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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es> on 2008/09/17 11:21:08 UTC
ODT plugins - we should unify them
Hi all,
some other aired this concern before but latest user thread revealed
that we should reduce the number of plugins around OO.
Can't we unify them into one?
salu2
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Re: ODT plugins - we should unify them
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 11:48 +0200, Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote:
> le 17/09/2008 12:03 Thorsten Scherler a écrit :
> > On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 19:37 +1000, Gavin wrote:
> >
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:thorsten.scherler.ext@juntadeandalucia.es]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 7:21 PM
> >>> To: dev@forrest.apache.org
> >>> Subject: ODT plugins - we should unify them
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> some other aired this concern before but latest user thread revealed
> >>> that we should reduce the number of plugins around OO.
> >>>
> >>> Can't we unify them into one?
> >>>
> >> Which are we talking about, the OpenOffice.org output and the OOo output ?
> >>
> >> If so , the first is OpenOffice v1 and second is OpenOffice.org V2 and is
> >> based more on the OpenDocument format whereas version 1 is not.
> >> One outputs sxw and the other outputs odt.
> >>
> >> Despite the names, it would be like merging Word and Excel together.
> >>
> >> I suppose we can put the stylesheets etc all under one roof, and be able to
> >> output eiter sxw or odt depending on the users needs.
> >>
> >> I need to concentrate on Version 2, rather than the 6 years obsolete version
> >> 1. But can look into it another time.
> >>
> >
> > Personally I think the legacy code should be moved to whiteboard (with a
> > BIG Deprecated warning).
> >
> > I can see:
> > plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.OpenOffice.org
> > whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.odt
> >
> Hum, why do you want to deprecate this one ?
I do not want the list is all the plugins we have around oo.
salu2
> This is the current opendocument format used by OpenOffice.org.
>
> Cyriaque,
> > whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.OpenOffice.org-output
> > whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.output.OOo
> >
> > salu2
> >
> >
> >> Gav...
> >>
> >>
> >>> salu2
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Re: ODT plugins - we should unify them
Posted by Cyriaque Dupoirieux <cy...@pco-innovation.com>.
le 17/09/2008 12:03 Thorsten Scherler a écrit :
> On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 19:37 +1000, Gavin wrote:
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:thorsten.scherler.ext@juntadeandalucia.es]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 7:21 PM
>>> To: dev@forrest.apache.org
>>> Subject: ODT plugins - we should unify them
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> some other aired this concern before but latest user thread revealed
>>> that we should reduce the number of plugins around OO.
>>>
>>> Can't we unify them into one?
>>>
>> Which are we talking about, the OpenOffice.org output and the OOo output ?
>>
>> If so , the first is OpenOffice v1 and second is OpenOffice.org V2 and is
>> based more on the OpenDocument format whereas version 1 is not.
>> One outputs sxw and the other outputs odt.
>>
>> Despite the names, it would be like merging Word and Excel together.
>>
>> I suppose we can put the stylesheets etc all under one roof, and be able to
>> output eiter sxw or odt depending on the users needs.
>>
>> I need to concentrate on Version 2, rather than the 6 years obsolete version
>> 1. But can look into it another time.
>>
>
> Personally I think the legacy code should be moved to whiteboard (with a
> BIG Deprecated warning).
>
> I can see:
> plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.OpenOffice.org
> whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.odt
>
Hum, why do you want to deprecate this one ?
This is the current opendocument format used by OpenOffice.org.
Cyriaque,
> whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.OpenOffice.org-output
> whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.output.OOo
>
> salu2
>
>
>> Gav...
>>
>>
>>> salu2
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>>>
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>
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Re: ODT plugins - we should unify them
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 06:28 -0400, Tim Williams wrote:
...
> > Personally I think the legacy code should be moved to whiteboard (with a
> > BIG Deprecated warning).
>
> The code isn't legacy, the document format is simply dated. If the
> code still works fine and is appropriate for that older format, then
> it probably shouldn't be marked deprecated either. The whiteboard
> seems inappropriate too - seems almost counter-intuitive to put it
> there since whiteboard is generally for development work. Maybe we
> ought to have another plugins directory called 'dormant' a la
> Commons[1] as a nice place for old, working plugins to go for
> retirement?
