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Posted to dev@hawq.apache.org by "刘奎恩(局外)" <ku...@alibaba-inc.com> on 2018/04/28 11:02:00 UTC
回复：[DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Great news, I have no reason to reject this wonderful idea. One consideration is may we have time window to do a bit more efforts on execuation engine? because these derivative startup projects (hawq+, deepgreen) all claims their superiority on execuation engine. Maybe, Hawq may co-plan it with Greenplum, it is one common issue in both data warehouse.
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------------------------------------------------------------------发件人：Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>发送时间：2018年4月26日(星期四) 10:16收件人：dev <de...@hawq.incubator.apache.org>主 题：[DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Hi All,
With the Apache HAWQ community keep healthy and growing, I think now would
be a good time to discuss where we stand regarding to graduation from the
Incubator, and what requirements remains.
Apache HAWQ entered incubation in September of 2015, since then, the HAWQ
community learned a lot about how to do things in Apache ways. Now we are a
very helpful and engaged community, ready to help on all questions
from the HAWQ
community. We delivered four releases including two binary releases, now we
can do self-driving releases in good cadence. The community is growing,
new committers and PPMC members keep joining. We addressed the maturity
issues one by one followed by Apache Project Maturity Model [1], currently all
the License and IP issues we can see got resolved.
Base on those, I believes it's time for us to graduate to TLP. [2]
Any thoughts? And welcome advice from HAWQ Mentors?
Thanks,
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HAWQ/ASF+Maturity+Evaluation
[2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#grad
uating_to_a_top_level_project
Regards,
Radar
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>.
Thanks Bosco.
I also did some research by Linkedin, now I have a full picture of the
committer/PMC affiliations.
Regards,
Radar
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:36 PM, Don Bosco Durai <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Radar
>
> Mine is "Privacera"
>
> Thanks
>
> Bosco
>
>
> On 6/14/18, 1:08 AM, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I will keep the affiliation topic till next Monday, you can also ping
> me
> your affiliation so it's name can be list on the resolution.
>
> BTW, thanks Roman, Alan and Atri's share.
>
>
> Regards,
> Radar
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:47 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Alan Gates - Hortonworks.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:37 PM Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I'm counting the PMC/Committer affiliation, please let me know
> what's
> >> your affiliation if convenience. Thanks.
> >>
> >> E.g.
> >> PMC affiliation
> >> Pivotal (22)
> >> Oushu (7)
> >> Hashdata (2)
> >> Amazon(1)
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Radar
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks all. Now I'm pretty close to finish drafting the
> resolution, will
> >>> send it out soon.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Radar
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Lili Ma <li...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Radar for your great efforts for preparation for HAWQ
> graduation!
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm very glad to see our product having coming to the phase of
> >>>> graduation
> >>>> discussion, and I believe we are always a team no matter where we
> work
> >>>> at
> >>>> now. I hope we can soon graduate HAWQ as a TLP :)
> >>>>
> >>>> As for chairman, I support Lei Chang too. He initiated the idea of
> >>>> putting
> >>>> SQL on top of HDFS and lead us through the process of HAWQ Alpha,
> 1.0
> >>>> version, 2.0 version, open source, etc. And he is still working
> on this
> >>>> project actively :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Best Regards,
> >>>> Lili Ma
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2018-06-04 8:35 GMT-04:00 Lei Chang <ch...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Thank you guys for the nomination :-).
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Great to work with the team on the HAWQ graduation and any
> future
> >>>> issues.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Cheers
> >>>> > Lei
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:50 AM, 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > +1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC
> Chairman.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > 2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > > +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ
> project PMC
> >>>> > > Chairman,
> >>>> > > > he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions
> to this
> >>>> > project
> >>>> > > > in a very long period till today also his solid leadership
> and
> >>>> vision.
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > Best,
> >>>> > > > Yi Jin
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <
> espino@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > > Ruilong,
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache
> HAWQ
> >>>> > project's
> >>>> > > > > initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have
> contributed
> >>>> > > > immensely
> >>>> > > > > to the project.
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Regards,
> >>>> > > > > -=e
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <
> huor@apache.org>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks
> Radar
> >>>> for
> >>>> > > pushing
> >>>> > > > > > this forward!
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He
> >>>> initiated
> >>>> > > HAWQ
> >>>> > > > > > project several years ago, led the development, brought
> it to
> >>>> > Apache
> >>>> > > > > > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ
> community to
> >>>> make
> >>>> > it a
> >>>> > > > > > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully
> >>>> Apache
> >>>> > > > project.
> >>>> > > > > > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I
> >>>> believe he
> >>>> > > > will
> >>>> > > > > > continue to share his insights and go even further with
> HAWQ
> >>>> after
> >>>> > > > > > graduation.
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > Best regards,
> >>>> > > > > > Ruilong Huo
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
> >>>> > > > > > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from
> >>>> Roman's
> >>>> > > email,
> >>>> > > > > > >thanks Roman.
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this
> >>>> thread too.
> >>>> > > > Guys
> >>>> > > > > > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > >See:
> >>>> > > > > > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A
> name
> >>>> of the
> >>>> > > > > project
> >>>> > > > > > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a
> >>>> rotating
> >>>> > > chair
> >>>> > > > > > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel
> free
> >>>> to
> >>>> > > ignore
> >>>> > > > > it,
> >>>> > > > > > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected
> up for
> >>>> > > rotation
> >>>> > > > > > every
> >>>> > > > > > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to
> >>>> self-nominate
> >>>> > > > once
> >>>> > > > > > the
> >>>> > > > > > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the
> same
> >>>> person
> >>>> > to
> >>>> > > > > > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is
> >>>> interested in
> >>>> > > > > serving
> >>>> > > > > > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there
> multiple
> >>>> > > candidates
> >>>> > > > > > there
> >>>> > > > > > >will have to be a vote.
