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Posted to users@jena.apache.org by Robert Campbell <rr...@gmail.com> on 2010/12/16 15:37:48 UTC

Missing elements in the model

I'm parsing an XML/RDF model from OpenCalais which looks like this:

...
	<rdf:Description c:contentType="text/raw" c:emVer="7.1.1103.5"
c:langIdVer="DefaultLangId" c:language="English"
c:processingVer="CalaisJob01" c:submissionDate="2009-12-10
06:34:26.635" rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta">
		<rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>
		<c:docId rdf:resource="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824"/>
		<c:submitterCode>c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7</c:submitterCode>
		<c:signature>digestalg-1|BA85RL4uWFjMjCfSa0k6iHqawts=|TTosv0VIPySK4HwUpxl76Yvh/ZwIjjCGwCRBAqjB+tDkZNcQUHmLUQ==</c:signature>
	</rdf:Description>
...

and the Jena model looks like this:

...
http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
@c:submissionDate "2010-12-16 05:24:30.722";
http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
@c:docId http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809;
http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
@rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta;
http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
@c:language "English";
http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
@c:processingVer "CalaisJob01";
http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
@c:emVer "7.1.1103.5";
http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
@c:submitterCode "c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7";
http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
@c:contentType "TEXT/RAW";
http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
@c:langIdVer "DefaultLangId";
http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
@c:signature "digestalg-1|uUMwnVwAYwcoIRl2ozky6uBts7Y=|f6zt1E2yFp3X0TQ8KAJi1TjwAhRMGK0WjmJXDhRTw1rUs6oLbBwP3w==";
...

but what's missing is the "rdf:about" attribute in the rdf:Description
node. I need to be able to query this model to get the rdf:about value
along with many others, but it doesn't seem to be in the model at all.
What am I missing?

Rob

Re: Missing elements in the model

Posted by Dave Reynolds <da...@gmail.com>.
I assume you meant something like:

    PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
    PREFIX c:   <http://s.opencalais.com/1/pred/>
    SELECT ?company ?name ?ticker ?symbol WHERE { 
         ?company rdf:type <http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/er/Company> .
         ?company c:name    ?name   .
         ?company c:ticker  ?ticker .
         ?company c:symbol  ?symbol
   }

That finds all things of type c:Company, returning them along with their name, ticker and symbol. The ?company itself is a Resource identified by a URI (the URI in the "about" bit of the RDF/XML description).

