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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Marvin <no...@apache.org> on 2012/10/02 21:11:56 UTC

Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])


Dear podling,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
board report.

The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 17 October 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The report 
for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC 
requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to allow 
sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Oct 3rd).

Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and 
subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you 
should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.

Thanks,

The Apache Incubator PMC

Submitting your Report
----------------------

Your report should contain the following:

 * Your project name
 * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
   or necessarily of its field
 * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards 
   graduation.
 * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
 * How has the community developed since the last report
 * How has the project developed since the last report.
 
This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2012

Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
      created from a template.

Mentors
-------
Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the 
Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the 
project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.

Incubator PMC


Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org>.
Cool, thanks. That all looks good. I've signed off on it on the wiki before
reading this mail, but I'm happy with those changes being made.

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012, at 05:46 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> > Perhaps add:
> >
> > * Continuing to build the community and increase diversity
>
> I can add that - replace last legal blocker bullet point?
>
> > Not sure how to word the other item. That it is funded by Citrix
> > seems relevant to the board, yes. And that it is open to the community is
> > also relevant. We want to demonstrate that Citrix is helping out in
> > responsible ways.
>
> How about:
>
> The community is planning participation at LinuxCon EU, ApacheCon EU,
> and a number of
> other events through the remainder of 2012.
>
> Citrix is acting as primary sponsor of a CloudStack Collaboration
> Conference for November 30
> through December 2 in Las Vegas. The conference is open to the
> community, and programming
> for the event will be chosen by a committee that includes members of the
> CloudStack community
> outside Citrix.
>
> > I am unable to edit the wiki because I don't have the karma. I have asked
> > for it just now.
>
> It hasn't been signed-off-by yet so I think it's OK for me to edit it if
> we can agree on above (or if anyone else has suggestions).
>
> Mainly I wanted to be sure it was in by deadline. Next report I'll be
> sure to try to allow 72-hours. I'm not sure how we've done it
> previously, but I'll shoot for that any time I'm writing it up.
>
> Best,
>
> Joe
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>



-- 
NS

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012, at 05:46 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> Perhaps add:
> 
> * Continuing to build the community and increase diversity

I can add that - replace last legal blocker bullet point? 
 
> Not sure how to word the other item. That it is funded by Citrix
> seems relevant to the board, yes. And that it is open to the community is
> also relevant. We want to demonstrate that Citrix is helping out in
> responsible ways.

How about: 

The community is planning participation at LinuxCon EU, ApacheCon EU,
and a number of 
other events through the remainder of 2012. 

Citrix is acting as primary sponsor of a CloudStack Collaboration
Conference for November 30 
through December 2 in Las Vegas. The conference is open to the
community, and programming
for the event will be chosen by a committee that includes members of the
CloudStack community
outside Citrix.

> I am unable to edit the wiki because I don't have the karma. I have asked
> for it just now.

It hasn't been signed-off-by yet so I think it's OK for me to edit it if
we can agree on above (or if anyone else has suggestions).

Mainly I wanted to be sure it was in by deadline. Next report I'll be
sure to try to allow 72-hours. I'm not sure how we've done it
previously, but I'll shoot for that any time I'm writing it up. 

Best, 

Joe
-- 
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org>.
Perhaps add:

* Continuing to build the community and increase diversity

Not sure how to word the other item. That it is funded by Citrix
seems relevant to the board, yes. And that it is open to the community is
also relevant. We want to demonstrate that Citrix is helping out in
responsible ways.

I am unable to edit the wiki because I don't have the karma. I have asked
for it just now.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012, at 05:34 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> > I wouldn't say these are the most important issues to address as we move
> > towards graduation.
>
> So what would you say are the most important issues? I'm happy to take
> specific corrections.
>
> > Perhaps mention that this is being funded by Citrix, but participation is
> > open to the community?
>
> It's primarily funded by Citrix, but we're open to other sponsorships +
> such. Does that belong in the board report, though?
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>



-- 
NS

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012, at 05:34 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> I wouldn't say these are the most important issues to address as we move
> towards graduation.

So what would you say are the most important issues? I'm happy to take
specific corrections. 
 