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > >Regards,
> >>>> > > > > > >Radar
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <
> rlei@pivotal.io
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > wrote:
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > >> Thanks Roman.
> >>>> > > > > > >>
> >>>> > > > > > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the
> resolution.
> >>>> BTW, we
> >>>> > > would
> >>>> > > > > > need
> >>>> > > > > > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we
> need to
> >>>> > draft
> >>>> > > > the
> >>>> > > > > > >> resolution.
> >>>> > > > > > >>
> >>>> > > > > > >> Regards,
> >>>> > > > > > >> Radar
> >>>> > > > > > >>
> >>>> > > > > > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> >>>> > > > > > roman@shaposhnik.org>
> >>>> > > > > > >> wrote:
> >>>> > > > > > >>
> >>>> > > > > > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <
> >>>> rlei@pivotal.io>
> >>>> > > > wrote:
> >>>> > > > > > >>> > Hi Roman,
> >>>> > > > > > >>> >
> >>>> > > > > > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer
> whether they
> >>>> want
> >>>> > to
> >>>> > > > > > remain
> >>>> > > > > > >>> with
> >>>> > > > > > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC
> members(including
> >>>> two
> >>>> > > > mentors)
> >>>> > > > > > and
> >>>> > > > > > >>> 7
> >>>> > > > > > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with
> HAWQ. [1]
> >>>> The
> >>>> > > total
> >>>> > > > > > >>> committers
> >>>> > > > > > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member
> number
> >>>> 37, is
> >>>> > it
> >>>> > > > good
> >>>> > > > > > >>> enough
> >>>> > > > > > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation
> resolution?
> >>>> > > > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > > > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense
> to me!
> >>>> > > > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > > > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage
> now or
> >>>> do
> >>>> > > update
> >>>> > > > > > after
> >>>> > > > > > >>> graduation?
> >>>> > > > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > > > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to
> draft
> >>>> a
> >>>> > > > > resolution
> >>>> > > > > > >>> similar to:
> >>>> > > > > > >>>
> >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/
> >>>> > ms
> >>>> > > > > > >>> g56982.html
> >>>> > > > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > > > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
> >>>> > > > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > > > >>> Makes sense?
> >>>> > > > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > > > >>> Thanks,
> >>>> > > > > > >>> Roman.
> >>>> > > > > > >>>
> >>>> > > > > > >>
> >>>> > > > > > >>
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Don Bosco Durai <bo...@apache.org>.
Hi Radar
Mine is "Privacera"
Thanks
Bosco
On 6/14/18, 1:08 AM, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
Hi Guys,
I will keep the affiliation topic till next Monday, you can also ping me
your affiliation so it's name can be list on the resolution.
BTW, thanks Roman, Alan and Atri's share.
Regards,
Radar
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:47 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan Gates - Hortonworks.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:37 PM Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm counting the PMC/Committer affiliation, please let me know what's
>> your affiliation if convenience. Thanks.
>>
>> E.g.
>> PMC affiliation
>> Pivotal (22)
>> Oushu (7)
>> Hashdata (2)
>> Amazon(1)
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Radar
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all. Now I'm pretty close to finish drafting the resolution, will
>>> send it out soon.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Radar
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Lili Ma <li...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Radar for your great efforts for preparation for HAWQ graduation!
>>>>
>>>> I'm very glad to see our product having coming to the phase of
>>>> graduation
>>>> discussion, and I believe we are always a team no matter where we work
>>>> at
>>>> now. I hope we can soon graduate HAWQ as a TLP :)
>>>>
>>>> As for chairman, I support Lei Chang too. He initiated the idea of
>>>> putting
>>>> SQL on top of HDFS and lead us through the process of HAWQ Alpha, 1.0
>>>> version, 2.0 version, open source, etc. And he is still working on this
>>>> project actively :)
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Lili Ma
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018-06-04 8:35 GMT-04:00 Lei Chang <ch...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> > Thank you guys for the nomination :-).
>>>> >
>>>> > Great to work with the team on the HAWQ graduation and any future
>>>> issues.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers
>>>> > Lei
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:50 AM, 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > +1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC Chairman.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC
>>>> > > Chairman,
>>>> > > > he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this
>>>> > project
>>>> > > > in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and
>>>> vision.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Best,
>>>> > > > Yi Jin
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > Ruilong,
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ
>>>> > project's
>>>> > > > > initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed
>>>> > > > immensely
>>>> > > > > to the project.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Regards,
>>>> > > > > -=e
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar
>>>> for
>>>> > > pushing
>>>> > > > > > this forward!
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He
>>>> initiated
>>>> > > HAWQ
>>>> > > > > > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to
>>>> > Apache
>>>> > > > > > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to
>>>> make
>>>> > it a
>>>> > > > > > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully
>>>> Apache
>>>> > > > project.
>>>> > > > > > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I
>>>> believe he
>>>> > > > will
>>>> > > > > > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ
>>>> after
>>>> > > > > > graduation.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Best regards,
>>>> > > > > > Ruilong Huo
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from
>>>> Roman's
>>>> > > email,
>>>> > > > > > >thanks Roman.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this
>>>> thread too.
