey,

Thanks; I was thinking about providing a similar setup, as I can imagine users filling up the data drive of the Guacamole server using this approach, and that's not what we want.

Is there any more details on how to correctly configure this, including the NGINX settings in the documentation? 

-----Original Message-----
From: sciUser <sh...@securitycentric.net> 
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:21 PM
To: user@guacamole.apache.org
Subject: Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

we set this up using NFS to our filer, check permissions use, getfacl <foldername> to get current acls, should be for /Downloads/{GUACUSER};

# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::---
other::---

Again our use case is that our provisioning platform controls guacamole and we write to the database directly to create the connections and using a JIT/Zero Trust method to assign users. 
You will also need to adjust the apache/nginx file transfer size then restart the service. 
we have tested up 8TB with no issues, however we did dial it back to 1TB per user. 

Hope this helps.





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Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by sciUser <sh...@securitycentric.net>.
we set this up using NFS to our filer, check permissions use, getfacl
<foldername> to get current acls, should be for /Downloads/{GUACUSER};

# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::---
other::---

Again our use case is that our provisioning platform controls guacamole and
we write to the database directly to create the connections and using a
JIT/Zero Trust method to assign users. 
You will also need to adjust the apache/nginx file transfer size then
restart the service. 
we have tested up 8TB with no issues, however we did dial it back to 1TB per
user. 

Hope this helps.





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Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be>.
Nick,

I just found that "solution" on linuxintro.org  Guacamole wiki 🙂, so thought about giving it a try.

But yes, most probably I should squeeze down the security a bit more...

/Peter

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From: Nick Couchman <vn...@apache.org>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 22:42
To: user@guacamole.apache.org <us...@guacamole.apache.org>
Subject: Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:06 PM Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be>> wrote:
Hey Nick and all,


Good news!

I got this working after running chmod 777 on my "File Exchange" folder on the Guachost, as well as on the Download subfolder.


Ah, I would guess instead of "chmod 777" you just need to change ownership to the user/group running guacd.

-Nick

Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by Nick Couchman <vn...@apache.org>.
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:06 PM Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be> wrote:

> Hey Nick and all,
>
>
> Good news!
>
> I got this working after running chmod 777 on my "File Exchange" folder on
> the Guachost, as well as on the Download subfolder.
>
>
Ah, I would guess instead of "chmod 777" you just need to change
ownership to the user/group running guacd.

-Nick

>

Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be>.
Hey Nick and all,


Good news!

I got this working after running chmod 777 on my "File Exchange" folder on the Guachost, as well as on the Download subfolder.

It now works for all 3 Windows versions, 2012R2, 2016 and 2019.

Sweet!

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From: Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:31:45 PM
To: user@guacamole.apache.org <us...@guacamole.apache.org>
Subject: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Hi,

I had an initial support request on RDP File Transfer last week, as I couldn't get it to work.

However, that was on my test win2019 VM, where it works fine on 2012R2.

My security setting is NLA, but I also tried with TLS and Any. (ignore cert).

Is this a Guacamole limitation or Windows security change since 2016?

Running CENTOS 7.5 and Guacamole 1.1.0 from ZeroCool setup script.

Thanks Peter

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Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be>.
Hey Nick,

It's only file transfers. Even more weird, uploads from my local device to the VM session are going, but files I copy in the Downloads folder of the G-drive get stored in my GuacVM transfer folder, but not triggering my browser to download the actual files.

But only on win2019 and 2016. No issue on 2012r2 with the same settings overall.

Thanks Peter

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From: Nick Couchman <vn...@apache.org>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 4:46:02 PM
To: user@guacamole.apache.org <us...@guacamole.apache.org>
Subject: Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:32 AM Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be>> wrote:
Hi,

I had an initial support request on RDP File Transfer last week, as I couldn't get it to work.

However, that was on my test win2019 VM, where it works fine on 2012R2.

My security setting is NLA, but I also tried with TLS and Any. (ignore cert).

Is this a Guacamole limitation or Windows security change since 2016?

Running CENTOS 7.5 and Guacamole 1.1.0 from ZeroCool setup script.


Is the entire connection failing, or just the ability to transfer files??

-Nick

Re: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by Nick Couchman <vn...@apache.org>.
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:32 AM Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I had an initial support request on RDP File Transfer last week, as I
> couldn't get it to work.
>
> However, that was on my test win2019 VM, where it works fine on 2012R2.
>
> My security setting is NLA, but I also tried with TLS and Any. (ignore
> cert).
>
> Is this a Guacamole limitation or Windows security change since 2016?
>
> Running CENTOS 7.5 and Guacamole 1.1.0 from ZeroCool setup script.
>
>
Is the entire connection failing, or just the ability to transfer files??

-Nick

AW: RDP File transfer not working on windows 2016 or 2019

Posted by Joachim Lindenberg <jo...@lindenberg.one>.
Hi Peter,

for VMs you like hit https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-952. Try security “vmconnect”.

Best Regards, Joachim

 

 

Von: Peter De Tender <pe...@pdtit.be> 
Gesendet: Monday, 11 May 2020 14:32
An: user@guacamole.apache.org
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Hi, 

 

I had an initial support request on RDP File Transfer last week, as I couldn't get it to work. 

 

However, that was on my test win2019 VM, where it works fine on 2012R2.

 

My security setting is NLA, but I also tried with TLS and Any. (ignore cert). 

 

Is this a Guacamole limitation or Windows security change since 2016?

 

Running CENTOS 7.5 and Guacamole 1.1.0 from ZeroCool setup script. 

 

Thanks Peter 

 

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