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Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages
I would like to help out with the task listed at
https://helpwanted.apache.org/task.html?0b349bee
Re: Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages
Posted by Roy Lenferink <le...@gmail.com>.
Hi Mark,
Thank you for your response and sorting this out. At first the page was
nominated for deletion again, even with your answer and pointing to the
License. After some time she changed her mind because she took an actual
look on the website.
For everyone else working on this task, Wikipedia works in the way when you
are using a sentence from the project its websites, you have to
specifically mention the website is licensed under the Apache License as
well.
For an example, see "External links" on [1] : "*Prose in this article was
copied from this source, which is released under an Apache License, Version
2.0.*"
Thanks Mark!
Roy
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Celix
2018-03-22 9:33 GMT+00:00 Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>:
> Roy,
>
> I spoken with the editor concerned [1] and it should be possible for you
> to recreate the Apache Celix page and any other pages that that editor
> removed.
>
> For future reference in case it helps you or others:
>
> The content of all of our web sites is licensed under the Apache
> License, version 2 unless explicitly stated otherwise. I can't think of
> any examples of alternative licencing off the top of my head but there
> might be a few instances somewhere.
>
> The ALv2 permits re-use (see sections 2 and 4 in particular).
>
> While section 6 of the ALv2 may appear to prevent the use of logos, it
> does not prevent nominative use [2] and our policy explicitly calls out
> using the logo in an article to refer to the project as being OK [3].
>
> HTH,
>
> Mark
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RHaworth
> [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#principles
> [3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines
>
>
> On 20/03/18 20:32, Roy Lenferink wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I also started with this task. What should one do to keep the pages to
> > exist?
> >
> > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Celix
> > * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_Celix.png
> > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Zeppelin
> > * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_Zeppelin.png
> >
> > And this is going on for all the pages.
> >
> > The response: Looking at the license, material created using the software
> > is released under license. But the license does not appear to extend to
> > their webpages, logos, and so on. Asking for pages to be created is not
> the
> > same thing as releasing copyright material under a compatible license.
> >
> > Even when using the main project sentence which explains the project
> which
> > is stored in the official README in the GitHub repository mirror a
> > complaint is filed:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Apache_Zeppelin
> >
> > What is probably the best way to resolve this, as the information put on
> > Wikipedia should match the Apache TLP its website.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > 2018-03-15 18:40 GMT+00:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
> >
> >> What I would recommend as a starting point is to go to the Apache
> Software
> >> Foundation wikipedia page, and stub in links to all of the projects that
> >> are listed at projects.apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >> On 03/15/2018 05:29 AM, THE THE wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would like to help out with the task listed at
> >>> https://helpwanted.apache.org/task.html?0b349bee
> >>>
> >>>
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>
>
Re: Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages
Posted by Chris Mattmann <ma...@apache.org>.
This happened to me with Wikipedia as well – a picture I took myself they tried to
say I was copyright infringing. Sigh.
Alternative suggestion here – use Everipedia! ☺ It’s based on Blockchain and super cool.
Cheers,
Chris
From: Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
Reply-To: "dev@community.apache.org" <de...@community.apache.org>
Date: Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 2:33 AM
To: "dev@community.apache.org" <de...@community.apache.org>, Roy Lenferink <le...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages
Roy,
I spoken with the editor concerned [1] and it should be possible for you
to recreate the Apache Celix page and any other pages that that editor
removed.
For future reference in case it helps you or others:
The content of all of our web sites is licensed under the Apache
License, version 2 unless explicitly stated otherwise. I can't think of
any examples of alternative licencing off the top of my head but there
might be a few instances somewhere.
The ALv2 permits re-use (see sections 2 and 4 in particular).
While section 6 of the ALv2 may appear to prevent the use of logos, it
does not prevent nominative use [2] and our policy explicitly calls out
using the logo in an article to refer to the project as being OK [3].
HTH,
Mark
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RHaworth
[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#principles
[3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines
On 20/03/18 20:32, Roy Lenferink wrote:
Hi,
I also started with this task. What should one do to keep the pages to
exist?