>>>> > > > Guys
>>>> > > > > > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >See:
>>>> > > > > > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name
>>>> of the
>>>> > > > > project
>>>> > > > > > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a
>>>> rotating
>>>> > > chair
>>>> > > > > > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free
>>>> to
>>>> > > ignore
>>>> > > > > it,
>>>> > > > > > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for
>>>> > > rotation
>>>> > > > > > every
>>>> > > > > > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to
>>>> self-nominate
>>>> > > > once
>>>> > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same
>>>> person
>>>> > to
>>>> > > > > > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is
>>>> interested in
>>>> > > > > serving
>>>> > > > > > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple
>>>> > > candidates
>>>> > > > > > there
>>>> > > > > > >will have to be a vote.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >Regards,
>>>> > > > > > >Radar
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rlei@pivotal.io
>>>> >
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >> Thanks Roman.
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution.
>>>> BTW, we
>>>> > > would
>>>> > > > > > need
>>>> > > > > > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to
>>>> > draft
>>>> > > > the
>>>> > > > > > >> resolution.
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >> Regards,
>>>> > > > > > >> Radar
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
>>>> > > > > > roman@shaposhnik.org>
>>>> > > > > > >> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <
>>>> rlei@pivotal.io>
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >>> > Hi Roman,
>>>> > > > > > >>> >
>>>> > > > > > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they
>>>> want
>>>> > to
>>>> > > > > > remain
>>>> > > > > > >>> with
>>>> > > > > > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including
>>>> two
>>>> > > > mentors)
>>>> > > > > > and
>>>> > > > > > >>> 7
>>>> > > > > > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1]
>>>> The
>>>> > > total
>>>> > > > > > >>> committers
>>>> > > > > > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number
>>>> 37, is
>>>> > it
>>>> > > > good
>>>> > > > > > >>> enough
>>>> > > > > > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or
>>>> do
>>>> > > update
>>>> > > > > > after
>>>> > > > > > >>> graduation?
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft
>>>> a
>>>> > > > > resolution
>>>> > > > > > >>> similar to:
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/
>>>> > ms
>>>> > > > > > >>> g56982.html
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> Makes sense?
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> Thanks,
>>>> > > > > > >>> Roman.
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>.
Hi Guys,
I will keep the affiliation topic till next Monday, you can also ping me
your affiliation so it's name can be list on the resolution.
BTW, thanks Roman, Alan and Atri's share.
Regards,
Radar
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:47 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan Gates - Hortonworks.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:37 PM Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm counting the PMC/Committer affiliation, please let me know what's
>> your affiliation if convenience. Thanks.
>>
>> E.g.
>> PMC affiliation
>> Pivotal (22)
>> Oushu (7)
>> Hashdata (2)
>> Amazon(1)
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Radar
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all. Now I'm pretty close to finish drafting the resolution, will
>>> send it out soon.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Radar
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Lili Ma <li...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Radar for your great efforts for preparation for HAWQ graduation!
>>>>
>>>> I'm very glad to see our product having coming to the phase of
>>>> graduation
>>>> discussion, and I believe we are always a team no matter where we work
>>>> at
>>>> now. I hope we can soon graduate HAWQ as a TLP :)
>>>>
>>>> As for chairman, I support Lei Chang too. He initiated the idea of
>>>> putting
>>>> SQL on top of HDFS and lead us through the process of HAWQ Alpha, 1.0
>>>> version, 2.0 version, open source, etc. And he is still working on this
>>>> project actively :)
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Lili Ma
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018-06-04 8:35 GMT-04:00 Lei Chang <ch...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> > Thank you guys for the nomination :-).
>>>> >
>>>> > Great to work with the team on the HAWQ graduation and any future
>>>> issues.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers
>>>> > Lei
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:50 AM, 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > +1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC Chairman.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC
>>>> > > Chairman,
>>>> > > > he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this
>>>> > project
>>>> > > > in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and
>>>> vision.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Best,
>>>> > > > Yi Jin
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > Ruilong,
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ
>>>> > project's
>>>> > > > > initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed
>>>> > > > immensely
>>>> > > > > to the project.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Regards,
>>>> > > > > -=e
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar
>>>> for
>>>> > > pushing
>>>> > > > > > this forward!
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He
>>>> initiated
>>>> > > HAWQ
>>>> > > > > > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to
>>>> > Apache
>>>> > > > > > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to
>>>> make
>>>> > it a
>>>> > > > > > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully
>>>> Apache
>>>> > > > project.
>>>> > > > > > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I
>>>> believe he
>>>> > > > will
>>>> > > > > > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ
>>>> after
>>>> > > > > > graduation.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Best regards,
>>>> > > > > > Ruilong Huo
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from
>>>> Roman's
>>>> > > email,
>>>> > > > > > >thanks Roman.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this
>>>> thread too.
>>>> > > > Guys
>>>> > > > > > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >See:
>>>> > > > > > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name
>>>> of the
>>>> > > > > project
>>>> > > > > > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a
>>>> rotating
>>>> > > chair
>>>> > > > > > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free
>>>> to
>>>> > > ignore
>>>> > > > > it,
>>>> > > > > > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for
>>>> > > rotation
>>>> > > > > > every
>>>> > > > > > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to
>>>> self-nominate
>>>> > > > once
>>>> > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same
>>>> person
>>>> > to
>>>> > > > > > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is
>>>> interested in
>>>> > > > > serving
>>>> > > > > > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple
>>>> > > candidates
>>>> > > > > > there
>>>> > > > > > >will have to be a vote.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >Regards,
>>>> > > > > > >Radar
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rlei@pivotal.io
>>>> >
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >> Thanks Roman.
