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Posted to users@myfaces.apache.org by "D. Cardon" <my...@yahoo.com> on 2007/07/10 00:11:42 UTC
[Trinidad] Setting the document type
How do I set the DOCTYPE declaration, when using a <tr:document>?
Currently, Trinidad appears to render out the HTML as:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd" ...>
Is there any way to change this?
Thanks,
--David
____________________________________________________________________________________
Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
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Re: [Trinidad] Setting the document type
Posted by Abhijit Ghosh <ab...@gmail.com>.
Or another easy way to check whether the browser is running in quirks mode
is to check the return value of 'document.compatMode' in the Firebug console
or in a script in the page.If the browser is in quirks mode the returned
value will be 'BackCompat' or something similar.
-- Abhi
On 7/10/07, Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ah yeah, those nasties... And that might be your issue too... I had one of
> those not too long ago. You can discard the possibility by saving the
> generated page on your disk then manually change the doctype to see if the
> result is better.
>
> The problem only ever happened with tables for me.
>
>
> Regards
>
> On 7/10/07, D. Cardon <my_trash_mail@yahoo.com > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.
> >
> > Actually, the only reason I wanted to change the doctype, was to make
> > certain that my browser
> > isn't in quirks mode. I've just been having some annoying cross-browser
> > rendering difficulties
> > and wanted to eliminate that possibility.
> >
> > --David
> >
> > --- Simon Lessard < simon.lessard.3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello David,
> > >
> > > Sadly, it isn't possible currently and the resulting page would not
> > look any
> > > better than with current doctype (transitional for main page and
> > frameset
> > > for dialogs). Also, the generated markup would not pass w3c validation
> > > because of issues like invalid ids, elements not supporting attribute
> > "name"
> > > as well as some other issues. We're working on better supporting the
> > > standard, but some issues requires JSF 1.2 to be more compliant
> > (namely
> > > invalid id error).
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > ~ Simon
> > >
> > > On 7/10/07, D. Cardon < my_trash_mail@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I would just like to be able to enforce <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC
> > > > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
> > > > " http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> on the document.
> > > >
> > > > --David
> > > >
> > > > --- Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > No, there isn't currently. What DTD are you looking for?
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Adam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/9/07, D. Cardon < my_trash_mail@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > How do I set the DOCTYPE declaration, when using a
> > <tr:document>?
> > > > > > Currently, Trinidad appears to render out the HTML as:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "
> > > > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd" ...>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any way to change this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --David
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> > > > story. Play Sims Stories at
> > > > > Yahoo! Games.
> > > > > > http://sims.yahoo.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > ____________________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books?
> > > > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search
> > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
> >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > TV dinner still cooling?
> > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
> > http://tv.yahoo.com/
> >
>
>
Re: [Trinidad] Setting the document type
Posted by Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com>.
Ah yeah, those nasties... And that might be your issue too... I had one of
those not too long ago. You can discard the possibility by saving the
generated page on your disk then manually change the doctype to see if the
result is better.
The problem only ever happened with tables for me.
Regards
On 7/10/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> Actually, the only reason I wanted to change the doctype, was to make
> certain that my browser
> isn't in quirks mode. I've just been having some annoying cross-browser
> rendering difficulties
> and wanted to eliminate that possibility.
>
> --David
>
> --- Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello David,
> >
> > Sadly, it isn't possible currently and the resulting page would not look
> any
> > better than with current doctype (transitional for main page and
> frameset
> > for dialogs). Also, the generated markup would not pass w3c validation
> > because of issues like invalid ids, elements not supporting attribute
> "name"
> > as well as some other issues. We're working on better supporting the
> > standard, but some issues requires JSF 1.2 to be more compliant (namely
> > invalid id error).
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > ~ Simon
> >
> > On 7/10/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I would just like to be able to enforce <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC
> > > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
> > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> on the document.
> > >
> > > --David
> > >
> > > --- Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > No, there isn't currently. What DTD are you looking for?
> > > >
> > > > -- Adam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/9/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > How do I set the DOCTYPE declaration, when using a <tr:document>?
> > > > > Currently, Trinidad appears to render out the HTML as:
> > > > >
> > > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "
> > > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd" ...>
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any way to change this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > --David
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> > > story. Play Sims Stories at
> > > > Yahoo! Games.
> > > > > http://sims.yahoo.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books?
> > > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search
> > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> TV dinner still cooling?
> Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
> http://tv.yahoo.com/
>
Re: [Trinidad] Setting the document type
Posted by Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com>.
"loose" is not in quirks mode. It's "almost standards" mode, which
is virtually identical to full standards mode.
(Note that if there's whitespace above the doctype, you can
end up in quirks mode unexpectedly).
-- Adam
On 7/10/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> Actually, the only reason I wanted to change the doctype, was to make certain that my browser
> isn't in quirks mode. I've just been having some annoying cross-browser rendering difficulties
> and wanted to eliminate that possibility.