Dave

On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 17:16 +0100, Robert Campbell wrote: 
> I was too excited and that SPARQL I posted doesn't work correctly. It
> returns what appears to be a join, which is not what I want (I'm new
> to all of this):
> 
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/4ee13d20-b44f-3bce-98bc-49a303e72db5,Microsoft
> Corporation,MSFT,MSFT.OQ),
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/4ee13d20-b44f-3bce-98bc-49a303e72db5,Dell
> Inc.,DELL,DELL.OQ),
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/a9739942-cae7-38d0-940e-6d84aed47ae6,Microsoft
> Corporation,MSFT,MSFT.OQ),
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/a9739942-cae7-38d0-940e-6d84aed47ae6,Dell
> Inc.,DELL,DELL.OQ),
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/17de1dc9-0806-32e0-ba05-fbf5996c3ec0,Microsoft
> Corporation,MSFT,MSFT.OQ),
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/17de1dc9-0806-32e0-ba05-fbf5996c3ec0,Dell
> Inc.,DELL,DELL.OQ))
> 
> Anyway, once I get it working I'll repost it to this thread for posterity.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Robert Campbell <rr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > That makes perfect sense and I really appreciate the detailed
> > response. I was able to change my SPARQL so that it successfully pulls
> > this rdf:about (subject) from the model, for example querying for
> > companies:
> >
> >       PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
> >       PREFIX c:   <http://s.opencalais.com/1/pred/>
> >       SELECT ?about ?name ?ticker ?symbol WHERE {
> >         ?about rdf:type <http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/er/Company> .
> >         ?company c:name    ?name   .
> >         ?company c:ticker  ?ticker .
> >         ?company c:symbol  ?symbol
> >       }
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Chris Dollin
> > <ch...@epimorphics.com> wrote:
> >> On Thursday, December 16, 2010 02:37:48 pm Robert Campbell wrote:
> >>> I'm parsing an XML/RDF model from OpenCalais which looks like this:
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>>       <rdf:Description c:contentType="text/raw" c:emVer="7.1.1103.5"
> >>> c:langIdVer="DefaultLangId" c:language="English"
> >>> c:processingVer="CalaisJob01" c:submissionDate="2009-12-10
> >>> 06:34:26.635" rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta">
> >>>               <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>
> >>>               <c:docId rdf:resource="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824"/>
> >>>               <c:submitterCode>c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7</c:submitterCode>
> >>>               <c:signature>digestalg-1|BA85RL4uWFjMjCfSa0k6iHqawts=|TTosv0VIPySK4HwUpxl76Yvh/ZwIjjCGwCRBAqjB+tDkZNcQUHmLUQ==</c:signature>
> >>>       </rdf:Description>
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> and the Jena model looks like this:
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>> @c:submissionDate "2010-12-16 05:24:30.722";
> >>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>> @c:docId http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809;
> >>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>> @rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta;
> >>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>> @c:language "English";
> >>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>> @c:processingVer "CalaisJob01";
> >>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>> @c:emVer "7.1.1103.5";
> >>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>> @c:submitterCode "c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7";
> >>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>> @c:contentType "TEXT/RAW";
> >>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>> @c:langIdVer "DefaultLangId";
> >>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>> @c:signature "digestalg-1|uUMwnVwAYwcoIRl2ozky6uBts7Y=|f6zt1E2yFp3X0TQ8KAJi1TjwAhRMGK0WjmJXDhRTw1rUs6oLbBwP3w==";
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> but what's missing is the "rdf:about" attribute in the rdf:Description
> >>> node. I need to be able to query this model to get the rdf:about value
> >>> along with many others, but it doesn't seem to be in the model at all.
> >>> What am I missing?
> >>
> >> rdf:about is just RDF/XML syntax; it doesn't exist in the RDF triple model.
> >> It says what the subject of the implied triples is. For example, in your
> >> RDF/XML we see:
> >>
> >>  rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta"
> >>
> >> with
> >>
> >>  <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>
> >>
> >> And in the model (which is being written out using the informal toString()
> >> notation, subject @predicate object) we see things like:
> >>
> >>  http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> >>  @rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta
> >>
> >> (looks much better with model.write(System.out, "TTL") for Turtle notation).
> >> (Yes, different URL because incomplete data in post)
> >>
> >> The nested <rdf:type ...> has turned into a predicate, and the rdf:about has
> >> made http://lotsofstuff/meta the subject in the statement with that predicate.
> >>
> >> The XML structure of RDF/XML is pretty much irrelevant once it has
> >> been read into a model.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> --
> >> "He remembered -- not one thing, not another thing, nor a logical /Whose Body?/
> >>  succession of things, but everything -- the whole thing, perfect,
> >>  complete in all its dimensions as it were and instantaneously; as if he
> >>  stood outside the world and saw it suspended in infinitely-dimensional space."
> >>
> >> Epimorphics Ltd, http://www.epimorphics.com
> >> Registered address: Court Lodge, 105 High Street, Portishead, Bristol BS20 6PT
> >> Epimorphics Ltd. is a limited company registered in England (number 7016688)
> >>
> >




Re: Missing elements in the model

Posted by Robert Campbell <rr...@gmail.com>.
Here is the correct query:

PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
       PREFIX c:   <http://s.opencalais.com/1/pred/>
       SELECT ?company ?name ?ticker ?symbol WHERE {
         ?company  rdf:type  <http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/er/Company> .
         ?company  c:name    ?name    .
         ?company  c:ticker  ?ticker  .
         ?company  c:symbol  ?symbol
       }