> Perhaps mention that this is being funded by Citrix, but participation is
> open to the community?

It's primarily funded by Citrix, but we're open to other sponsorships +
such. Does that belong in the board report, though? 
-- 
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org>.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:

>
> A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
> graduation
>
>         1. Resolve last known possible legal blocker (export filing)
>         2. Shipping a release
>         3. Transfer trademark, etc. to Apache
>

I wouldn't say these are the most important issues to address as we move
towards graduation.

Graduation from the incubator is concerned with whether we have built a
healthy community around the software that understand what it means to be
an Apache project. I think we're making great progress with that.


>         The project has continued to improve its diversity, adding Chip
>         Childers and Wido
>         den Hollander to the PPMC and 3 new committers since the month
>         of August. We have also
>         taken on a new mentor.
>

Name the committers, and the mentor. ;)

        The community is currently planning a Collaboration Conference
>         for November 30 through
>         December 2 in Las Vegas, participation at LinuxCon EU and
>         ApacheCon EU and a number of
>         other events.
>

Perhaps mention that this is being funded by Citrix, but participation is
open to the community?


-- 
NS

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> Draft of board report - suggestions, corrections, and additions are
> welcome.
>
> If possible, please give feedback no later than tomorrow morning
> (October 3).
>
> CloudStack
>
> A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
> graduation
>
>         1. Resolve last known possible legal blocker (export filing)
>         2. Shipping a release
>         3. Transfer trademark, etc. to Apache
>
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
>
>         No issues at this time
>
> How has the community developed since the last report?
>
>         The project has continued to improve its diversity, adding Chip
>         Childers and Wido
>         den Hollander to the PPMC and 3 new committers since the month
>         of August. We have also
>         taken on a new mentor.
>
>         Contributors and committers have been active in promoting
>         CloudStack at events, such as
>         LinuxCon, Ohio LinuxFest, PuppetConf, a get-together at Schuberg
>         Philis, and a number of
>         other events.
>
>         The community is currently planning a Collaboration Conference
>         for November 30 through
>         December 2 in Las Vegas, participation at LinuxCon EU and
>         ApacheCon EU and a number of
>         other events.
>
> How has the project developed since the last report?
>
>         The pending 4.0 release has been branched. The project has made
>         a great deal of progress
>         towards the 4.0 release, handling a number of technical issues
>         (such as a move to Maven)
>         and     resolving almost all known legal issues that would pose
>         an obstacle to a release. The
>         sole remaining blocker is under discussion and should be
>         resolved shortly.
>
>         The Jira instance for CloudStack was stood up in early
>         September. License checks have been
>         automated to ensure that we remain compliant with Apache
>         guidelines going forward.
>
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

Thanks for picking this up Joe.

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012, at 04:17 PM, John Kinsella wrote:
> I'm on the PPMC as well now. :)  Otherwise looks good - thanks for
> putting it together!

Noted! Thanks, I will add that. (And congrats, if I haven't said so
already...) 

Best, 

Joe
-- 
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
I'm on the PPMC as well now. :)  Otherwise looks good - thanks for putting it together!

On Oct 2, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>
 wrote:

> Draft of board report - suggestions, corrections, and additions are
> welcome. 
> 
> If possible, please give feedback no later than tomorrow morning
> (October 3). 
> 
> CloudStack
> 
> A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
> graduation
> 
> 	1. Resolve last known possible legal blocker (export filing)
> 	2. Shipping a release
> 	3. Transfer trademark, etc. to Apache
> 
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
> 
> 	No issues at this time
> 
> How has the community developed since the last report?
> 
> 	The project has continued to improve its diversity, adding Chip
> 	Childers and Wido 
> 	den Hollander to the PPMC and 3 new committers since the month
> 	of August. We have also
> 	taken on a new mentor.  
> 
> 	Contributors and committers have been active in promoting
> 	CloudStack at events, such as 
> 	LinuxCon, Ohio LinuxFest, PuppetConf, a get-together at Schuberg
> 	Philis, and a number of 
> 	other events. 
> 
> 	The community is currently planning a Collaboration Conference
> 	for November 30 through
> 	December 2 in Las Vegas, participation at LinuxCon EU and
> 	ApacheCon EU and a number of 
> 	other events. 
> 
> How has the project developed since the last report?
> 
> 	The pending 4.0 release has been branched. The project has made
> 	a great deal of progress 
> 	towards the 4.0 release, handling a number of technical issues
> 	(such as a move to Maven)
> 	and     resolving almost all known legal issues that would pose
> 	an obstacle to a release. The
> 	sole remaining blocker is under discussion and should be
> 	resolved shortly.
> 
> 	The Jira instance for CloudStack was stood up in early
> 	September. License checks have been
> 	automated to ensure that we remain compliant with Apache
> 	guidelines going forward.
> 
> -- 
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> 

