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Posted to dev@geode.apache.org by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> on 2016/10/01 03:27:46 UTC
Re: From Incubation to TLP
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Niall Pemberton
<ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Anthony Baker <ab...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi Niall!
>>
>> Thanks for your really helpful input. I agree that development of an
>> active, stable, and diverse community that understands and practices the
>> Apache Way is a primary indicator of readiness for graduation. Do you (or
>> any lurking mentors) have any thoughts on how similar projects have
>> demonstrated community diversity?
>>
>
> I found the last big debate on this on general@incubator (the Ignite
> graduation) and looks like those diversity criteria are redundant:
>
> - http://markmail.org/message/555sxkvkpbzrbvnd
> - http://markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb
Yup. Or may be its not that they are redundant, but rather the whole
framing around diversity is a bit off. The way I look at it is this: the
real goal is to make sure that the community is open, inclusive, collaborative
and welcomes anybody regardless of their affiliation. Having a super
diverse community is one way to qualify. But I think even less diverse
communities can be seen to take "Apache Way" governance model to
heart. And with my Geode's mentor hat on I can definitely say that Geode
community has come a looooong way and is definitely ready from that
standpoint.
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: From Incubation to TLP
Posted by William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>.
Really glad to read this... ;)
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 30, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Niall Pemberton
> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Anthony Baker <ab...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Niall!
>>>
>>> Thanks for your really helpful input. I agree that development of an
>>> active, stable, and diverse community that understands and practices the
>>> Apache Way is a primary indicator of readiness for graduation. Do you (or
>>> any lurking mentors) have any thoughts on how similar projects have
>>> demonstrated community diversity?
>>>
>>
>> I found the last big debate on this on general@incubator (the Ignite
>> graduation) and looks like those diversity criteria are redundant:
>>
>> - http://markmail.org/message/555sxkvkpbzrbvnd
>> - http://markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb
>
> Yup. Or may be its not that they are redundant, but rather the whole
> framing around diversity is a bit off. The way I look at it is this: the
> real goal is to make sure that the community is open, inclusive, collaborative
> and welcomes anybody regardless of their affiliation. Having a super
> diverse community is one way to qualify. But I think even less diverse
> communities can be seen to take "Apache Way" governance model to
> heart. And with my Geode's mentor hat on I can definitely say that Geode
> community has come a looooong way and is definitely ready from that
> standpoint.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
Re: From Incubation to TLP
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Greg Chase <gc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> With the number of hats you have Roman, you can satisfy any diversity requirement...
This may be helpful to fully understand the phenomenon:
http://tinyurl.com/origin-of-shaposhnik
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: From Incubation to TLP
Posted by Greg Chase <gc...@gmail.com>.
With the number of hats you have Roman, you can satisfy any diversity requirement...
This email encrypted by tiny buttons & fat thumbs, beta voice recognition, and autocorrect on my iPhone.
> On Sep 30, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Niall Pemberton
> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Anthony Baker <ab...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Niall!
>>>
>>> Thanks for your really helpful input. I agree that development of an
>>> active, stable, and diverse community that understands and practices the
>>> Apache Way is a primary indicator of readiness for graduation. Do you (or
>>> any lurking mentors) have any thoughts on how similar projects have
>>> demonstrated community diversity?
>>>
>>
>> I found the last big debate on this on general@incubator (the Ignite
>> graduation) and looks like those diversity criteria are redundant:
>>
>> - http://markmail.org/message/555sxkvkpbzrbvnd
>> - http://markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb
>
> Yup. Or may be its not that they are redundant, but rather the whole
> framing around diversity is a bit off. The way I look at it is this: the
> real goal is to make sure that the community is open, inclusive, collaborative
> and welcomes anybody regardless of their affiliation. Having a super
> diverse community is one way to qualify. But I think even less diverse
> communities can be seen to take "Apache Way" governance model to
> heart. And with my Geode's mentor hat on I can definitely say that Geode
> community has come a looooong way and is definitely ready from that
> standpoint.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.