That is fine with me. I pointed to whiteboard to point to place but your
suggestion is way better.
salu2
>
> --tim
>
> [1] - http://commons.apache.org/dormant/index.html
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Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org
Open Source Java consulting, training and solutions
Re: ODT plugins - we should unify them
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Thorsten Scherler
<th...@juntadeandalucia.es> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 19:37 +1000, Gavin wrote:
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:thorsten.scherler.ext@juntadeandalucia.es]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 7:21 PM
>> > To: dev@forrest.apache.org
>> > Subject: ODT plugins - we should unify them
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > some other aired this concern before but latest user thread revealed
>> > that we should reduce the number of plugins around OO.
>> >
>> > Can't we unify them into one?
>>
>> Which are we talking about, the OpenOffice.org output and the OOo output ?
>>
>> If so , the first is OpenOffice v1 and second is OpenOffice.org V2 and is
>> based more on the OpenDocument format whereas version 1 is not.
>> One outputs sxw and the other outputs odt.
>>
>> Despite the names, it would be like merging Word and Excel together.
>>
>> I suppose we can put the stylesheets etc all under one roof, and be able to
>> output eiter sxw or odt depending on the users needs.
>>
>> I need to concentrate on Version 2, rather than the 6 years obsolete version
>> 1. But can look into it another time.
>
> Personally I think the legacy code should be moved to whiteboard (with a
> BIG Deprecated warning).
The code isn't legacy, the document format is simply dated. If the
code still works fine and is appropriate for that older format, then
it probably shouldn't be marked deprecated either. The whiteboard
seems inappropriate too - seems almost counter-intuitive to put it
there since whiteboard is generally for development work. Maybe we
ought to have another plugins directory called 'dormant' a la
Commons[1] as a nice place for old, working plugins to go for
retirement?
--tim
[1] - http://commons.apache.org/dormant/index.html
RE: ODT plugins - we should unify them
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 19:37 +1000, Gavin wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:thorsten.scherler.ext@juntadeandalucia.es]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 7:21 PM
> > To: dev@forrest.apache.org
> > Subject: ODT plugins - we should unify them
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > some other aired this concern before but latest user thread revealed
> > that we should reduce the number of plugins around OO.
> >
> > Can't we unify them into one?
>
> Which are we talking about, the OpenOffice.org output and the OOo output ?
>
> If so , the first is OpenOffice v1 and second is OpenOffice.org V2 and is
> based more on the OpenDocument format whereas version 1 is not.
> One outputs sxw and the other outputs odt.
>
> Despite the names, it would be like merging Word and Excel together.
>
> I suppose we can put the stylesheets etc all under one roof, and be able to
> output eiter sxw or odt depending on the users needs.
>
> I need to concentrate on Version 2, rather than the 6 years obsolete version
> 1. But can look into it another time.
Personally I think the legacy code should be moved to whiteboard (with a
BIG Deprecated warning).
I can see:
plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.OpenOffice.org
whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.input.odt
whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.OpenOffice.org-output
whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.output.OOo
salu2
>
> Gav...
>
> >
> > salu2
> > --
> > Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org
> > Open Source Java consulting, training and solutions
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG.
> > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1668 - Release Date: 9/12/2008
> > 6:56 AM
>
--
Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org
Open Source Java consulting, training and solutions
RE: ODT plugins - we should unify them
Posted by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:thorsten.scherler.ext@juntadeandalucia.es]
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 7:21 PM
> To: dev@forrest.apache.org
> Subject: ODT plugins - we should unify them
>
> Hi all,
>
> some other aired this concern before but latest user thread revealed
> that we should reduce the number of plugins around OO.
>
> Can't we unify them into one?
Which are we talking about, the OpenOffice.org output and the OOo output ?
If so , the first is OpenOffice v1 and second is OpenOffice.org V2 and is
based more on the OpenDocument format whereas version 1 is not.
One outputs sxw and the other outputs odt.
Despite the names, it would be like merging Word and Excel together.
I suppose we can put the stylesheets etc all under one roof, and be able to
output eiter sxw or odt depending on the users needs.
I need to concentrate on Version 2, rather than the 6 years obsolete version
1. But can look into it another time.
Gav...
>
> salu2
> --
> Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org
> Open Source Java consulting, training and solutions
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG.
> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1668 - Release Date: 9/12/2008
> 6:56 AM