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Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org>.
Damn. Too late. Oh well. :)

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just FYI - I submitted this (with John's correction) this morning.
>
> Best,
>
> Joe
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012, at 04:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> > Draft of board report - suggestions, corrections, and additions are
> > welcome.
> >
> > If possible, please give feedback no later than tomorrow morning
> > (October 3).
> >
> > CloudStack
> >
> > A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > graduation
> >
> >       1. Resolve last known possible legal blocker (export filing)
> >       2. Shipping a release
> >       3. Transfer trademark, etc. to Apache
> >
> > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > aware of?
> >
> >       No issues at this time
> >
> > How has the community developed since the last report?
> >
> >       The project has continued to improve its diversity, adding Chip
> >       Childers and Wido
> >       den Hollander to the PPMC and 3 new committers since the month
> >       of August. We have also
> >       taken on a new mentor.
> >
> >       Contributors and committers have been active in promoting
> >       CloudStack at events, such as
> >       LinuxCon, Ohio LinuxFest, PuppetConf, a get-together at Schuberg
> >       Philis, and a number of
> >       other events.
> >
> >       The community is currently planning a Collaboration Conference
> >       for November 30 through
> >       December 2 in Las Vegas, participation at LinuxCon EU and
> >       ApacheCon EU and a number of
> >       other events.
> >
> > How has the project developed since the last report?
> >
> >       The pending 4.0 release has been branched. The project has made
> >       a great deal of progress
> >       towards the 4.0 release, handling a number of technical issues
> >       (such as a move to Maven)
> >       and     resolving almost all known legal issues that would pose
> >       an obstacle to a release. The
> >       sole remaining blocker is under discussion and should be
> >       resolved shortly.
> >
> >       The Jira instance for CloudStack was stood up in early
> >       September. License checks have been
> >       automated to ensure that we remain compliant with Apache
> >       guidelines going forward.
> >
> > --
> > Joe Brockmeier
> > jzb@zonker.net
> > Twitter: @jzb
> > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>



-- 
NS

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
Hi all, 

Just FYI - I submitted this (with John's correction) this morning. 

Best, 

Joe

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012, at 04:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> Draft of board report - suggestions, corrections, and additions are
> welcome. 
> 
> If possible, please give feedback no later than tomorrow morning
> (October 3). 
> 
> CloudStack
> 
> A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
> graduation
> 
> 	1. Resolve last known possible legal blocker (export filing)
> 	2. Shipping a release
> 	3. Transfer trademark, etc. to Apache
> 
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
> 
> 	No issues at this time
> 
> How has the community developed since the last report?
> 
> 	The project has continued to improve its diversity, adding Chip
> 	Childers and Wido 
> 	den Hollander to the PPMC and 3 new committers since the month
> 	of August. We have also
> 	taken on a new mentor.  
> 
> 	Contributors and committers have been active in promoting
> 	CloudStack at events, such as 
> 	LinuxCon, Ohio LinuxFest, PuppetConf, a get-together at Schuberg
> 	Philis, and a number of 
> 	other events. 
> 
> 	The community is currently planning a Collaboration Conference
> 	for November 30 through
> 	December 2 in Las Vegas, participation at LinuxCon EU and
> 	ApacheCon EU and a number of 
> 	other events. 
> 
> How has the project developed since the last report?
> 
> 	The pending 4.0 release has been branched. The project has made
> 	a great deal of progress 
> 	towards the 4.0 release, handling a number of technical issues
> 	(such as a move to Maven)
> 	and     resolving almost all known legal issues that would pose
> 	an obstacle to a release. The
> 	sole remaining blocker is under discussion and should be
> 	resolved shortly.
> 
>  	The Jira instance for CloudStack was stood up in early
>  	September. License checks have been
> 	automated to ensure that we remain compliant with Apache
> 	guidelines going forward.
> 
> -- 
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

