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Posted to dev@struts.apache.org by stu robertson <st...@yahoo.com> on 2003/11/25 02:53:12 UTC
Stable nightly build including ValidWhen change?
I'd like to start using the new validator
functionality which according to
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/dev_validator.html
is already in place, awaiting the next release.
Is there a particularly stable/least risky nightly
build I should go with? Are there any significant
changes I need to look out for?
Any informed input would be greatly appreciated.
Stu
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Re: Stable nightly build including ValidWhen change?
Posted by Robert Leland <rl...@apache.org>.
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
>Quoting Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>:
>
>
>
>>When we release 1.2.0, it will be the current nightly build,
>>
>>
>
>Except that's still based on non-released versions of the commons packages,
>right? Shouldn't a 1.2.x Struts release be based on the most recent releases
>of the commons JARs?
>
>
The commons-validator 1.1.0 was released it just wasn't a GA grade jar.
The version in CVS would be a GA Quality, which I could/would release.
My take is that we release 1.1.1 validator and use it for struts 1.2.0.
The concensis
on the struts-dev list was that Validator really needs a struts release
before it could
be voted of Beta/RC quality(i.e. announced on the struts-dev and
struts-user but no where else) list,
because there may be less than 10 people using it standalone. More may
be using the nightly version.
-Rob
Re: Stable nightly build including ValidWhen change?
Posted by "Craig R. McClanahan" <cr...@apache.org>.
Quoting Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>:
> When we release 1.2.0, it will be the current nightly build,
Except that's still based on non-released versions of the commons packages,
right? Shouldn't a 1.2.x Struts release be based on the most recent releases
of the commons JARs?
> which we
> consider stable. Since 1.1, the big items have been removing
> deprecations, updating the Validator, and wild-card ActionMapping paths.
>
If we wanted to do things the way that the Tomcat folks do (which seems
reasonable), we'd post it (with limited announcements, probably struts-dev and
struts-user only) as a "test" build, then wait a few days and hold a vote on
what quality ranking to specify (alpha, beta, stable, or withdrawn if it has a
fatal flaw). Only after that vote would it get posted onto the normal
distribution cycles and Apache mirrors.
Don't forget to copy pmc@jakarta.apache.org on all releases (test or
otherwise).
> -Ted.
Craig
>
> stu robertson wrote:
> > I'd like to start using the new validator
> > functionality which according to
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/dev_validator.html
> > is already in place, awaiting the next release.
> >
> > Is there a particularly stable/least risky nightly
> > build I should go with? Are there any significant
> > changes I need to look out for?
> >
> > Any informed input would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Stu
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Re: Stable nightly build including ValidWhen change?
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
When we release 1.2.0, it will be the current nightly build, which we
consider stable. Since 1.1, the big items have been removing
deprecations, updating the Validator, and wild-card ActionMapping paths.
-Ted.
stu robertson wrote:
> I'd like to start using the new validator
> functionality which according to
> http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/dev_validator.html
> is already in place, awaiting the next release.
>
> Is there a particularly stable/least risky nightly
> build I should go with? Are there any significant
> changes I need to look out for?
>
> Any informed input would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Stu
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ApacheCon logo can be removed
Posted by Steve Raeburn <sr...@apache.org>.
Ted,
As you're updating the web site, the ApacheCon logo can be removed now.
If you've already finished, I'll get it later on.
Steve
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
> As for 1.2.0 testing, I would suggest we do TC 3.3.1a and 4.1.28,
Ooops, 4.1.29
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
If the Validation 1.1.1 release is imminent, the best thing might be to
just let that be the Struts 1.2.0 trigger. If it happens a few days
later, then so be it. As it stands, TC3 is our 2.2/1.2 benchmark, and we
don't want to start cutting corners.
Of course, if anyone wanted to step up to bat and cut a Validator 1.1.1
while Rob was on holiday, I'm sure he wouldn't mind :) It's a commons
product, so any Jakarta Committer is eligible to join in the fun!
As for 1.2.0 testing, I would suggest we do TC 3.3.1a and 4.1.28, since
they are the reference implementations for the reigning specifications.
-Ted.
Robert Leland wrote:
> The Validator 1.1.0 has a bug that shows up a fatal bug in TC 3.X but
> not in 4.X....
> Agreed, go ahead and use c-v 1.1.0, though if no one objects I'll do a
> release of validator and
> if it comes out in time you have the option of using that instead.
>
> The only stumbling block now is that I need to change my public key to
> use stronger
> encryption so Martin doesn't get a 'warning' from my signed files.
>
>
> -Rob
>
>
>>
>> -T.
>>
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Robert Leland <rl...@apache.org>.
Ted Husted wrote:
> > T e d :
> >
> > If I understand the X.X.X release convention, a Vote doesn't have to
> > be held for a release to occur
> > but only to qualify it as Alpha/Beta/GA ? Is that correct?