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Celix
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_Celix.png
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Zeppelin
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_Zeppelin.png
And this is going on for all the pages.
The response: Looking at the license, material created using the software
is released under license. But the license does not appear to extend to
their webpages, logos, and so on. Asking for pages to be created is not the
same thing as releasing copyright material under a compatible license.
Even when using the main project sentence which explains the project which
is stored in the official README in the GitHub repository mirror a
complaint is filed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Apache_Zeppelin
What is probably the best way to resolve this, as the information put on
Wikipedia should match the Apache TLP its website.
Roy
2018-03-15 18:40 GMT+00:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
What I would recommend as a starting point is to go to the Apache Software
Foundation wikipedia page, and stub in links to all of the projects that
are listed at projects.apache.org
On 03/15/2018 05:29 AM, THE THE wrote:
I would like to help out with the task listed at
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Re: Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
Roy,
I spoken with the editor concerned [1] and it should be possible for you
to recreate the Apache Celix page and any other pages that that editor
removed.
For future reference in case it helps you or others:
The content of all of our web sites is licensed under the Apache
License, version 2 unless explicitly stated otherwise. I can't think of
any examples of alternative licencing off the top of my head but there
might be a few instances somewhere.
The ALv2 permits re-use (see sections 2 and 4 in particular).
While section 6 of the ALv2 may appear to prevent the use of logos, it
does not prevent nominative use [2] and our policy explicitly calls out
using the logo in an article to refer to the project as being OK [3].
HTH,
Mark
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RHaworth
[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#principles
[3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines
On 20/03/18 20:32, Roy Lenferink wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I also started with this task. What should one do to keep the pages to
> exist?
>
> * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Celix
> * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_Celix.png
> * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Zeppelin
> * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_Zeppelin.png
>
> And this is going on for all the pages.
>
> The response: Looking at the license, material created using the software
> is released under license. But the license does not appear to extend to
> their webpages, logos, and so on. Asking for pages to be created is not the
> same thing as releasing copyright material under a compatible license.
>
> Even when using the main project sentence which explains the project which
> is stored in the official README in the GitHub repository mirror a
> complaint is filed:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Apache_Zeppelin
>
> What is probably the best way to resolve this, as the information put on
> Wikipedia should match the Apache TLP its website.
>
> Roy
>
> 2018-03-15 18:40 GMT+00:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>
>> What I would recommend as a starting point is to go to the Apache Software
>> Foundation wikipedia page, and stub in links to all of the projects that
>> are listed at projects.apache.org
>>
>>
>> On 03/15/2018 05:29 AM, THE THE wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to help out with the task listed at
>>> https://helpwanted.apache.org/task.html?0b349bee
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages
Posted by Roy Lenferink <le...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I also started with this task. What should one do to keep the pages to
exist?
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Celix
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_Celix.png
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Zeppelin
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_Zeppelin.png
And this is going on for all the pages.
The response: Looking at the license, material created using the software
is released under license. But the license does not appear to extend to
their webpages, logos, and so on. Asking for pages to be created is not the
same thing as releasing copyright material under a compatible license.
Even when using the main project sentence which explains the project which
is stored in the official README in the GitHub repository mirror a
complaint is filed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Apache_Zeppelin
What is probably the best way to resolve this, as the information put on
Wikipedia should match the Apache TLP its website.
Roy
2018-03-15 18:40 GMT+00:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
> What I would recommend as a starting point is to go to the Apache Software
> Foundation wikipedia page, and stub in links to all of the projects that
> are listed at projects.apache.org
>
>
> On 03/15/2018 05:29 AM, THE THE wrote:
>
>> I would like to help out with the task listed at
>> https://helpwanted.apache.org/task.html?0b349bee
>>
>>
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>
>
Re: Help with task: Ensure all Apache TLPs have Wikipedia pages
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
What I would recommend as a starting point is to go to the Apache
Software Foundation wikipedia page, and stub in links to all of the
projects that are listed at projects.apache.org
On 03/15/2018 05:29 AM, THE THE wrote:
> I would like to help out with the task listed at
> https://helpwanted.apache.org/task.html?0b349bee
>
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