-- 
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org>.
It's cutting it close at this hour! ;) And 24 hours is appalling. I hope I
can get that changed.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:42 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:

> It's a wiki - anyone can edit.
>
> + Marvin gave us ~24 hours from notice to have it done:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-cloudstack-dev/201210.mbox/%3C20121002191157.02FD5D766%40minotaur.apache.org%3E
>
> --David
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> > Can we have a bit more notice next time? 72 hours is standard in Apache
> > Land™.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Draft of board report - suggestions, corrections, and additions are
> >> welcome.
> >>
> >> If possible, please give feedback no later than tomorrow morning
> >> (October 3).
> >>
> >> CloudStack
> >>
> >> A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
> >> graduation
> >>
> >>         1. Resolve last known possible legal blocker (export filing)
> >>         2. Shipping a release
> >>         3. Transfer trademark, etc. to Apache
> >>
> >> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> >> aware of?
> >>
> >>         No issues at this time
> >>
> >> How has the community developed since the last report?
> >>
> >>         The project has continued to improve its diversity, adding Chip
> >>         Childers and Wido
> >>         den Hollander to the PPMC and 3 new committers since the month
> >>         of August. We have also
> >>         taken on a new mentor.
> >>
> >>         Contributors and committers have been active in promoting
> >>         CloudStack at events, such as
> >>         LinuxCon, Ohio LinuxFest, PuppetConf, a get-together at Schuberg
> >>         Philis, and a number of
> >>         other events.
> >>
> >>         The community is currently planning a Collaboration Conference
> >>         for November 30 through
> >>         December 2 in Las Vegas, participation at LinuxCon EU and
> >>         ApacheCon EU and a number of
> >>         other events.
> >>
> >> How has the project developed since the last report?
> >>
> >>         The pending 4.0 release has been branched. The project has made
> >>         a great deal of progress
> >>         towards the 4.0 release, handling a number of technical issues
> >>         (such as a move to Maven)
> >>         and     resolving almost all known legal issues that would pose
> >>         an obstacle to a release. The
> >>         sole remaining blocker is under discussion and should be
> >>         resolved shortly.
> >>
> >>         The Jira instance for CloudStack was stood up in early
> >>         September. License checks have been
> >>         automated to ensure that we remain compliant with Apache
> >>         guidelines going forward.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Joe Brockmeier
> >> jzb@zonker.net
> >> Twitter: @jzb
> >> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > NS
>



-- 
NS

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
It's a wiki - anyone can edit.

+ Marvin gave us ~24 hours from notice to have it done:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-cloudstack-dev/201210.mbox/%3C20121002191157.02FD5D766%40minotaur.apache.org%3E