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution.
>>>> BTW, we
>>>> > > would
>>>> > > > > > need
>>>> > > > > > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to
>>>> > draft
>>>> > > > the
>>>> > > > > > >> resolution.
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >> Regards,
>>>> > > > > > >> Radar
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
>>>> > > > > > roman@shaposhnik.org>
>>>> > > > > > >> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <
>>>> rlei@pivotal.io>
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >>> > Hi Roman,
>>>> > > > > > >>> >
>>>> > > > > > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they
>>>> want
>>>> > to
>>>> > > > > > remain
>>>> > > > > > >>> with
>>>> > > > > > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including
>>>> two
>>>> > > > mentors)
>>>> > > > > > and
>>>> > > > > > >>> 7
>>>> > > > > > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1]
>>>> The
>>>> > > total
>>>> > > > > > >>> committers
>>>> > > > > > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number
>>>> 37, is
>>>> > it
>>>> > > > good
>>>> > > > > > >>> enough
>>>> > > > > > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or
>>>> do
>>>> > > update
>>>> > > > > > after
>>>> > > > > > >>> graduation?
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft
>>>> a
>>>> > > > > resolution
>>>> > > > > > >>> similar to:
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/
>>>> > ms
>>>> > > > > > >>> g56982.html
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> Makes sense?
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>> Thanks,
>>>> > > > > > >>> Roman.
>>>> > > > > > >>>
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>.
Alan Gates - Hortonworks.
Alan.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:37 PM Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm counting the PMC/Committer affiliation, please let me know what's your
> affiliation if convenience. Thanks.
>
> E.g.
> PMC affiliation
> Pivotal (22)
> Oushu (7)
> Hashdata (2)
> Amazon(1)
>
>
> Regards,
> Radar
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
>> Thanks all. Now I'm pretty close to finish drafting the resolution, will
>> send it out soon.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Radar
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Lili Ma <li...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Radar for your great efforts for preparation for HAWQ graduation!
>>>
>>> I'm very glad to see our product having coming to the phase of graduation
>>> discussion, and I believe we are always a team no matter where we work at
>>> now. I hope we can soon graduate HAWQ as a TLP :)
>>>
>>> As for chairman, I support Lei Chang too. He initiated the idea of
>>> putting
>>> SQL on top of HDFS and lead us through the process of HAWQ Alpha, 1.0
>>> version, 2.0 version, open source, etc. And he is still working on this
>>> project actively :)
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Lili Ma
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-06-04 8:35 GMT-04:00 Lei Chang <ch...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> > Thank you guys for the nomination :-).
>>> >
>>> > Great to work with the team on the HAWQ graduation and any future
>>> issues.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> > Lei
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:50 AM, 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > +1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC Chairman.
>>> > >
>>> > > 2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
>>> > >
>>> > > > +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC
>>> > > Chairman,
>>> > > > he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this
>>> > project
>>> > > > in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and
>>> vision.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Best,
>>> > > > Yi Jin
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Ruilong,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ
>>> > project's
>>> > > > > initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed
>>> > > > immensely
>>> > > > > to the project.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Regards,
>>> > > > > -=e
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for
>>> > > pushing
>>> > > > > > this forward!
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He
>>> initiated
>>> > > HAWQ
>>> > > > > > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to
>>> > Apache
>>> > > > > > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to
>>> make
>>> > it a
>>> > > > > > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache
>>> > > > project.
>>> > > > > > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I
>>> believe he
>>> > > > will
>>> > > > > > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ
>>> after
>>> > > > > > graduation.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Best regards,
>>> > > > > > Ruilong Huo
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>> > > > > > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's
>>> > > email,
>>> > > > > > >thanks Roman.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread
>>> too.
>>> > > > Guys
>>> > > > > > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >See:
>>> > > > > > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name
>>> of the
>>> > > > > project
>>> > > > > > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a
>>> rotating
>>> > > chair
>>> > > > > > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to
>>> > > ignore
>>> > > > > it,
>>> > > > > > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for
>>> > > rotation
>>> > > > > > every
>>> > > > > > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to
>>> self-nominate
>>> > > > once
>>> > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same
>>> person
>>> > to
>>> > > > > > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is
>>> interested in
>>> > > > > serving
>>> > > > > > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple
>>> > > candidates
>>> > > > > > there
>>> > > > > > >will have to be a vote.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >Regards,
>>> > > > > > >Radar
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >> Thanks Roman.
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW,
>>> we
>>> > > would
>>> > > > > > need
>>> > > > > > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to
>>> > draft
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > > > >> resolution.
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> Regards,
>>> > > > > > >> Radar
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
>>> > > > > > roman@shaposhnik.org>
>>> > > > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <
>>> rlei@pivotal.io>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > >>> > Hi Roman,
>>> > > > > > >>> >
>>> > > > > > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they
>>> want
>>> > to
>>> > > > > > remain
>>> > > > > > >>> with
>>> > > > > > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including
>>> two
>>> > > > mentors)
>>> > > > > > and
>>> > > > > > >>> 7
>>> > > > > > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1]
>>> The
>>> > > total
>>> > > > > > >>> committers
>>> > > > > > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37,
>>> is
>>> > it
>>> > > > good
>>> > > > > > >>> enough
>>> > > > > > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do
>>> > > update
>>> > > > > > after
>>> > > > > > >>> graduation?