On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Robert Campbell <rr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was too excited and that SPARQL I posted doesn't work correctly. It
> returns what appears to be a join, which is not what I want (I'm new
> to all of this):
>
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/4ee13d20-b44f-3bce-98bc-49a303e72db5,Microsoft
> Corporation,MSFT,MSFT.OQ),
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/4ee13d20-b44f-3bce-98bc-49a303e72db5,Dell
> Inc.,DELL,DELL.OQ),
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/a9739942-cae7-38d0-940e-6d84aed47ae6,Microsoft
> Corporation,MSFT,MSFT.OQ),
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/a9739942-cae7-38d0-940e-6d84aed47ae6,Dell
> Inc.,DELL,DELL.OQ),
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/17de1dc9-0806-32e0-ba05-fbf5996c3ec0,Microsoft
> Corporation,MSFT,MSFT.OQ),
> (http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/17de1dc9-0806-32e0-ba05-fbf5996c3ec0,Dell
> Inc.,DELL,DELL.OQ))
>
> Anyway, once I get it working I'll repost it to this thread for posterity.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Robert Campbell <rr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> That makes perfect sense and I really appreciate the detailed
>> response. I was able to change my SPARQL so that it successfully pulls
>> this rdf:about (subject) from the model, for example querying for
>> companies:
>>
>>       PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
>>       PREFIX c:   <http://s.opencalais.com/1/pred/>
>>       SELECT ?about ?name ?ticker ?symbol WHERE {
>>         ?about rdf:type <http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/er/Company> .
>>         ?company c:name    ?name   .
>>         ?company c:ticker  ?ticker .
>>         ?company c:symbol  ?symbol
>>       }
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Chris Dollin
>> <ch...@epimorphics.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 16, 2010 02:37:48 pm Robert Campbell wrote:
>>>> I'm parsing an XML/RDF model from OpenCalais which looks like this:
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>       <rdf:Description c:contentType="text/raw" c:emVer="7.1.1103.5"
>>>> c:langIdVer="DefaultLangId" c:language="English"
>>>> c:processingVer="CalaisJob01" c:submissionDate="2009-12-10
>>>> 06:34:26.635" rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta">
>>>>               <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>
>>>>               <c:docId rdf:resource="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824"/>
>>>>               <c:submitterCode>c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7</c:submitterCode>
>>>>               <c:signature>digestalg-1|BA85RL4uWFjMjCfSa0k6iHqawts=|TTosv0VIPySK4HwUpxl76Yvh/ZwIjjCGwCRBAqjB+tDkZNcQUHmLUQ==</c:signature>
>>>>       </rdf:Description>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> and the Jena model looks like this:
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>> @c:submissionDate "2010-12-16 05:24:30.722";
>>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>> @c:docId http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809;
>>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>> @rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta;
>>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>> @c:language "English";
>>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>> @c:processingVer "CalaisJob01";
>>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>> @c:emVer "7.1.1103.5";
>>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>> @c:submitterCode "c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7";
>>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>> @c:contentType "TEXT/RAW";
>>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>> @c:langIdVer "DefaultLangId";
>>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>> @c:signature "digestalg-1|uUMwnVwAYwcoIRl2ozky6uBts7Y=|f6zt1E2yFp3X0TQ8KAJi1TjwAhRMGK0WjmJXDhRTw1rUs6oLbBwP3w==";
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> but what's missing is the "rdf:about" attribute in the rdf:Description
>>>> node. I need to be able to query this model to get the rdf:about value
>>>> along with many others, but it doesn't seem to be in the model at all.
>>>> What am I missing?
>>>
>>> rdf:about is just RDF/XML syntax; it doesn't exist in the RDF triple model.
>>> It says what the subject of the implied triples is. For example, in your
>>> RDF/XML we see:
>>>
>>>  rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta"
>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>  <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>
>>>
>>> And in the model (which is being written out using the informal toString()
>>> notation, subject @predicate object) we see things like:
>>>
>>>  http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>>  @rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta
>>>
>>> (looks much better with model.write(System.out, "TTL") for Turtle notation).
>>> (Yes, different URL because incomplete data in post)
>>>
>>> The nested <rdf:type ...> has turned into a predicate, and the rdf:about has
>>> made http://lotsofstuff/meta the subject in the statement with that predicate.
>>>
>>> The XML structure of RDF/XML is pretty much irrelevant once it has
>>> been read into a model.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> --
>>> "He remembered -- not one thing, not another thing, nor a logical /Whose Body?/
>>>  succession of things, but everything -- the whole thing, perfect,
>>>  complete in all its dimensions as it were and instantaneously; as if he
>>>  stood outside the world and saw it suspended in infinitely-dimensional space."
>>>
>>> Epimorphics Ltd, http://www.epimorphics.com
>>> Registered address: Court Lodge, 105 High Street, Portishead, Bristol BS20 6PT
>>> Epimorphics Ltd. is a limited company registered in England (number 7016688)
>>>
>>
>