> >
> > If that is so I could just stay up tonight and do a release and we
> > would vote on the quality
> > at a later date, once it has been a bit.
> >
> > -Rob
>
> Yes, if we were able to include a validator 1.1.1 and it later went to
> GA, then our release could go to GA too.
>
> Though, I wouldn't be optimistic about 1.2.0 going GA, but anything's
> possible :)
>
> We could also just do a 1.2.1 once the Validator 1.1.1 was out too. My
> personal goal is to just "tap the keg" on 1.2.x, so we can get in the
> habit of releasing more often.
The Validator 1.1.0 has a bug that shows up a fatal bug in TC 3.X but
not in 4.X....
Agreed, go ahead and use c-v 1.1.0, though if no one objects I'll do a
release of validator and
if it comes out in time you have the option of using that instead.
The only stumbling block now is that I need to change my public key to
use stronger
encryption so Martin doesn't get a 'warning' from my signed files.
-Rob
>
> -T.
>
> Robert Leland wrote:
>
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
> T e d :
>
> If I understand the X.X.X release convention, a Vote doesn't have to
> be held for a release to occur
> but only to qualify it as Alpha/Beta/GA ? Is that correct?
>
> If that is so I could just stay up tonight and do a release and we
> would vote on the quality
> at a later date, once it has been a bit.
>
> -Rob
Yes, if we were able to include a validator 1.1.1 and it later went to
GA, then our release could go to GA too.
Though, I wouldn't be optimistic about 1.2.0 going GA, but anything's
possible :)
We could also just do a 1.2.1 once the Validator 1.1.1 was out too. My
personal goal is to just "tap the keg" on 1.2.x, so we can get in the
habit of releasing more often.
-T.
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Robert Leland <rl...@apache.org>.
Ted Husted wrote:
> AFAIK, it's a decent milestone already. :)
>
> I believe to get it ready for "prime time" as a General Availability
> release will mainly be a matter of updating the documentation. But,
> the best way to generate some interest in doing that may be to publish
> a milestone release.
>
> Also, to make the GA grade, all dependent libraries would also have to
> be GA grade. From what Rob says, we want to use the latest Validator
> build now. So, a Commons-Validator 1.0.3 release would help in that
> regard.
The current Validator 1.1.0, and a 1.1.1 release could certainly be done.
I am leaving home at 4 am tomorrow for the weekend, and hesitate over
doing a last minute release....
T e d :
If I understand the X.X.X release convention, a Vote doesn't have to be
held for a release to occur
but only to qualify it as Alpha/Beta/GA ? Is that correct?
If that is so I could just stay up tonight and do a release and we would
vote on the quality
at a later date, once it has been a bit.
-Rob
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
AFAIK, it's a decent milestone already. :)
I believe to get it ready for "prime time" as a General Availability
release will mainly be a matter of updating the documentation. But, the
best way to generate some interest in doing that may be to publish a
milestone release.
Also, to make the GA grade, all dependent libraries would also have to
be GA grade. From what Rob says, we want to use the latest Validator
build now. So, a Commons-Validator 1.0.3 release would help in that regard.
-Ted.
Tim Chen wrote:
> What would need to be done to get it to "milestone"
> -Tim
>
> Ted Husted wrote:
>
>> With the long weekend coming up, I was thinking of rolling up my
>> sleeves and doing whatever needs to be done to cut 1.2.0.
>>
>> Anyone one aware of any serious showstoppers?
>>
>> While under the current scheme, any release has the potential to make
>> the General Availability grade, I would anticipate that 1.2.0 will end
>> up being a simple "milestone" release, and we'll have to cut a few
>> more before we get to GA. But, I'd like to start the ball rolling.
>>
>> -Ted.
>>
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Tim Chen <tc...@tampabay.rr.com>.
What would need to be done to get it to "milestone"
-Tim
Ted Husted wrote:
> With the long weekend coming up, I was thinking of rolling up my
> sleeves and doing whatever needs to be done to cut 1.2.0.
>
> Anyone one aware of any serious showstoppers?
>
> While under the current scheme, any release has the potential to make
> the General Availability grade, I would anticipate that 1.2.0 will end
> up being a simple "milestone" release, and we'll have to cut a few
> more before we get to GA. But, I'd like to start the ball rolling.
>
> -Ted.
>
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ted Husted wrote:
> Do you want to tag-team on the release again?
Sure.
>
> As it happens, I'm out of town again next Tuesday-Friday, and it would
> be good if there were another RM ready to step in for any mopping up
> mopped up.
I'll get my mop and bucket ready. ;-)
--
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>
> -T.
>
> Martin Cooper wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ted Husted wrote:
> >
> >
> >>With the long weekend coming up, I was thinking of rolling up my sleeves
> >>and doing whatever needs to be done to cut 1.2.0.
> >
> >
> > Funny you should bring that up. I'm planning on spending a good chunk of
> > this upcoming break in Apache land myself.