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
>>> > > > > resolution
>>> > > > > > >>> similar to:
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/
>>> > ms
>>> > > > > > >>> g56982.html
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> Makes sense?
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> Thanks,
>>> > > > > > >>> Roman.
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
Roman Shaposhnik - ZEDEDA Inc.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:36 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm counting the PMC/Committer affiliation, please let me know what's your
> affiliation if convenience. Thanks.
>
> E.g.
> PMC affiliation
> Pivotal (22)
> Oushu (7)
> Hashdata (2)
> Amazon(1)
>
>
> Regards,
> Radar
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks all. Now I'm pretty close to finish drafting the resolution, will
>> send it out soon.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Radar
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Lili Ma <li...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Radar for your great efforts for preparation for HAWQ graduation!
>>>
>>> I'm very glad to see our product having coming to the phase of graduation
>>> discussion, and I believe we are always a team no matter where we work at
>>> now. I hope we can soon graduate HAWQ as a TLP :)
>>>
>>> As for chairman, I support Lei Chang too. He initiated the idea of
>>> putting
>>> SQL on top of HDFS and lead us through the process of HAWQ Alpha, 1.0
>>> version, 2.0 version, open source, etc. And he is still working on this
>>> project actively :)
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Lili Ma
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-06-04 8:35 GMT-04:00 Lei Chang <ch...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> > Thank you guys for the nomination :-).
>>> >
>>> > Great to work with the team on the HAWQ graduation and any future
>>> > issues.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> > Lei
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:50 AM, 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > +1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC Chairman.
>>> > >
>>> > > 2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
>>> > >
>>> > > > +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC
>>> > > Chairman,
>>> > > > he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this
>>> > project
>>> > > > in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and
>>> > > > vision.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Best,
>>> > > > Yi Jin
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Ruilong,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ
>>> > project's
>>> > > > > initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed
>>> > > > immensely
>>> > > > > to the project.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Regards,
>>> > > > > -=e
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for
>>> > > pushing
>>> > > > > > this forward!
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He
>>> > > > > > initiated
>>> > > HAWQ
>>> > > > > > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to
>>> > Apache
>>> > > > > > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to
>>> > > > > > make
>>> > it a
>>> > > > > > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache
>>> > > > project.
>>> > > > > > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I
>>> > > > > > believe he
>>> > > > will
>>> > > > > > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ
>>> > > > > > after
>>> > > > > > graduation.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Best regards,
>>> > > > > > Ruilong Huo
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>> > > > > > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's
>>> > > email,
>>> > > > > > >thanks Roman.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread
>>> > > > > > > too.
>>> > > > Guys
>>> > > > > > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >See:
>>> > > > > > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of
>>> > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > project
>>> > > > > > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a
>>> > > > > > > rotating
>>> > > chair
>>> > > > > > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to
>>> > > ignore
>>> > > > > it,
>>> > > > > > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for
>>> > > rotation
>>> > > > > > every
>>> > > > > > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to
>>> > > > > > > self-nominate
>>> > > > once
>>> > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same
>>> > > > > > > person
>>> > to
>>> > > > > > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is
>>> > > > > > > interested in
>>> > > > > serving
>>> > > > > > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple
>>> > > candidates
>>> > > > > > there
>>> > > > > > >will have to be a vote.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >Regards,
>>> > > > > > >Radar
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >> Thanks Roman.
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW,
>>> > > > > > >> we
>>> > > would
>>> > > > > > need
>>> > > > > > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to
>>> > draft
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > > > >> resolution.
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> Regards,
>>> > > > > > >> Radar
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
>>> > > > > > roman@shaposhnik.org>
>>> > > > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei
>>> > > > > > >>> <rl...@pivotal.io>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > >>> > Hi Roman,
>>> > > > > > >>> >
>>> > > > > > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they
>>> > > > > > >>> > want
>>> > to
>>> > > > > > remain
>>> > > > > > >>> with
>>> > > > > > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including
>>> > > > > > >>> > two
>>> > > > mentors)
>>> > > > > > and
>>> > > > > > >>> 7
>>> > > > > > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1]
>>> > > > > > >>> > The
>>> > > total
>>> > > > > > >>> committers
>>> > > > > > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37,
>>> > > > > > >>> > is
>>> > it
>>> > > > good
>>> > > > > > >>> enough
>>> > > > > > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do
>>> > > update
>>> > > > > > after
>>> > > > > > >>> graduation?
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
>>> > > > > resolution
>>> > > > > > >>> similar to:
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/
>>> > ms
>>> > > > > > >>> g56982.html
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> Makes sense?
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>> Thanks,
>>> > > > > > >>> Roman.
>>> > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>
>>
>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>.
Hi!
I'm counting the PMC/Committer affiliation, please let me know what's your
affiliation if convenience. Thanks.
E.g.
PMC affiliation
Pivotal (22)
Oushu (7)
Hashdata (2)
Amazon(1)
Regards,
Radar
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Thanks all. Now I'm pretty close to finish drafting the resolution, will
> send it out soon.
