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SRU compatible Search inside the lenya Lucene

Dear All, 
   
  I want to implement SRU compatible search in lenya. Can you please help me to provide some directions , how to accomplish this task.
   
  Regards
   
  Waheed Iqbal

       
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Re: SRU compatible Search inside the lenya Lucene

Posted by so...@apache.org.
On 9/29/07, waheed iqbal <wa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am using lenya 1.2.5 and i just aim to create a middle ware that provides
> SRU compliant search for lenya.
> Can you please point me to the source code for "Default search
> functionality"?

http://solprovider.com/lenya/search
contains the source code used for search.  Bug fixes have been added
there.  Small differences may exist between that page, Lenya 1.2.4,
and Lenya 1.2.5, but all the files are explained on my page.

> I have installed lenya but lenya don't index automatically for newly added
> contents i always run index-publication.bat to do this.Is it any way to
> configure indexing automatically so default search work normal for newly
> added contents?

The batch/shell file was good enough for my customer so I did not
finish integrating search updating with document maintenance.  I
expect to migrate my customers to Lenya 1.3 later this year.  Lenya
1.3 has a completely new document resource maintenance architecture so
I have little interest in 1.2's architecture.

> Which version of lenya you recommend me to work ?
> Regards
> Waheed Iqbal

Lenya 1.2.5 is the current stable production version.  You should use
it if you are using Lenya in production.  You should change it if you
urgently need new or different functionality.

Lenya 1.3 and 2.0 are in development.
- Lenya 1.3 focuses on improving the architecture and simplifying
1.2's development system.  Lenay 1.3 is fully compatible with and has
easy migration of 1.2 publications.  Development has been less than 5
man-months of development.  Another two months should complete all
functionality.
- Lenya 2.0 focuses on adding easier integration of Java.  The project
has released working code.

Contributing depends on your goals.  Do you want to help with a
project that will not be released next month?  Contribute to 1.3 if
you dislike record-locking.  Contribute to 2.0 if you like adding Java
classes when creating new functionality.

solprovider

> solprovider@apache.org wrote:
>  SRU and CQL are Library of Congress' attempts to standardize
> querystring parameters for GET requests to search engines. The effort
> started around 2002 and first published in 2004. (The years may be
> wrong as I did not pay attention when the project first started. Who
> notices what the LOC does with the Internet?.) The attempt is long
> overdue, but we have used AltaVista, Ask.com, DogPile, Excite, Google,
> Yahoo, and many other Web SEs without noticing a lack of standards.
>
> Lenya 1.2 Documentation: Current production release is 1.2.5.
> http://lenya.apache.org/docs/1_2_x/index.html
> http://solprovider.com/lenya
> http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/
>
> All functional additions required usecases requested in the
> querystring or modifying the core functions.
> http://solprovider.com/lenya/search explains how Lenya
> 1.2.4+ handles
> search. This could be modified to be almost SRU compliant.
>
> Lenya 1.3 is still in development. Expect release in December.
> Search function will be SRU compliant. (The search module needs to be
> rewritten and following the standards would be good and as easy as not
> following them. And maybe work with the Lucene project about using
> fully SRU compliant defaults.)
>
> Lenya 2.0 is still in development. Release was expected in 2006.
> Search has been implemented, but SRU/CQL standards were not followed.
>
> Which version is your concern?
> solprovider
>
> On 9/28/07, waheed iqbal wrote:
> > SRU is a protocol provides standards for different operations such as
> search
> > Scan ,retrieve operation and Explain.
> > 1) Where Lucene Indexed all contents inside the lenya.
> > 2) How can i create a web page inside the lenya , i need to add some html
> > pages and one servlet inside the lenya.
> > Lenya is open source but im not able to find its developer guide.
> > Jürgen Ragaller wrote:
> > Am Sep 28, 2007 um 9:41 schrieb Thorsten Scherler:
> > > On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 00:29 -0700, waheed iqbal wrote:
> > >> I want to implement SRU compatible search in lenya. Can you please
> > >> help me to provide some directions , how to accomplish this task.
> > > What is a SRU compatible search?
> > http://www.loc.gov/standards/sru/
> > Jürgen

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Re: SRU compatible Search inside the lenya Lucene

Posted by waheed iqbal <wa...@yahoo.com>.
Thank you very much for your replay.

I am using lenya 1.2.5 and i just aim to create a middle ware that provides SRU compliant search for lenya.

I have installed lenya but lenya don't index automatically for newly added contents i always run index-publication.bat to do this.Is it any way to configure indexing automatically so default search work normal for newly added contents?

Can you please point me to the source code for "Default search functionality"?

Which version of lenya you recommend me to work ?

Regards

Waheed Iqbal

solprovider@apache.org wrote: SRU and CQL are Library of Congress' attempts to standardize
querystring parameters for GET requests to search engines.  The effort
started around 2002 and first published in 2004.  (The years may be
wrong as I did not pay attention when the project first started.  Who
notices what the LOC does with the Internet?.) The attempt is long
overdue, but we have used AltaVista, Ask.com, DogPile, Excite, Google,
Yahoo, and many other Web SEs without noticing a lack of standards.

Lenya 1.2 Documentation:  Current production release is 1.2.5.
http://lenya.apache.org/docs/1_2_x/index.html
http://solprovider.com/lenya
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/

All functional additions required usecases requested in the
querystring or modifying the core functions.
http://solprovider.com/lenya/search explains how Lenya 1.2.4+ handles
search.  This could be modified to be almost SRU compliant.