>
> --David
>
> --- Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello David,
> >
> > Sadly, it isn't possible currently and the resulting page would not look any
> > better than with current doctype (transitional for main page and frameset
> > for dialogs). Also, the generated markup would not pass w3c validation
> > because of issues like invalid ids, elements not supporting attribute "name"
> > as well as some other issues. We're working on better supporting the
> > standard, but some issues requires JSF 1.2 to be more compliant (namely
> > invalid id error).
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > ~ Simon
> >
> > On 7/10/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I would just like to be able to enforce <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC
> > > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
> > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> on the document.
> > >
> > > --David
> > >
> > > --- Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > No, there isn't currently. What DTD are you looking for?
> > > >
> > > > -- Adam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/9/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > How do I set the DOCTYPE declaration, when using a <tr:document>?
> > > > > Currently, Trinidad appears to render out the HTML as:
> > > > >
> > > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "
> > > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd" ...>
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any way to change this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > --David
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> > > story. Play Sims Stories at
> > > > Yahoo! Games.
> > > > > http://sims.yahoo.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books?
> > > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search
> > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> TV dinner still cooling?
> Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
> http://tv.yahoo.com/
>
Re: [Trinidad] Setting the document type
Posted by "D. Cardon" <my...@yahoo.com>.
Thanks for your reply.
Actually, the only reason I wanted to change the doctype, was to make certain that my browser
isn't in quirks mode. I've just been having some annoying cross-browser rendering difficulties
and wanted to eliminate that possibility.
--David
--- Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello David,
>
> Sadly, it isn't possible currently and the resulting page would not look any
> better than with current doctype (transitional for main page and frameset
> for dialogs). Also, the generated markup would not pass w3c validation
> because of issues like invalid ids, elements not supporting attribute "name"
> as well as some other issues. We're working on better supporting the
> standard, but some issues requires JSF 1.2 to be more compliant (namely
> invalid id error).
>
>
> Regards,
>
> ~ Simon
>
> On 7/10/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I would just like to be able to enforce <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
> > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> on the document.
> >
> > --David
> >
> > --- Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > No, there isn't currently. What DTD are you looking for?
> > >
> > > -- Adam
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/9/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > How do I set the DOCTYPE declaration, when using a <tr:document>?
> > > > Currently, Trinidad appears to render out the HTML as:
> > > >
> > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd" ...>
> > > >
> > > > Is there any way to change this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > --David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> > story. Play Sims Stories at
> > > Yahoo! Games.
> > > > http://sims.yahoo.com/
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > Luggage? GPS? Comic books?
> > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search
> > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
> >
>
____________________________________________________________________________________
TV dinner still cooling?
Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: [Trinidad] Setting the document type
Posted by Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com>.
Hello David,
Sadly, it isn't possible currently and the resulting page would not look any
better than with current doctype (transitional for main page and frameset
for dialogs). Also, the generated markup would not pass w3c validation
because of issues like invalid ids, elements not supporting attribute "name"
as well as some other issues. We're working on better supporting the
standard, but some issues requires JSF 1.2 to be more compliant (namely
invalid id error).
Regards,
~ Simon
On 7/10/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I would just like to be able to enforce <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC
> "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> on the document.
>
> --David
>
> --- Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No, there isn't currently. What DTD are you looking for?
> >
> > -- Adam
> >
> >
> > On 7/9/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > How do I set the DOCTYPE declaration, when using a <tr:document>?
> > > Currently, Trinidad appears to render out the HTML as:
> > >
> > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd" ...>
> > >
> > > Is there any way to change this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> story. Play Sims Stories at
> > Yahoo! Games.
> > > http://sims.yahoo.com/
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?
> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
>
Re: [Trinidad] Setting the document type
Posted by "D. Cardon" <my...@yahoo.com>.
Well, I would just like to be able to enforce <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> on the document.
--David
--- Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, there isn't currently. What DTD are you looking for?
>
> -- Adam
>
>
> On 7/9/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > How do I set the DOCTYPE declaration, when using a <tr:document>?
> > Currently, Trinidad appears to render out the HTML as:
> >
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd" ...>
> >
> > Is there any way to change this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at
> Yahoo! Games.
> > http://sims.yahoo.com/
> >
>
____________________________________________________________________________________
Luggage? GPS? Comic books?
Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search
http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
Re: [Trinidad] Setting the document type
Posted by Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com>.
No, there isn't currently. What DTD are you looking for?
-- Adam
On 7/9/07, D. Cardon <my...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> How do I set the DOCTYPE declaration, when using a <tr:document>?
> Currently, Trinidad appears to render out the HTML as:
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd" ...>
>
> Is there any way to change this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --David
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> http://sims.yahoo.com/
>