--David

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> Can we have a bit more notice next time? 72 hours is standard in Apache
> Land™.
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>
>> Draft of board report - suggestions, corrections, and additions are
>> welcome.
>>
>> If possible, please give feedback no later than tomorrow morning
>> (October 3).
>>
>> CloudStack
>>
>> A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
>> graduation
>>
>>         1. Resolve last known possible legal blocker (export filing)
>>         2. Shipping a release
>>         3. Transfer trademark, etc. to Apache
>>
>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>> aware of?
>>
>>         No issues at this time
>>
>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>
>>         The project has continued to improve its diversity, adding Chip
>>         Childers and Wido
>>         den Hollander to the PPMC and 3 new committers since the month
>>         of August. We have also
>>         taken on a new mentor.
>>
>>         Contributors and committers have been active in promoting
>>         CloudStack at events, such as
>>         LinuxCon, Ohio LinuxFest, PuppetConf, a get-together at Schuberg
>>         Philis, and a number of
>>         other events.
>>
>>         The community is currently planning a Collaboration Conference
>>         for November 30 through
>>         December 2 in Las Vegas, participation at LinuxCon EU and
>>         ApacheCon EU and a number of
>>         other events.
>>
>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>
>>         The pending 4.0 release has been branched. The project has made
>>         a great deal of progress
>>         towards the 4.0 release, handling a number of technical issues
>>         (such as a move to Maven)
>>         and     resolving almost all known legal issues that would pose
>>         an obstacle to a release. The
>>         sole remaining blocker is under discussion and should be
>>         resolved shortly.
>>
>>         The Jira instance for CloudStack was stood up in early
>>         September. License checks have been
>>         automated to ensure that we remain compliant with Apache
>>         guidelines going forward.
>>
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> jzb@zonker.net
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> NS

Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org>.
Oh, Hmm. We weren't given any longer. This is stupid. I'm gonna take my
complaint to the Incubator. Thanks!

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org> wrote:

> Can we have a bit more notice next time? 72 hours is standard in Apache
> Land™.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>
>> Draft of board report - suggestions, corrections, and additions are
>> welcome.
>>
>> If possible, please give feedback no later than tomorrow morning
>> (October 3).
>>
>> CloudStack
>>
>> A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
>> graduation
>>
>>         1. Resolve last known possible legal blocker (export filing)
>>         2. Shipping a release
>>         3. Transfer trademark, etc. to Apache
>>
>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>> aware of?
>>
>>         No issues at this time
>>
>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>
>>         The project has continued to improve its diversity, adding Chip
>>         Childers and Wido
>>         den Hollander to the PPMC and 3 new committers since the month
>>         of August. We have also
>>         taken on a new mentor.
>>
>>         Contributors and committers have been active in promoting
>>         CloudStack at events, such as
>>         LinuxCon, Ohio LinuxFest, PuppetConf, a get-together at Schuberg
>>         Philis, and a number of
>>         other events.
>>
>>         The community is currently planning a Collaboration Conference
>>         for November 30 through
>>         December 2 in Las Vegas, participation at LinuxCon EU and
>>         ApacheCon EU and a number of
>>         other events.
>>
>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>
>>         The pending 4.0 release has been branched. The project has made
>>         a great deal of progress
>>         towards the 4.0 release, handling a number of technical issues
>>         (such as a move to Maven)
>>         and     resolving almost all known legal issues that would pose
>>         an obstacle to a release. The
>>         sole remaining blocker is under discussion and should be
>>         resolved shortly.
>>
>>         The Jira instance for CloudStack was stood up in early
>>         September. License checks have been
>>         automated to ensure that we remain compliant with Apache
>>         guidelines going forward.
>>
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> jzb@zonker.net
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> NS
>



-- 
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Re: Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org>.
Can we have a bit more notice next time? 72 hours is standard in Apache
Land™.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:

> Draft of board report - suggestions, corrections, and additions are
> welcome.
>
> If possible, please give feedback no later than tomorrow morning
> (October 3).
>
> CloudStack
>
> A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
> graduation
>
>         1. Resolve last known possible legal blocker (export filing)
>         2. Shipping a release
>         3. Transfer trademark, etc. to Apache
>
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
>
>         No issues at this time
>
> How has the community developed since the last report?
>
>         The project has continued to improve its diversity, adding Chip
>         Childers and Wido
>         den Hollander to the PPMC and 3 new committers since the month
>         of August. We have also
>         taken on a new mentor.
>
>         Contributors and committers have been active in promoting
>         CloudStack at events, such as
>         LinuxCon, Ohio LinuxFest, PuppetConf, a get-together at Schuberg
>         Philis, and a number of
>         other events.
>
>         The community is currently planning a Collaboration Conference
>         for November 30 through
>         December 2 in Las Vegas, participation at LinuxCon EU and
>         ApacheCon EU and a number of
>         other events.
>
> How has the project developed since the last report?
>
>         The pending 4.0 release has been branched. The project has made
>         a great deal of progress
>         towards the 4.0 release, handling a number of technical issues
>         (such as a move to Maven)
>         and     resolving almost all known legal issues that would pose
>         an obstacle to a release. The
>         sole remaining blocker is under discussion and should be
>         resolved shortly.
>
>         The Jira instance for CloudStack was stood up in early
>         September. License checks have been
>         automated to ensure that we remain compliant with Apache
>         guidelines going forward.
>
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>



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Input requested: (Was: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc]))

Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
Draft of board report - suggestions, corrections, and additions are
welcome. 

