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FUD right after download

Oh sweet irony, right after downloading AOO 4.0, and before one even
gets a chance to install it, you get the same FUD review from a LO
zealot as part of the SF.Net redirect to the reviews section...
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1351/3ni.png

(those are SourceForge.net's user-submitted reviews, which shows the
highest scoring review "vs" the lowest scoring one).

Strangely, it doesn't matter if you select "most helpful" or "sorted
by date" afterwards from the drop down at the bottom of that page, the
displayed reviews do not change, it's always the same 5-star, one-line
review that says "a great alternative" vs the 1-star review full of
AOO FUD from someone who says "use LO instead".

I feel tempted to write a one-star review that reads "I'm a
LibreOffice troll and I hate to see AOO 4.0 released!" and see if it
gets displayed :-P.

FC
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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by Roberto Galoppini <rg...@slashdotmedia.com>.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh sweet irony, right after downloading AOO 4.0, and before one even
> gets a chance to install it, you get the same FUD review from a LO
> zealot as part of the SF.Net redirect to the reviews section...
> http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1351/3ni.png
>
> (those are SourceForge.net's user-submitted reviews, which shows the
> highest scoring review "vs" the lowest scoring one).
>
> Strangely, it doesn't matter if you select "most helpful" or "sorted
> by date" afterwards from the drop down at the bottom of that page, the
> displayed reviews do not change, it's always the same 5-star, one-line
> review that says "a great alternative" vs the 1-star review full of
> AOO FUD from someone who says "use LO instead".

Thanks for heads up Fernando, this has been fixed now.
See https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/reviews/

Roberto

>
> I feel tempted to write a one-star review that reads "I'm a
> LibreOffice troll and I hate to see AOO 4.0 released!" and see if it
> gets displayed :-P.
>
> FC
> --
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
> - George Orwell

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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by roly luis <rl...@gmail.com>.
...And that during times of individual selfishness only then does true
Capitalism thrives, and that a pernicious New World Order can be prevented
from pervading as planned by the Elite Class.


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Or even better, write a real good review, praising AOO, but give it
> > only 1-star.  We'll benefit more from the good review than we will be
> > hurt by a single-star review.
> >
> > -Rob
>
> Good idea. The problem remains as to why those two reviews seem to be
> cast in stone...
> It doesnt look like those entries are dynamically updated...
>
> FC
>
> --
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
> revolutionary act
> Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
> Acto Revolucionario
> - George Orwell
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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by roly luis <rl...@gmail.com>.
...And that during times of individual selfishness only then does true
Capitalism thrives, and that a pernicious New World Order can be prevented
from pervading as planned by the Elite Class.


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Or even better, write a real good review, praising AOO, but give it
> > only 1-star.  We'll benefit more from the good review than we will be
> > hurt by a single-star review.
> >
> > -Rob
>
> Good idea. The problem remains as to why those two reviews seem to be
> cast in stone...
> It doesnt look like those entries are dynamically updated...
>
> FC
>
> --
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
> revolutionary act
> Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
> Acto Revolucionario
> - George Orwell
>
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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> Or even better, write a real good review, praising AOO, but give it
> only 1-star.  We'll benefit more from the good review than we will be
> hurt by a single-star review.
>
> -Rob

Good idea. The problem remains as to why those two reviews seem to be
cast in stone...
It doesnt look like those entries are dynamically updated...

FC

-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell

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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh sweet irony, right after downloading AOO 4.0, and before one even
> gets a chance to install it, you get the same FUD review from a LO
> zealot as part of the SF.Net redirect to the reviews section...
> http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1351/3ni.png
>
> (those are SourceForge.net's user-submitted reviews, which shows the
> highest scoring review "vs" the lowest scoring one).
>
> Strangely, it doesn't matter if you select "most helpful" or "sorted
> by date" afterwards from the drop down at the bottom of that page, the
> displayed reviews do not change, it's always the same 5-star, one-line
> review that says "a great alternative" vs the 1-star review full of
> AOO FUD from someone who says "use LO instead".
>
> I feel tempted to write a one-star review that reads "I'm a
> LibreOffice troll and I hate to see AOO 4.0 released!" and see if it
> gets displayed :-P.
>

Or even better, write a real good review, praising AOO, but give it
only 1-star.  We'll benefit more from the good review than we will be
hurt by a single-star review.

-Rob


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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Urmas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> more with your childish behavior?
>
>
> Can you be more specific?
>
> You are slandering your competitors' product by calling the small factual
> review of it 'FUD'. You are trying to incite a campaign by misrepresenting
> that product. You are trying to abuse review system to misrepresent it.
>

That page was for OpenOffice reviews, not LibreOffice reviews.  When
you insert a review of a different product into a review page, that is
called "spam".  It is legitimate to remove spam.    I've reported this
to SourceForge.

Of course, it would be perfectly legitimate to give a 1-star review
with specific comments about what they don't like about AOO.  I would
not have a problem with that.

-Rob

> The last thing people need to see are freetards throwing dirt at each other
> and arguing which fork of the same mediocre product is the best.
>
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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Urmas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are slandering your competitors' product by calling the small factual
> review of it 'FUD'.
You seem to have reading problems. The review I pasted and which
started this thread was a review posted by a LO supporter, on the AOO
SF.net user reviews page telling people to use LO instead. It is also
full of FUD, like saying AOO is not actively developed.

>You are trying to incite a campaign by misrepresenting
> that product.
oh yeah? where did I say that? I cannot respond for the product of
your imagination...

>You are trying to abuse review system to misrepresent it.
No

> The last thing people need to see are freetards
Interesting concept, I will from now on ignore anything else you say.
Good night, *sshole.

FC



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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by Urmas <da...@gmail.com>.
>more with your childish behavior?

Can you be more specific?

You are slandering your competitors' product by calling the small factual 
review of it 'FUD'. You are trying to incite a campaign by misrepresenting 
that product. You are trying to abuse review system to misrepresent it.

The last thing people need to see are freetards throwing dirt at each other 
and arguing which fork of the same mediocre product is the best. 



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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you understand that
>> you are hurting OO.o

I guess you mean AOO

>more with your childish behavior?
Can you be more specific?

FC
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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Urmas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is an objective review, why do you call it FUD? Do you understand that
> you are hurting OO.o more with your childish behavior?

Excuse me? Which one are you refering to?

FC
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Re: FUD right after download

Posted by Urmas <da...@gmail.com>.
Oh sweet irony, right after downloading AOO 4.0, and before one even
gets a chance to install it, you get the same FUD review from a LO
zealot as part of the SF.Net redirect to the reviews section...

That is an objective review, why do you call it FUD? Do you understand that 
you are hurting OO.o more with your childish behavior? 



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