Lenya 1.3 is still in development.  Expect release in December.
Search function will be SRU compliant.  (The search module needs to be
rewritten and following the standards would be good and as easy as not
following them.  And maybe work with the Lucene project about using
fully SRU compliant defaults.)

Lenya 2.0 is still in development.  Release was expected in 2006.
Search has been implemented, but SRU/CQL standards were not followed.

Which version is your concern?

solprovider

On 9/28/07, waheed iqbal  wrote:
> SRU is a protocol provides standards for different operations such as search
> Scan ,retrieve operation and Explain.
>
> 1) Where Lucene Indexed all contents inside the lenya.
> 2) How can i create a web page inside the lenya , i need to add some html
> pages and one servlet inside the lenya.
>
> Lenya is open source but im not able to find its developer guide.
>
> Your help will be very valuable for me
> Thanks
>
> Jürgen Ragaller  wrote:
> Am Sep 28, 2007 um 9:41 schrieb Thorsten Scherler:
> > On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 00:29 -0700, waheed iqbal wrote:
> >> I want to implement SRU compatible search in lenya. Can you please
> >> help me to provide some directions , how to accomplish this task.
> > What is a SRU compatible search?
> http://www.loc.gov/standards/sru/
> Jürgen

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Re: SRU compatible Search inside the lenya Lucene

Posted by so...@apache.org.
SRU and CQL are Library of Congress' attempts to standardize
querystring parameters for GET requests to search engines.  The effort
started around 2002 and first published in 2004.  (The years may be
wrong as I did not pay attention when the project first started.  Who
notices what the LOC does with the Internet?.) The attempt is long
overdue, but we have used AltaVista, Ask.com, DogPile, Excite, Google,
Yahoo, and many other Web SEs without noticing a lack of standards.

Lenya 1.2 Documentation:  Current production release is 1.2.5.
http://lenya.apache.org/docs/1_2_x/index.html
http://solprovider.com/lenya
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/

All functional additions required usecases requested in the
querystring or modifying the core functions.
http://solprovider.com/lenya/search explains how Lenya 1.2.4+ handles
search.  This could be modified to be almost SRU compliant.

Lenya 1.3 is still in development.  Expect release in December.
Search function will be SRU compliant.  (The search module needs to be
rewritten and following the standards would be good and as easy as not
following them.  And maybe work with the Lucene project about using
fully SRU compliant defaults.)

Lenya 2.0 is still in development.  Release was expected in 2006.
Search has been implemented, but SRU/CQL standards were not followed.

Which version is your concern?

solprovider

On 9/28/07, waheed iqbal <wa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> SRU is a protocol provides standards for different operations such as search
> Scan ,retrieve operation and Explain.
>
> 1) Where Lucene Indexed all contents inside the lenya.
> 2) How can i create a web page inside the lenya , i need to add some html
> pages and one servlet inside the lenya.
>
> Lenya is open source but im not able to find its developer guide.
>
> Your help will be very valuable for me
> Thanks
>
> Jürgen Ragaller <ra...@null-oder-eins.ch> wrote:
> Am Sep 28, 2007 um 9:41 schrieb Thorsten Scherler:
> > On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 00:29 -0700, waheed iqbal wrote:
> >> I want to implement SRU compatible search in lenya. Can you please
> >> help me to provide some directions , how to accomplish this task.
> > What is a SRU compatible search?
> http://www.loc.gov/standards/sru/
> Jürgen

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Re: SRU compatible Search inside the lenya Lucene

Posted by waheed iqbal <wa...@yahoo.com>.
SRU is a protocol provides standards for different operations such as search Scan ,retrieve operation and Explain.

I have following questions , please answer them

1) Where Lucene Indexed all contents inside the lenya.
2) How can i create a web page inside the lenya , i need to add some html pages and one servlet inside the lenya.

Lenya is open source but im not able to find its developer guide.

Your help will be very valuable for me
Thanks
Jürgen Ragaller <ra...@null-oder-eins.ch> wrote: 
Am Sep 28, 2007 um 9:41 schrieb Thorsten Scherler:

> On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 00:29 -0700, waheed iqbal wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I want to implement SRU compatible search in lenya. Can you please
>> help me to provide some directions , how to accomplish this task.
>
>
> What is a SRU compatible search?
>

I was asking myself the same question and found:
http://www.loc.gov/standards/sru/

Jürgen

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Re: SRU compatible Search inside the lenya Lucene

Posted by Jürgen Ragaller <ra...@null-oder-eins.ch>.
Am Sep 28, 2007 um 9:41 schrieb Thorsten Scherler:

> On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 00:29 -0700, waheed iqbal wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I want to implement SRU compatible search in lenya. Can you please
>> help me to provide some directions , how to accomplish this task.
>
>
> What is a SRU compatible search?
>

I was asking myself the same question and found:
http://www.loc.gov/standards/sru/

Jürgen

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Re: SRU compatible Search inside the lenya Lucene

Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 00:29 -0700, waheed iqbal wrote:
> Dear All, 
>  
> I want to implement SRU compatible search in lenya. Can you please
> help me to provide some directions , how to accomplish this task.


What is a SRU compatible search?

salu2

>  
> Regards
>  
> Waheed Iqbal
> 
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