Re: Missing elements in the model

Posted by Robert Campbell <rr...@gmail.com>.
I was too excited and that SPARQL I posted doesn't work correctly. It
returns what appears to be a join, which is not what I want (I'm new
to all of this):

(http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/4ee13d20-b44f-3bce-98bc-49a303e72db5,Microsoft
Corporation,MSFT,MSFT.OQ),
(http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/4ee13d20-b44f-3bce-98bc-49a303e72db5,Dell
Inc.,DELL,DELL.OQ),
(http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/a9739942-cae7-38d0-940e-6d84aed47ae6,Microsoft
Corporation,MSFT,MSFT.OQ),
(http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/a9739942-cae7-38d0-940e-6d84aed47ae6,Dell
Inc.,DELL,DELL.OQ),
(http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/17de1dc9-0806-32e0-ba05-fbf5996c3ec0,Microsoft
Corporation,MSFT,MSFT.OQ),
(http://d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/17de1dc9-0806-32e0-ba05-fbf5996c3ec0,Dell
Inc.,DELL,DELL.OQ))

Anyway, once I get it working I'll repost it to this thread for posterity.



On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Robert Campbell <rr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> That makes perfect sense and I really appreciate the detailed
> response. I was able to change my SPARQL so that it successfully pulls
> this rdf:about (subject) from the model, for example querying for
> companies:
>
>       PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
>       PREFIX c:   <http://s.opencalais.com/1/pred/>
>       SELECT ?about ?name ?ticker ?symbol WHERE {
>         ?about rdf:type <http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/er/Company> .
>         ?company c:name    ?name   .
>         ?company c:ticker  ?ticker .
>         ?company c:symbol  ?symbol
>       }
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Chris Dollin
> <ch...@epimorphics.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 16, 2010 02:37:48 pm Robert Campbell wrote:
>>> I'm parsing an XML/RDF model from OpenCalais which looks like this:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>       <rdf:Description c:contentType="text/raw" c:emVer="7.1.1103.5"
>>> c:langIdVer="DefaultLangId" c:language="English"
>>> c:processingVer="CalaisJob01" c:submissionDate="2009-12-10
>>> 06:34:26.635" rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta">
>>>               <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>
>>>               <c:docId rdf:resource="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824"/>
>>>               <c:submitterCode>c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7</c:submitterCode>
>>>               <c:signature>digestalg-1|BA85RL4uWFjMjCfSa0k6iHqawts=|TTosv0VIPySK4HwUpxl76Yvh/ZwIjjCGwCRBAqjB+tDkZNcQUHmLUQ==</c:signature>
>>>       </rdf:Description>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> and the Jena model looks like this:
>>>
>>> ...
>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>> @c:submissionDate "2010-12-16 05:24:30.722";
>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>> @c:docId http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809;
>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>> @rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta;
>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>> @c:language "English";
>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>> @c:processingVer "CalaisJob01";
>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>> @c:emVer "7.1.1103.5";
>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>> @c:submitterCode "c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7";
>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>> @c:contentType "TEXT/RAW";
>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>> @c:langIdVer "DefaultLangId";
>>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>> @c:signature "digestalg-1|uUMwnVwAYwcoIRl2ozky6uBts7Y=|f6zt1E2yFp3X0TQ8KAJi1TjwAhRMGK0WjmJXDhRTw1rUs6oLbBwP3w==";
>>> ...
>>>
>>> but what's missing is the "rdf:about" attribute in the rdf:Description
>>> node. I need to be able to query this model to get the rdf:about value
>>> along with many others, but it doesn't seem to be in the model at all.
>>> What am I missing?
>>
>> rdf:about is just RDF/XML syntax; it doesn't exist in the RDF triple model.
>> It says what the subject of the implied triples is. For example, in your
>> RDF/XML we see:
>>
>>  rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta"
>>
>> with
>>
>>  <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>
>>
>> And in the model (which is being written out using the informal toString()
>> notation, subject @predicate object) we see things like:
>>
>>  http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>>  @rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta
>>
>> (looks much better with model.write(System.out, "TTL") for Turtle notation).
>> (Yes, different URL because incomplete data in post)
>>
>> The nested <rdf:type ...> has turned into a predicate, and the rdf:about has
>> made http://lotsofstuff/meta the subject in the statement with that predicate.
>>
>> The XML structure of RDF/XML is pretty much irrelevant once it has
>> been read into a model.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --
>> "He remembered -- not one thing, not another thing, nor a logical /Whose Body?/
>>  succession of things, but everything -- the whole thing, perfect,
>>  complete in all its dimensions as it were and instantaneously; as if he
>>  stood outside the world and saw it suspended in infinitely-dimensional space."
>>
>> Epimorphics Ltd, http://www.epimorphics.com
>> Registered address: Court Lodge, 105 High Street, Portishead, Bristol BS20 6PT
>> Epimorphics Ltd. is a limited company registered in England (number 7016688)
>>
>