If possible, please give feedback no later than tomorrow morning
(October 3). 

CloudStack

A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
graduation

	1. Resolve last known possible legal blocker (export filing)
	2. Shipping a release
	3. Transfer trademark, etc. to Apache

Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?

	No issues at this time

How has the community developed since the last report?

	The project has continued to improve its diversity, adding Chip
	Childers and Wido 
	den Hollander to the PPMC and 3 new committers since the month
	of August. We have also
	taken on a new mentor.  

	Contributors and committers have been active in promoting
	CloudStack at events, such as 
	LinuxCon, Ohio LinuxFest, PuppetConf, a get-together at Schuberg
	Philis, and a number of 
	other events. 

	The community is currently planning a Collaboration Conference
	for November 30 through
	December 2 in Las Vegas, participation at LinuxCon EU and
	ApacheCon EU and a number of 
	other events. 

How has the project developed since the last report?

	The pending 4.0 release has been branched. The project has made
	a great deal of progress 
	towards the 4.0 release, handling a number of technical issues
	(such as a move to Maven)
	and     resolving almost all known legal issues that would pose
	an obstacle to a release. The
	sole remaining blocker is under discussion and should be
	resolved shortly.

 	The Jira instance for CloudStack was stood up in early
 	September. License checks have been
	automated to ensure that we remain compliant with Apache
	guidelines going forward.

-- 
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

Re: Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi Noah...

   This reminder is for collecting reports which is early enough as
the reports are discussed at board meeting 3rd Wednesday from each
month. Before reports were collected just one week before the board
meeting and some of them were too late to submit there reports and
hence the IPMC came up with the idea to collect it max. by the 1st
Wednesday of the month.

And I believe the reminders are even send more early than that I
suppose this one is just a second/another reminder

But thanks for being so keen to get things done on the right time :)

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> I had seen the earlier reminder, but had not made a calendar event for it.
> So when the 24 hour reminder came in, along with a quick draft that was
> posted before I checked my email, I felt a little blindsided. Would be nice
> to have the final call reminder come in 72 hours before the deadline, as is
> customary in Apache.
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:15 AM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Noah Slater wrote:
>> > Can we please adjust this system to send the notice out two days prior?
>> >
>> > As it stands, this notice gives the project a single day to prepare the
>> > board report. As it happens, I missed it, because I didn't check my mail
>> > yesterday. Which is annoying, because I had some comments on what was
>> > proposed.
>> >
>> > Can we adjust it so there is, at least, 72 hours notice?
>>
>> These are just reminders. The whole project should be aware
>> of the reporting schedule, now and when TLP.
>>
>> Anyway here is the schedule stuff:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/report-next-month.html
>> http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt
>>
>> These are generated from the main content/podlings.xml file.
>>
>> We should find a link in these archives about the
>> SVN location of the tool that sends the reminders.
>> Someone could adjust it. The code probably also needs
>> some changes, to pick up next month's set of projects,
>> because then firing before the new month.
>>
>> -David
>>
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Marvin <no...@apache.org>
>> > Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM
>> > Subject: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])
>> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear podling,
>> >
>> > This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
>> > Incubator PMC.
>> > It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your
>> > quarterly
>> > board report.
>> >
>> > The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 17 October 2012, 10:00:00 PST.
>> The
>> > report
>> > for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The
>> > Incubator PMC
>> > requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to
>> > allow
>> > sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Oct 3rd).
>> >
>> > Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
>> PMC,
>> > and
>> > subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest
>> you
>> > should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > The Apache Incubator PMC
>> >
>> > Submitting your Report
>> > ----------------------
>> >
>> > Your report should contain the following:
>> >
>> >  * Your project name
>> >  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the
>> > project
>> >    or necessarily of its field
>> >  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>> towards
>> >    graduation.
>> >  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
>> > aware of
>> >  * How has the community developed since the last report
>> >  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>> >
>> > This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>> >
>> >   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2012
>> >
>> > Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this
>> > page is
>> >       created from a template.
>> >
>> > Mentors
>> > -------
>> > Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
>> the
>> > Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
>> > project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator
>> > PMC.
>> >
>> > Incubator PMC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > NS
>>
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>
>
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the report reminders script

Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Noah Slater wrote:
> >
> > Can we not run the cronjob ever day and have it wake up, do some date math,
> > and then go back to sleep unless the moment is right. The moment being
> > right defined as 72 hours before the deadline.
> 
> We can, as soon as we have a patch. :-)
> 
> Hopefully someone who knows the script better (where it's located,
> run, etc.) will fill in details on how one would go about writing such
> a patch.

I do not know, but provided some hints earlier in this thread.
Did some detective work today:

The Incubator stuff was merged into the main 'marvin' reminder script
in November 2011 and February 2012.

See:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/board_reminders/

It gets the lists of which podling is due each month, via the report_due_[1-3].txt
files which are maintained by Clutch, using the data gathered from
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings.xml

See:
http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#data

-David

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Re: Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> Can we not run the cronjob ever day and have it wake up, do some date math,
> and then go back to sleep unless the moment is right. The moment being
> right defined as 72 hours before the deadline.

We can, as soon as we have a patch. :-)

Hopefully someone who knows the script better (where it's located,
run, etc.) will fill in details on how one would go about writing such
a patch.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Re: Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org>.
Can we not run the cronjob ever day and have it wake up, do some date math,
and then go back to sleep unless the moment is right. The moment being
right defined as 72 hours before the deadline.

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> > I had seen the earlier reminder, but had not made a calendar event for
> it.
> > So when the 24 hour reminder came in, along with a quick draft that was
> > posted before I checked my email, I felt a little blindsided. Would be
> nice
> > to have the final call reminder come in 72 hours before the deadline, as
> is
> > customary in Apache.
>
> IIRC the main problem in making this happen is that the current
> cronjob is unable to send reminders already for the following month.
> Thus the reminders to podlings end up being sent only at the beginning
> of the month, sometimes just moments before the deadline.
>
> So far I've tried to remedy this by sending earlier reminders to
> general@, but of course not everyone is following that list. It would
> be great if someone could update our tooling to better handle the
> reminders. Perhaps the incubator.apache.org site build could even
> automatically generate per-project ical files for this?
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Re: Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> I had seen the earlier reminder, but had not made a calendar event for it.
> So when the 24 hour reminder came in, along with a quick draft that was
> posted before I checked my email, I felt a little blindsided. Would be nice
> to have the final call reminder come in 72 hours before the deadline, as is
> customary in Apache.

IIRC the main problem in making this happen is that the current
cronjob is unable to send reminders already for the following month.
Thus the reminders to podlings end up being sent only at the beginning
of the month, sometimes just moments before the deadline.

So far I've tried to remedy this by sending earlier reminders to
general@, but of course not everyone is following that list. It would
be great if someone could update our tooling to better handle the
reminders. Perhaps the incubator.apache.org site build could even
automatically generate per-project ical files for this?

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Re: Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org>.
I had seen the earlier reminder, but had not made a calendar event for it.
So when the 24 hour reminder came in, along with a quick draft that was
posted before I checked my email, I felt a little blindsided. Would be nice
to have the final call reminder come in 72 hours before the deadline, as is
customary in Apache.