>
> Regards,
> Radar
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Lili Ma <li...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Radar for your great efforts for preparation for HAWQ graduation!
>>
>> I'm very glad to see our product having coming to the phase of graduation
>> discussion, and I believe we are always a team no matter where we work at
>> now. I hope we can soon graduate HAWQ as a TLP :)
>>
>> As for chairman, I support Lei Chang too. He initiated the idea of putting
>> SQL on top of HDFS and lead us through the process of HAWQ Alpha, 1.0
>> version, 2.0 version, open source, etc. And he is still working on this
>> project actively :)
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Lili Ma
>>
>>
>> 2018-06-04 8:35 GMT-04:00 Lei Chang <ch...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > Thank you guys for the nomination :-).
>> >
>> > Great to work with the team on the HAWQ graduation and any future
>> issues.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Lei
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:50 AM, 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > +1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC Chairman.
>> > >
>> > > 2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
>> > >
>> > > > +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC
>> > > Chairman,
>> > > > he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this
>> > project
>> > > > in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and
>> vision.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best,
>> > > > Yi Jin
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Ruilong,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ
>> > project's
>> > > > > initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed
>> > > > immensely
>> > > > > to the project.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > -=e
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for
>> > > pushing
>> > > > > > this forward!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He
>> initiated
>> > > HAWQ
>> > > > > > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to
>> > Apache
>> > > > > > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make
>> > it a
>> > > > > > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache
>> > > > project.
>> > > > > > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I
>> believe he
>> > > > will
>> > > > > > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ
>> after
>> > > > > > graduation.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Best regards,
>> > > > > > Ruilong Huo
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> > > > > > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's
>> > > email,
>> > > > > > >thanks Roman.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread
>> too.
>> > > > Guys
>> > > > > > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >See:
>> > > > > > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of
>> the
>> > > > > project
>> > > > > > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a
>> rotating
>> > > chair
>> > > > > > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to
>> > > ignore
>> > > > > it,
>> > > > > > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for
>> > > rotation
>> > > > > > every
>> > > > > > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to
>> self-nominate
>> > > > once
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same
>> person
>> > to
>> > > > > > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is
>> interested in
>> > > > > serving
>> > > > > > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple
>> > > candidates
>> > > > > > there
>> > > > > > >will have to be a vote.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Regards,
>> > > > > > >Radar
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> Thanks Roman.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW,
>> we
>> > > would
>> > > > > > need
>> > > > > > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to
>> > draft
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > >> resolution.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> Regards,
>> > > > > > >> Radar
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
>> > > > > > roman@shaposhnik.org>
>> > > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <
>> rlei@pivotal.io>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >>> > Hi Roman,
>> > > > > > >>> >
>> > > > > > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they
>> want
>> > to
>> > > > > > remain
>> > > > > > >>> with
>> > > > > > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two
>> > > > mentors)
>> > > > > > and
>> > > > > > >>> 7
>> > > > > > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1]
>> The
>> > > total
>> > > > > > >>> committers
>> > > > > > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37,
>> is
>> > it
>> > > > good
>> > > > > > >>> enough
>> > > > > > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do
>> > > update
>> > > > > > after
>> > > > > > >>> graduation?
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
>> > > > > resolution
>> > > > > > >>> similar to:
>> > > > > > >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/
>> general@incubator.apache.org/
>> > ms
>> > > > > > >>> g56982.html
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >>> Makes sense?
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >>> Thanks,
>> > > > > > >>> Roman.
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>.
Thanks all. Now I'm pretty close to finish drafting the resolution, will
send it out soon.
Regards,
Radar
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Lili Ma <li...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks Radar for your great efforts for preparation for HAWQ graduation!
>
> I'm very glad to see our product having coming to the phase of graduation
> discussion, and I believe we are always a team no matter where we work at
> now. I hope we can soon graduate HAWQ as a TLP :)
>
> As for chairman, I support Lei Chang too. He initiated the idea of putting
> SQL on top of HDFS and lead us through the process of HAWQ Alpha, 1.0
> version, 2.0 version, open source, etc. And he is still working on this
> project actively :)
>
> Best Regards,
> Lili Ma
>
>
> 2018-06-04 8:35 GMT-04:00 Lei Chang <ch...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Thank you guys for the nomination :-).
> >
> > Great to work with the team on the HAWQ graduation and any future issues.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Lei
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:50 AM, 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC Chairman.
> > >
> > > 2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC
> > > Chairman,
> > > > he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this
> > project
> > > > in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and
> vision.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Yi Jin
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ruilong,
> > > > >
> > > > > I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ
> > project's
> > > > > initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed
> > > > immensely
> > > > > to the project.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > -=e
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for
> > > pushing
> > > > > > this forward!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated
> > > HAWQ
> > > > > > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to
> > Apache
> > > > > > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make
> > it a
> > > > > > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache
> > > > project.
> > > > > > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe
> he
> > > > will
> > > > > > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ
> after
> > > > > > graduation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Ruilong Huo
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > > > > > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's
> > > email,
> > > > > > >thanks Roman.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread
> too.