Re: Missing elements in the model

Posted by Robert Campbell <rr...@gmail.com>.
Hi Chris,

That makes perfect sense and I really appreciate the detailed
response. I was able to change my SPARQL so that it successfully pulls
this rdf:about (subject) from the model, for example querying for
companies:

       PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
       PREFIX c:   <http://s.opencalais.com/1/pred/>
       SELECT ?about ?name ?ticker ?symbol WHERE {
         ?about rdf:type <http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/er/Company> .
         ?company c:name    ?name   .
         ?company c:ticker  ?ticker .
         ?company c:symbol  ?symbol
       }

Rob


On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Chris Dollin
<ch...@epimorphics.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 16, 2010 02:37:48 pm Robert Campbell wrote:
>> I'm parsing an XML/RDF model from OpenCalais which looks like this:
>>
>> ...
>>       <rdf:Description c:contentType="text/raw" c:emVer="7.1.1103.5"
>> c:langIdVer="DefaultLangId" c:language="English"
>> c:processingVer="CalaisJob01" c:submissionDate="2009-12-10
>> 06:34:26.635" rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta">
>>               <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>
>>               <c:docId rdf:resource="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824"/>
>>               <c:submitterCode>c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7</c:submitterCode>
>>               <c:signature>digestalg-1|BA85RL4uWFjMjCfSa0k6iHqawts=|TTosv0VIPySK4HwUpxl76Yvh/ZwIjjCGwCRBAqjB+tDkZNcQUHmLUQ==</c:signature>
>>       </rdf:Description>
>> ...
>>
>> and the Jena model looks like this:
>>
>> ...
>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>> @c:submissionDate "2010-12-16 05:24:30.722";
>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>> @c:docId http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809;
>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>> @rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta;
>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>> @c:language "English";
>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>> @c:processingVer "CalaisJob01";
>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>> @c:emVer "7.1.1103.5";
>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>> @c:submitterCode "c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7";
>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>> @c:contentType "TEXT/RAW";
>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>> @c:langIdVer "DefaultLangId";
>> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>> @c:signature "digestalg-1|uUMwnVwAYwcoIRl2ozky6uBts7Y=|f6zt1E2yFp3X0TQ8KAJi1TjwAhRMGK0WjmJXDhRTw1rUs6oLbBwP3w==";
>> ...
>>
>> but what's missing is the "rdf:about" attribute in the rdf:Description
>> node. I need to be able to query this model to get the rdf:about value
>> along with many others, but it doesn't seem to be in the model at all.
>> What am I missing?
>
> rdf:about is just RDF/XML syntax; it doesn't exist in the RDF triple model.
> It says what the subject of the implied triples is. For example, in your
> RDF/XML we see:
>
>  rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta"
>
> with
>
>  <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>
>
> And in the model (which is being written out using the informal toString()
> notation, subject @predicate object) we see things like:
>
>  http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
>  @rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta
>
> (looks much better with model.write(System.out, "TTL") for Turtle notation).
> (Yes, different URL because incomplete data in post)
>
> The nested <rdf:type ...> has turned into a predicate, and the rdf:about has
> made http://lotsofstuff/meta the subject in the statement with that predicate.
>
> The XML structure of RDF/XML is pretty much irrelevant once it has
> been read into a model.
>
> Chris
>
> --
> "He remembered -- not one thing, not another thing, nor a logical /Whose Body?/
>  succession of things, but everything -- the whole thing, perfect,
>  complete in all its dimensions as it were and instantaneously; as if he
>  stood outside the world and saw it suspended in infinitely-dimensional space."
>
> Epimorphics Ltd, http://www.epimorphics.com
> Registered address: Court Lodge, 105 High Street, Portishead, Bristol BS20 6PT
> Epimorphics Ltd. is a limited company registered in England (number 7016688)
>