> >
> >
> >>Anyone one aware of any serious showstoppers?
> >
> >
> > No, but then I have a lot of catching up to do.
> >
> >
> >>While under the current scheme, any release has the potential to make
> >>the General Availability grade, I would anticipate that 1.2.0 will end
> >>up being a simple "milestone" release, and we'll have to cut a few more
> >>before we get to GA. But, I'd like to start the ball rolling.
> >
> >
> > +1 to all of that.
> >
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Ted.
> >>
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Do you want to tag-team on the release again?
As it happens, I'm out of town again next Tuesday-Friday, and it would
be good if there were another RM ready to step in for any mopping up
mopped up.
-T.
Martin Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ted Husted wrote:
>
>
>>With the long weekend coming up, I was thinking of rolling up my sleeves
>>and doing whatever needs to be done to cut 1.2.0.
>
>
> Funny you should bring that up. I'm planning on spending a good chunk of
> this upcoming break in Apache land myself.
>
>
>>Anyone one aware of any serious showstoppers?
>
>
> No, but then I have a lot of catching up to do.
>
>
>>While under the current scheme, any release has the potential to make
>>the General Availability grade, I would anticipate that 1.2.0 will end
>>up being a simple "milestone" release, and we'll have to cut a few more
>>before we get to GA. But, I'd like to start the ball rolling.
>
>
> +1 to all of that.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
>
>>-Ted.
>>
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ted Husted wrote:
> With the long weekend coming up, I was thinking of rolling up my sleeves
> and doing whatever needs to be done to cut 1.2.0.
Funny you should bring that up. I'm planning on spending a good chunk of
this upcoming break in Apache land myself.
>
> Anyone one aware of any serious showstoppers?
No, but then I have a lot of catching up to do.
>
> While under the current scheme, any release has the potential to make
> the General Availability grade, I would anticipate that 1.2.0 will end
> up being a simple "milestone" release, and we'll have to cut a few more
> before we get to GA. But, I'd like to start the ball rolling.
+1 to all of that.
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>
> -Ted.
>
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RE: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Norm Deane <no...@vanderbilt.edu>.
Would it be possible to get my patch for 12342 applied in the 1.2.0 release?
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12342
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Graham [mailto:grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:45 AM
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> Subject: Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
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>
>
> --- Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > With the long weekend coming up, I was thinking of rolling up my
> > sleeves
> >
> > and doing whatever needs to be done to cut 1.2.0.
> >
> > Anyone one aware of any serious showstoppers?
>
> Nope, the commits have been relatively infrequent and I
> haven't seen anything serious. Rob has been fixing up
> Validator issues so it will be great to get these released in 1.2.0.
>
> David
>
> >
> > While under the current scheme, any release has the
> potential to make
> > the General Availability grade, I would anticipate that
> 1.2.0 will end
> > up being a simple "milestone" release, and we'll have to
> cut a few more
> > before we get to GA. But, I'd like to start the ball rolling.
> >
> > -Ted.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: 1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by David Graham <gr...@yahoo.com>.
--- Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> With the long weekend coming up, I was thinking of rolling up my sleeves
>
> and doing whatever needs to be done to cut 1.2.0.
>
> Anyone one aware of any serious showstoppers?
Nope, the commits have been relatively infrequent and I haven't seen
anything serious. Rob has been fixing up Validator issues so it will be
great to get these released in 1.2.0.
David
>
> While under the current scheme, any release has the potential to make
> the General Availability grade, I would anticipate that 1.2.0 will end
> up being a simple "milestone" release, and we'll have to cut a few more
> before we get to GA. But, I'd like to start the ball rolling.
>
> -Ted.
>
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1.2.0 Resurrected
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
With the long weekend coming up, I was thinking of rolling up my sleeves
and doing whatever needs to be done to cut 1.2.0.
Anyone one aware of any serious showstoppers?
While under the current scheme, any release has the potential to make
the General Availability grade, I would anticipate that 1.2.0 will end
up being a simple "milestone" release, and we'll have to cut a few more
before we get to GA. But, I'd like to start the ball rolling.
-Ted.
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Re: [Nightly Build] Validator
Posted by "Craig R. McClanahan" <cr...@apache.org>.
Quoting Robert Leland <rl...@apache.org>:
> Craig:
> The Nightly build of Struts(Nov 24th) has a version of Validator from
> Nov 8th,
> could you update the of commons-validator build to pickup the latest
> changes?
> These changes deal with not validating disabled fields.
>
> -Rob
>
Tonight's nightly should pick up today's builds of the commons packages.
Craig
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[Nightly Build] Validator
Posted by Robert Leland <rl...@apache.org>.
Craig:
The Nightly build of Struts(Nov 24th) has a version of Validator from
Nov 8th,
could you update the of commons-validator build to pickup the latest
changes?
These changes deal with not validating disabled fields.
-Rob
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