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Posted to dev@ant.apache.org by Jan Matèrne <ja...@materne.de> on 2015/06/10 08:21:12 UTC

Bug 56721 - "back quote" and "quote"

https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56721

 

The user was irritated by the quoting of the build sequence:

Build sequence for target(s) `release' is [-set-mode-check,
-set-release-mode, ...

 

It starts with a 

`

but ends with a 

'

 

I have no problem with changing both to single quote '

On the other hand I dont see any benefit.

But what do you think?

 

 

Jan


Re: Bug 56721 - "back quote" and "quote"

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2015-06-10, Jan Matèrne wrote:

> https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56721

> The user was irritated by the quoting of the build sequence:

> Build sequence for target(s) `release' is [-set-mode-check,
> -set-release-mode, ...

I haven't checked, but it may have been me.  LaTeX knows about left
and right quotes and uses `` for left and '' for right quotes and I had
adopted this for quite some time.

Personally I don't care whether it gets changed or not.

Stefan

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Re: Bug 56721 - "back quote" and "quote"

Posted by Nicolas Lalevée <ni...@hibnet.org>.
> Le 10 juin 2015 à 08:21, Jan Matèrne <ja...@materne.de> a écrit :
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56721
> 
> 
> 
> The user was irritated by the quoting of the build sequence:
> 
> Build sequence for target(s) `release' is [-set-mode-check,
> -set-release-mode, ...
> 
> 
> 
> It starts with a 
> 
> `
> 
> but ends with a 
> 
> '
> 
> 
> 
> I have no problem with changing both to single quote '
> 
> On the other hand I dont see any benefit.
> 
> But what do you think?

My first though was: who cares ?
Then : that back quote try to put some style to some rude output, why change ?
And then : what is the right way to quote ?
I ended here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark#Electronic_documents <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark#Electronic_documents>
It seems that backquote is a kind of a hack, because semantically wrong. The RIGHT way should be about using the unicode characters U+2018 and U+2019.
But let’s not shoot ourself in the foot by playing with other than ASCII characters in the output.
We should indeed use the apostrophe as a start of the quoting.

So the nerd me is about changing.
The normal me don’t care much :)

Nicolas