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:15 AM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:

> Noah Slater wrote:
> > Can we please adjust this system to send the notice out two days prior?
> >
> > As it stands, this notice gives the project a single day to prepare the
> > board report. As it happens, I missed it, because I didn't check my mail
> > yesterday. Which is annoying, because I had some comments on what was
> > proposed.
> >
> > Can we adjust it so there is, at least, 72 hours notice?
>
> These are just reminders. The whole project should be aware
> of the reporting schedule, now and when TLP.
>
> Anyway here is the schedule stuff:
> http://incubator.apache.org/report-next-month.html
> http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt
>
> These are generated from the main content/podlings.xml file.
>
> We should find a link in these archives about the
> SVN location of the tool that sends the reminders.
> Someone could adjust it. The code probably also needs
> some changes, to pick up next month's set of projects,
> because then firing before the new month.
>
> -David
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Marvin <no...@apache.org>
> > Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM
> > Subject: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear podling,
> >
> > This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> > Incubator PMC.
> > It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your
> > quarterly
> > board report.
> >
> > The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 17 October 2012, 10:00:00 PST.
> The
> > report
> > for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The
> > Incubator PMC
> > requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to
> > allow
> > sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Oct 3rd).
> >
> > Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator
> PMC,
> > and
> > subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest
> you
> > should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > The Apache Incubator PMC
> >
> > Submitting your Report
> > ----------------------
> >
> > Your report should contain the following:
> >
> >  * Your project name
> >  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the
> > project
> >    or necessarily of its field
> >  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> towards
> >    graduation.
> >  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
> > aware of
> >  * How has the community developed since the last report
> >  * How has the project developed since the last report.
> >
> > This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> >
> >   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2012
> >
> > Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this
> > page is
> >       created from a template.
> >
> > Mentors
> > -------
> > Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> the
> > Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
> > project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator
> > PMC.
> >
> > Incubator PMC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > NS
>
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Re: Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Noah Slater wrote:
> Can we please adjust this system to send the notice out two days prior?
> 
> As it stands, this notice gives the project a single day to prepare the
> board report. As it happens, I missed it, because I didn't check my mail
> yesterday. Which is annoying, because I had some comments on what was
> proposed.
> 
> Can we adjust it so there is, at least, 72 hours notice?

These are just reminders. The whole project should be aware
of the reporting schedule, now and when TLP.

Anyway here is the schedule stuff:
http://incubator.apache.org/report-next-month.html
http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt

These are generated from the main content/podlings.xml file.

We should find a link in these archives about the
SVN location of the tool that sends the reminders.
Someone could adjust it. The code probably also needs
some changes, to pick up next month's set of projects,
because then firing before the new month.

-David

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marvin <no...@apache.org>
> Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM
> Subject: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear podling,
> 
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> Incubator PMC.
> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your
> quarterly
> board report.
> 
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 17 October 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The
> report
> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The
> Incubator PMC
> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to
> allow
> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Oct 3rd).
> 
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC,
> and
> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> The Apache Incubator PMC
> 
> Submitting your Report
> ----------------------
> 
> Your report should contain the following:
> 
>  * Your project name
>  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the
> project
>    or necessarily of its field
>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
>    graduation.
>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
> aware of
>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
> 
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> 
>   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2012
> 
> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this
> page is
>       created from a template.
> 
> Mentors
> -------
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the
> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator
> PMC.
> 
> Incubator PMC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> NS

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Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@tumbolia.org>.
Can we please adjust this system to send the notice out two days prior?

As it stands, this notice gives the project a single day to prepare the
board report. As it happens, I missed it, because I didn't check my mail
yesterday. Which is annoying, because I had some comments on what was
proposed.

Can we adjust it so there is, at least, 72 hours notice?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Marvin <no...@apache.org>
Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:11 PM
Subject: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org




Dear podling,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
Incubator PMC.
It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your
quarterly
board report.

The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 17 October 2012, 10:00:00 PST. The
report
for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The
Incubator PMC
requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board meeting, to
allow
sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Oct 3rd).

Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC,
and
subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.

Thanks,

The Apache Incubator PMC

Submitting your Report
----------------------

Your report should contain the following:

 * Your project name
 * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the
project
   or necessarily of its field
 * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
   graduation.
 * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
aware of
 * How has the community developed since the last report
 * How has the project developed since the last report.

This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2012

Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this
page is
      created from a template.

Mentors
-------
Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the
Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator
PMC.

Incubator PMC




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