> > > > Guys
> > > > > > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >See:
> > > > > > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of
> the
> > > > > project
> > > > > > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating
> > > chair
> > > > > > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to
> > > ignore
> > > > > it,
> > > > > > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for
> > > rotation
> > > > > > every
> > > > > > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to
> self-nominate
> > > > once
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same
> person
> > to
> > > > > > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested
> in
> > > > > serving
> > > > > > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple
> > > candidates
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > >will have to be a vote.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Regards,
> > > > > > >Radar
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Thanks Roman.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we
> > > would
> > > > > > need
> > > > > > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to
> > draft
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> resolution.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > > >> Radar
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> > > > > > roman@shaposhnik.org>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rlei@pivotal.io
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>> > Hi Roman,
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they
> want
> > to
> > > > > > remain
> > > > > > >>> with
> > > > > > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two
> > > > mentors)
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >>> 7
> > > > > > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The
> > > total
> > > > > > >>> committers
> > > > > > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is
> > it
> > > > good
> > > > > > >>> enough
> > > > > > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do
> > > update
> > > > > > after
> > > > > > >>> graduation?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
> > > > > resolution
> > > > > > >>> similar to:
> > > > > > >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/
> general@incubator.apache.org/
> > ms
> > > > > > >>> g56982.html
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Makes sense?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>> Roman.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Lili Ma <li...@apache.org>.
Thanks Radar for your great efforts for preparation for HAWQ graduation!
I'm very glad to see our product having coming to the phase of graduation
discussion, and I believe we are always a team no matter where we work at
now. I hope we can soon graduate HAWQ as a TLP :)
As for chairman, I support Lei Chang too. He initiated the idea of putting
SQL on top of HDFS and lead us through the process of HAWQ Alpha, 1.0
version, 2.0 version, open source, etc. And he is still working on this
project actively :)
Best Regards,
Lili Ma
2018-06-04 8:35 GMT-04:00 Lei Chang <ch...@gmail.com>:
> Thank you guys for the nomination :-).
>
> Great to work with the team on the HAWQ graduation and any future issues.
>
> Cheers
> Lei
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:50 AM, 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC Chairman.
> >
> > 2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC
> > Chairman,
> > > he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this
> project
> > > in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and vision.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Yi Jin
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ruilong,
> > > >
> > > > I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ
> project's
> > > > initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed
> > > immensely
> > > > to the project.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > -=e
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for
> > pushing
> > > > > this forward!
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated
> > HAWQ
> > > > > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to
> Apache
> > > > > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make
> it a
> > > > > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache
> > > project.
> > > > > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe he
> > > will
> > > > > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ after
> > > > > graduation.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Ruilong Huo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > > > > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's
> > email,
> > > > > >thanks Roman.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too.
> > > Guys
> > > > > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >See:
> > > > > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the
> > > > project
> > > > > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating
> > chair
> > > > > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to
> > ignore
> > > > it,
> > > > > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for
> > rotation
> > > > > every
> > > > > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate
> > > once
> > > > > the
> > > > > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person
> to
> > > > > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in
> > > > serving
> > > > > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple
> > candidates
> > > > > there
> > > > > >will have to be a vote.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Regards,
> > > > > >Radar
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Thanks Roman.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we
> > would
> > > > > need
> > > > > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to
> draft
> > > the
> > > > > >> resolution.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > >> Radar
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> > > > > roman@shaposhnik.org>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>> > Hi Roman,
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want
> to
> > > > > remain
> > > > > >>> with
> > > > > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two
> > > mentors)
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>> 7
> > > > > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The
> > total
> > > > > >>> committers
> > > > > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is
> it
> > > good
> > > > > >>> enough
> > > > > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do
> > update
> > > > > after
> > > > > >>> graduation?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
> > > > resolution
> > > > > >>> similar to:
> > > > > >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/
> ms
> > > > > >>> g56982.html
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Makes sense?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>> Roman.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Lei Chang <ch...@gmail.com>.
Thank you guys for the nomination :-).
Great to work with the team on the HAWQ graduation and any future issues.
Cheers
Lei
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:50 AM, 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC Chairman.
>
> 2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
>
> > +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC
> Chairman,
> > he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this project
> > in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and vision.
> >
> > Best,
> > Yi Jin
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Ruilong,
> > >
> > > I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ project's
> > > initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed
> > immensely
> > > to the project.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > -=e
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for
> pushing
> > > > this forward!
> > > >
> > > > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated
> HAWQ
> > > > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to Apache
> > > > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make it a
> > > > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache
> > project.
> > > > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe he
> > will
> > > > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ after
> > > > graduation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Ruilong Huo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > > > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's
> email,
> > > > >thanks Roman.
> > > > >
> > > > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too.
> > Guys
> > > > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > >See:
> > > > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the
> > > project
> > > > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
> > > > >
> > > > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating
> chair
> > > > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to
> ignore
> > > it,
> > > > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for
> rotation
> > > > every
> > > > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate
> > once
> > > > the
> > > > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
> > > > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in
> > > serving
> > > > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple
> candidates
> > > > there
> > > > >will have to be a vote.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards,
> > > > >Radar
> > > > >
> > > > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Thanks Roman.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we
> would
> > > > need
> > > > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft
> > the
> > > > >> resolution.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards,
> > > > >> Radar
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> > > > roman@shaposhnik.org>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>> > Hi Roman,
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to
> > > > remain
> > > > >>> with
> > > > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two
> > mentors)
> > > > and
> > > > >>> 7
> > > > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The
> total
> > > > >>> committers
> > > > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it
> > good
> > > > >>> enough
> > > > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do
> update
> > > > after
> > > > >>> graduation?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
> > > resolution
> > > > >>> similar to:
> > > > >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/ms
> > > > >>> g56982.html
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Makes sense?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > >>> Roman.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Greg Chase <gc...@pivotal.io>.
