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[jira] Created: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded
Jetty or Tomcat
JSPWiki executable with embedded Jetty or Tomcat
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Key: JSPWIKI-179
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179
Project: JSPWiki
Issue Type: Wish
Reporter: Jason Yip
Priority: Minor
Just thinking that it would be nice to have a JSPWiki download that works on its own without needing to download a servlet engine separately.
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Re: [jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded Jetty or Tomcat
Posted by Janne Jalkanen <Ja...@ecyrd.com>.
On Jun 11, 2008, at 08:25 , Jim White wrote:
> Another one that has embedded Jetty (based on Maven and OSGi to
> boot) is Sling.
>
> Sling is actually the architecture that I wanted when I started
> using JSPWiki. It is a Wiki served by a general document
> repository supporting WebDAV access and a Java module system. I
> will probably be switching to it before too long.
Yes, I took a look at it, but Sling is not exactly a wiki. It's
pretty much a platform over JCR; a collection of rendering engines
over JCR content, if you will.
> A slightly interesting thought (although not useful for me) is
> whether JSPWiki JSPs and plugins could be made to work in Sling.
It is not impossible (you would turn the JSPWiki WikiEngine into a
plugin for Sling, just like any other embedder), but I'm not sure
whether that's really useful. Or at least I can't really think of a
strong usecase :-)
We are, though, moving to the same kind of direction in 3.0, but
we'll be far more wiki-specific. There might be some interesting
techniques or bits of code we could lift from Sling, tho'...
/Janne
Re: [jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded
Jetty or Tomcat
Posted by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>.
Jim White wrote:
> Another one that has embedded Jetty (based on Maven and OSGi to boot) is
> Sling.
>
> Sling is actually the architecture that I wanted when I started using
> JSPWiki. It is a Wiki served by a general document repository
> supporting WebDAV access and a Java module system. I will probably be
> switching to it before too long.
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/sling/site/index.html
>
> A slightly interesting thought (although not useful for me) is whether
> JSPWiki JSPs and plugins could be made to work in Sling.
>
> Jim
Thanks Jim,
Janne has been working on a content repository backend for 3.0 that
is already in SVN. I'd be interested to know how difficult it would
be to use Sling as an alternative to the planned 3.0 backend, which
would take the load off of us (or Janne particularly) in doing that
work. If Sling looks solid I might be interested in working with it
since I'll be needing a JSR-170 style backend for JSPWiki sometime
in the next year or so. It'd be nice not to have to reinvent too
many wheels.
Thanks for the reference -- seems there's so much going on at Apache
lately it's hard to keep track. I just found out about Tika today.
Murray
...........................................................................
Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === = =
http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = = ===
SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = = =
Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
-- The Blue Cliff Record
Re: [jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded
Jetty or Tomcat
Posted by Jim White <ji...@pagesmiths.com>.
Another one that has embedded Jetty (based on Maven and OSGi to boot) is
Sling.
Sling is actually the architecture that I wanted when I started using
JSPWiki. It is a Wiki served by a general document repository
supporting WebDAV access and a Java module system. I will probably be
switching to it before too long.
http://incubator.apache.org/sling/site/index.html
A slightly interesting thought (although not useful for me) is whether
JSPWiki JSPs and plugins could be made to work in Sling.
Jim
Murray Altheim wrote:
> I was just investigating Solr and found that its example files run
> on an embedded Jetty instance. Sounds like a possible avenue for
> solving this one. Info at:
>
> http://lucene.apache.org/solr/tutorial.html
>
> Obviously already under an Apache license too...
>
> Murray
Re: [jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded
Jetty or Tomcat
Posted by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>.
I was just investigating Solr and found that its example files run
on an embedded Jetty instance. Sounds like a possible avenue for
solving this one. Info at:
http://lucene.apache.org/solr/tutorial.html
Obviously already under an Apache license too...
Murray
...........................................................................
Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === = =
http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = = ===
SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = = =
Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
-- The Blue Cliff Record
Re: [jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded
Jetty or Tomcat
Posted by Andrew Jaquith <an...@mac.com>.
As it happens, we already bundle part of Jetty with Selenium.
I have been fooling around with creating an easy way to use Jetty for
web unit testing for a while; however, I've been bedeviled by some
runtime bugs that I haven't had time to fix yet...
On Jun 8, 2008, at 4:30 PM, Janne Jalkanen wrote:
>
> Yes, bundling Jetty or something which could just be installed e..g
> as a DMG or something else...
>
> /Janne
>
> On 8 Jun 2008, at 22:32, Murray Altheim wrote:
>
>> Is this necessary? I've been downloading, building a war, and
>> dropping
>> the result into a webapps directory run under Jetty for years now and
>> I've not needed to do anything special except modify
>> jspwiki.properties.
>>
>> What extra work is considered here? Actually bundling Jetty as a
>> executable?
>>
>> Murray
>>
>> Janne Jalkanen (JIRA) wrote:
>>> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12603393
>>> #action_12603393 ] Janne Jalkanen commented on JSPWIKI-179:
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> I agree. Anybody willing to start making a build?