Re: Missing elements in the model

Posted by Chris Dollin <ch...@epimorphics.com>.
On Thursday, December 16, 2010 02:37:48 pm Robert Campbell wrote:
> I'm parsing an XML/RDF model from OpenCalais which looks like this:
> 
> ...
> 	<rdf:Description c:contentType="text/raw" c:emVer="7.1.1103.5"
> c:langIdVer="DefaultLangId" c:language="English"
> c:processingVer="CalaisJob01" c:submissionDate="2009-12-10
> 06:34:26.635" rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta">
> 		<rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>
> 		<c:docId rdf:resource="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824"/>
> 		<c:submitterCode>c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7</c:submitterCode>
> 		<c:signature>digestalg-1|BA85RL4uWFjMjCfSa0k6iHqawts=|TTosv0VIPySK4HwUpxl76Yvh/ZwIjjCGwCRBAqjB+tDkZNcQUHmLUQ==</c:signature>
> 	</rdf:Description>
> ...
> 
> and the Jena model looks like this:
> 
> ...
> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> @c:submissionDate "2010-12-16 05:24:30.722";
> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> @c:docId http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809;
> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> @rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta;
> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> @c:language "English";
> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> @c:processingVer "CalaisJob01";
> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> @c:emVer "7.1.1103.5";
> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> @c:submitterCode "c8b1bf20-11b5-9426-afb8-1af10ced91a7";
> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> @c:contentType "TEXT/RAW";
> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> @c:langIdVer "DefaultLangId";
> http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
> @c:signature "digestalg-1|uUMwnVwAYwcoIRl2ozky6uBts7Y=|f6zt1E2yFp3X0TQ8KAJi1TjwAhRMGK0WjmJXDhRTw1rUs6oLbBwP3w==";
> ...
> 
> but what's missing is the "rdf:about" attribute in the rdf:Description
> node. I need to be able to query this model to get the rdf:about value
> along with many others, but it doesn't seem to be in the model at all.
> What am I missing?

rdf:about is just RDF/XML syntax; it doesn't exist in the RDF triple model.
It says what the subject of the implied triples is. For example, in your
RDF/XML we see:

  rdf:about="http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/dd3d9746-bbd3-3bd8-abdd-ee102300c824/meta"

with

  <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta"/>

And in the model (which is being written out using the informal toString()
notation, subject @predicate object) we see things like:

  http://d.opencalais.com/dochash-1/c2156224-66ed-3538-89f2-7c4b4b197809/meta
  @rdf:type http://s.opencalais.com/1/type/sys/DocInfoMeta

(looks much better with model.write(System.out, "TTL") for Turtle notation).
(Yes, different URL because incomplete data in post)

The nested <rdf:type ...> has turned into a predicate, and the rdf:about has
made http://lotsofstuff/meta the subject in the statement with that predicate.

The XML structure of RDF/XML is pretty much irrelevant once it has
been read into a model.

Chris

-- 
"He remembered -- not one thing, not another thing, nor a logical /Whose Body?/
 succession of things, but everything -- the whole thing, perfect, 
 complete in all its dimensions as it were and instantaneously; as if he 
 stood outside the world and saw it suspended in infinitely-dimensional space."

Epimorphics Ltd, http://www.epimorphics.com
Registered address: Court Lodge, 105 High Street, Portishead, Bristol BS20 6PT
Epimorphics Ltd. is a limited company registered in England (number 7016688)