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[GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc opened a new issue #15: Create branch for the Base Guide
knmc opened a new issue #15:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15
Create and populate the branch for Base Guide
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[GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc commented on issue #15: Create branch for the Base Guide
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
knmc commented on issue #15:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15#issuecomment-783088411
This looks like it could be the same [from our mwiki.](https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=QA/Database&offset=20120801061326&limit=500&action=historyurl)
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Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc commented on issue #15: Create
branch for the Base Guide
Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
On 2/22/2021 1:26 PM, F Campos Costero wrote:
> I thought that since none of the documentation is being distributed with
> the product released by the PMC, i.e. the AOO suite, we could use materials
> with licenses that would not usually be allowed. The Guides are dual
> licensed as GPL 3 (category X) or CC-by Category B, binary only). I'm not
> sure what "binary" means for documentation but distributing an odt file
> does not seem to meet that criterion. Am I confused?
> Francis
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:27 AM Keith N. McKenna <ke...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/22/2021 6:26 AM, Dick Groskamp wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2021/02/22 05:13:57, GitBox <gi...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> knmc commented on issue #15:
>>>> URL:
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15#issuecomment-783087015
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could this be the same one?
>>>> [](
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=QA/Database&offset=20120801061326&limit=500&action=history
>> )
>>>>
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>>> The file is here:
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/0/02/Base_tutorial.pdf
>>> Just uploaded it a short while ago, since it was missing.
>>>
>>> The SQL that belongs to the file is also there:
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/1/1d/Base_Tutorial_SQL_code.txt
>>>
>>> Both files mentioned on our wiki: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Base
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>>
>> Digro;
>>
>> I do not believe that this should be distributed from the mwiki.It is
>> Licensed under the cc-by-nc-sa 3.0 which is a category X license.
>>
>> The other you linked to is the wiki version of the Getting started guide
>> chapter 8 which we already have.I appears that we will have to take that
>> odt file as a starting point and write the rest from scratch.
>>
>> As always other options are both appreciated and encouraged.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
Francis;
The second license on the 3.x docs is cc-by version 3.0. This is the
license that was cleared by my inquiry to legal @ as long as they did
not appear in an "Official Release. the license that the Base PDF
carries is cc-by-NC-SA which is a very controversial license as it does
not really define what non-commercial use is and courts around the world
have interpreted it differently.
Given that we could be at risk by having it on the mwiki and definitely
should not have it in our repository.
Regards
Keith
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc commented on issue #15: Create
branch for the Base Guide
Posted by F Campos Costero <fj...@gmail.com>.
I thought that since none of the documentation is being distributed with
the product released by the PMC, i.e. the AOO suite, we could use materials
with licenses that would not usually be allowed. The Guides are dual
licensed as GPL 3 (category X) or CC-by Category B, binary only). I'm not
sure what "binary" means for documentation but distributing an odt file
does not seem to meet that criterion. Am I confused?
Francis
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:27 AM Keith N. McKenna <ke...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> On 2/22/2021 6:26 AM, Dick Groskamp wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2021/02/22 05:13:57, GitBox <gi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> knmc commented on issue #15:
> >> URL:
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15#issuecomment-783087015
> >>
> >>
> >> Could this be the same one?
> >> [](
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=QA/Database&offset=20120801061326&limit=500&action=history
> )
> >>
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> > The file is here:
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/0/02/Base_tutorial.pdf
> > Just uploaded it a short while ago, since it was missing.
> >
> > The SQL that belongs to the file is also there:
> > https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/1/1d/Base_Tutorial_SQL_code.txt
> >
> > Both files mentioned on our wiki: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Base
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> Digro;
>
> I do not believe that this should be distributed from the mwiki.It is
> Licensed under the cc-by-nc-sa 3.0 which is a category X license.
>
> The other you linked to is the wiki version of the Getting started guide
> chapter 8 which we already have.I appears that we will have to take that
> odt file as a starting point and write the rest from scratch.
>
> As always other options are both appreciated and encouraged.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc commented on issue #15: Create
branch for the Base Guide
Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
On 2/22/2021 6:26 AM, Dick Groskamp wrote:
>
>
> On 2021/02/22 05:13:57, GitBox <gi...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> knmc commented on issue #15:
>> URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15#issuecomment-783087015
>>
>>
>> Could this be the same one?
>> [](https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=QA/Database&offset=20120801061326&limit=500&action=history)
>>
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> The file is here: https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/0/02/Base_tutorial.pdf
> Just uploaded it a short while ago, since it was missing.
>
> The SQL that belongs to the file is also there:
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/1/1d/Base_Tutorial_SQL_code.txt
>
> Both files mentioned on our wiki: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Base
>
> Greetings
>
Digro;
I do not believe that this should be distributed from the mwiki.It is
Licensed under the cc-by-nc-sa 3.0 which is a category X license.
The other you linked to is the wiki version of the Getting started guide
chapter 8 which we already have.I appears that we will have to take that
odt file as a starting point and write the rest from scratch.
As always other options are both appreciated and encouraged.
Regards
Keith
Re: [GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc commented on issue #15: Create branch for the Base Guide
Posted by Dick Groskamp <di...@apache.org>.
On 2021/02/22 05:13:57, GitBox <gi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> knmc commented on issue #15:
> URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15#issuecomment-783087015
>
>
> Could this be the same one?
> [](https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=QA/Database&offset=20120801061326&limit=500&action=history)
>
>
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The file is here: https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/0/02/Base_tutorial.pdf
Just uploaded it a short while ago, since it was missing.
The SQL that belongs to the file is also there:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/1/1d/Base_Tutorial_SQL_code.txt
Both files mentioned on our wiki: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Base
Greetings
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[GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc commented on issue #15: Create branch for the Base Guide
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
knmc commented on issue #15:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15#issuecomment-783087015
Could this be the same one?
[](https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=QA/Database&offset=20120801061326&limit=500&action=history)
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[GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc commented on issue #15: Create branch for the Base Guide
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
knmc commented on issue #15:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15#issuecomment-783088720
Closed prematurely.
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[GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc commented on issue #15: Create branch for the Base Guide
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
knmc commented on issue #15:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15#issuecomment-782938031
On hold for discussion on how to proceed as no full guide was ever produced.
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[GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc commented on issue #15: Create branch for the Base Guide
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
knmc commented on issue #15:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15#issuecomment-783642768
Moved to **On Hold** for discussion on how best to write.
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[GitHub] [openoffice-docs] knmc closed issue #15: Create branch for the Base Guide
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
knmc closed issue #15:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15
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[GitHub] [openoffice-docs] FJCC commented on issue #15: Create branch for the Base Guide
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
FJCC commented on issue #15:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice-docs/issues/15#issuecomment-783078993
There is an excellent guide, though not in the usual style, written by Mariano Casanova about 10 years ago..
[https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/02/Base_tutorial.pdf](url)
Though it is currently available on the TDF site, it was written in the OpenOffice.org days, as is obvious in the front matter.
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