>>>> JSPWiki executable with embedded Jetty or Tomcat
>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Key: JSPWIKI-179
>>>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179
>>>> Project: JSPWiki
>>>> Issue Type: Wish
>>>> Reporter: Jason Yip
>>>> Priority: Minor
>>>>
>>>> Just thinking that it would be nice to have a JSPWiki download
>>>> that works on its own without needing to download a servlet
>>>> engine separately.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ...........................................................................
>> Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com>
>> === = =
>> http://www.altheim.com/murray/
>> = = ===
>> SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk
>> = = = =
>>
>> Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
>> Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
>> The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
>> Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
>> -- The Blue Cliff Record
>
Re: [jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded Jetty or Tomcat
Posted by Janne Jalkanen <Ja...@ecyrd.com>.
Yes, bundling Jetty or something which could just be installed e..g
as a DMG or something else...
/Janne
On 8 Jun 2008, at 22:32, Murray Altheim wrote:
> Is this necessary? I've been downloading, building a war, and dropping
> the result into a webapps directory run under Jetty for years now and
> I've not needed to do anything special except modify
> jspwiki.properties.
>
> What extra work is considered here? Actually bundling Jetty as a
> executable?
>
> Murray
>
> Janne Jalkanen (JIRA) wrote:
>> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179?
>> page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
>> tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12603393#action_12603393 ] Janne
>> Jalkanen commented on JSPWIKI-179:
>> ----------------------------------------
>> I agree. Anybody willing to start making a build?
>>> JSPWiki executable with embedded Jetty or Tomcat
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Key: JSPWIKI-179
>>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/
>>> JSPWIKI-179
>>> Project: JSPWiki
>>> Issue Type: Wish
>>> Reporter: Jason Yip
>>> Priority: Minor
>>>
>>> Just thinking that it would be nice to have a JSPWiki download
>>> that works on its own without needing to download a servlet
>>> engine separately.
>
>
> --
>
> ......................................................................
> .....
> Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com>
> === = =
> http://www.altheim.com/murray/
> = = ===
> SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk
> = = = =
>
> Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
> Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
> The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
> Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
> -- The Blue Cliff Record
Re: [jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded
Jetty or Tomcat
Posted by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>.
Is this necessary? I've been downloading, building a war, and dropping
the result into a webapps directory run under Jetty for years now and
I've not needed to do anything special except modify jspwiki.properties.
What extra work is considered here? Actually bundling Jetty as a
executable?
Murray
Janne Jalkanen (JIRA) wrote:
> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12603393#action_12603393 ]
>
> Janne Jalkanen commented on JSPWIKI-179:
> ----------------------------------------
>
> I agree. Anybody willing to start making a build?
>
>> JSPWiki executable with embedded Jetty or Tomcat
>> ------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Key: JSPWIKI-179
>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179
>> Project: JSPWiki
>> Issue Type: Wish
>> Reporter: Jason Yip
>> Priority: Minor
>>
>> Just thinking that it would be nice to have a JSPWiki download that works on its own without needing to download a servlet engine separately.
>
--
...........................................................................
Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === = =
http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = = ===
SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = = =
Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
-- The Blue Cliff Record
[jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded
Jetty or Tomcat
Posted by "Janne Jalkanen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12603393#action_12603393 ]
Janne Jalkanen commented on JSPWIKI-179:
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I agree. Anybody willing to start making a build?
> JSPWiki executable with embedded Jetty or Tomcat
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: JSPWIKI-179
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179
> Project: JSPWiki
> Issue Type: Wish
> Reporter: Jason Yip
> Priority: Minor
>
> Just thinking that it would be nice to have a JSPWiki download that works on its own without needing to download a servlet engine separately.
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[jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded
Jetty or Tomcat
Posted by "Janne Jalkanen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12603437#action_12603437 ]
Janne Jalkanen commented on JSPWIKI-179:
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That would certainly be cool! Would give a nice additional download item for people...
> JSPWiki executable with embedded Jetty or Tomcat
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: JSPWIKI-179
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179
> Project: JSPWiki
> Issue Type: Wish
> Reporter: Jason Yip
> Priority: Minor
>
> Just thinking that it would be nice to have a JSPWiki download that works on its own without needing to download a servlet engine separately.
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[jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-179) JSPWiki executable with embedded
Jetty or Tomcat
Posted by "James P. White (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12603434#action_12603434 ]
James P. White commented on JSPWIKI-179:
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This is one of things I've been planning to do for a long while as part of a better packaging system for many Java applications, not just JSPWiki. One form is AntAnywhere which will take any Ant script and package it as a JNLP (JavaWebStart). Using Apache Ivy Ant tasks is supported.
http://www.ifcx.org/wiki/AntAnywhere.html
Since I'm still starting Tomcat on the command line on my Mac (and just got through doing that again and updating my JSPWiki backups), there's a decent change I may do something on this fairly soon.
> JSPWiki executable with embedded Jetty or Tomcat
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: JSPWIKI-179
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-179
> Project: JSPWiki
> Issue Type: Wish
> Reporter: Jason Yip
> Priority: Minor
>
> Just thinking that it would be nice to have a JSPWiki download that works on its own without needing to download a servlet engine separately.
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