+1 to Lei
This email encrypted by tiny buttons & fat thumbs, beta voice recognition, and autocorrect on my iPhone.
> On Jun 1, 2018, at 8:50 AM, 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> +1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC Chairman.
>
> 2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
>
>> +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC Chairman,
>> he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this project
>> in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and vision.
>>
>> Best,
>> Yi Jin
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ruilong,
>>>
>>> I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ project's
>>> initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed
>> immensely
>>> to the project.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -=e
>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for pushing
>>>> this forward!
>>>>
>>>> I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated HAWQ
>>>> project several years ago, led the development, brought it to Apache
>>>> incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make it a
>>>> world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache
>> project.
>>>> There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe he
>> will
>>>> continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ after
>>>> graduation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Ruilong Huo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>>>> Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's email,
>>>>> thanks Roman.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too.
>> Guys
>>>>> please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> See:
>>>>> At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the
>>> project
>>>>> 2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
>>>>>
>>>>> On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating chair
>>>>> policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore
>>> it,
>>>>> but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation
>>>> every
>>>>> year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate
>> once
>>>> the
>>>>> year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
>>>>> actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in
>>> serving
>>>>> as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates
>>>> there
>>>>> will have to be a vote.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Radar
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Roman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we would
>>>> need
>>>>>> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft
>> the
>>>>>> resolution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Radar
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
>>>> roman@shaposhnik.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to
>>>> remain
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two
>> mentors)
>>>> and
>>>>>>> 7
>>>>>>>> committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
>>>>>>> committers
>>>>>>>> number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it
>> good
>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>> to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update
>>>> after
>>>>>>> graduation?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
>>> resolution
>>>>>>> similar to:
>>>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/ms
>>>>>>> g56982.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Makes sense?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Roman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by 陶征霖 <zt...@apache.org>.
+1 to Lei. He is worthy of the title of Apache HAWQ PMC Chairman.
2018-06-01 9:44 GMT+08:00 Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>:
> +1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC Chairman,
> he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this project
> in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and vision.
>
> Best,
> Yi Jin
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Ruilong,
> >
> > I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ project's
> > initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed
> immensely
> > to the project.
> >
> > Regards,
> > -=e
> >
> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for pushing
> > > this forward!
> > >
> > > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated HAWQ
> > > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to Apache
> > > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make it a
> > > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache
> project.
> > > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe he
> will
> > > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ after
> > > graduation.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Ruilong Huo
> > >
> > >
> > > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's email,
> > > >thanks Roman.
> > > >
> > > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too.
> Guys
> > > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
> > > >
> > > >See:
> > > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the
> > project
> > > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
> > > >
> > > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating chair
> > > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore
> > it,
> > > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation
> > > every
> > > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate
> once
> > > the
> > > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
> > > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in
> > serving
> > > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates
> > > there
> > > >will have to be a vote.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >Radar
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks Roman.
> > > >>
> > > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we would
> > > need
> > > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft
> the
> > > >> resolution.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> Radar
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> > > roman@shaposhnik.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
> > > >>> > Hi Roman,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to
> > > remain
> > > >>> with
> > > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two
> mentors)
> > > and
> > > >>> 7
> > > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
> > > >>> committers
> > > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it
> good
> > > >>> enough
> > > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update
> > > after
> > > >>> graduation?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
> > resolution
> > > >>> similar to:
> > > >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/ms
> > > >>> g56982.html
> > > >>>
> > > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Makes sense?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> Roman.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>.
+1 to Lei, I fully support Lei Change as Apache HAWQ project PMC Chairman,
he deserves this role, not only outstanding contributions to this project
in a very long period till today also his solid leadership and vision.
Best,
Yi Jin
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:17 AM, Ed Espino <es...@apache.org> wrote:
> Ruilong,
>
> I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ project's
> initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed immensely
> to the project.
>
> Regards,
> -=e
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for pushing
> > this forward!
> >
> > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated HAWQ
> > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to Apache
> > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make it a
> > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache project.
> > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe he will
> > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ after
> > graduation.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ruilong Huo
> >
> >
> > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's email,
> > >thanks Roman.
> > >
> > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too. Guys
> > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
> > >
> > >See:
> > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the
> project
> > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
> > >
> > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating chair
> > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore
> it,
> > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation
> > every
> > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate once
> > the
> > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
> > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in
> serving
> > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates
> > there
> > >will have to be a vote.
> > >
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Radar
> > >
> > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Roman.
> > >>
> > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we would
> > need
> > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft the
> > >> resolution.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Radar
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> > roman@shaposhnik.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > >>> > Hi Roman,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to
> > remain
> > >>> with
> > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two mentors)
> > and
> > >>> 7
> > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
> > >>> committers
> > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it good
> > >>> enough
> > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
> > >>>
> > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
> > >>>
> > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update
> > after
> > >>> graduation?
> > >>>
> > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
> resolution
> > >>> similar to:
> > >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/ms
> > >>> g56982.html
> > >>>
> > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
> > >>>
> > >>> Makes sense?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Roman.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
Re:Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by 王春玲 <wa...@126.com>.
+1 to Lei! His great leadership and contribution to Apache HAWQ project are obvious to us.
At 2018-06-01 08:15:14, "Roman Shaposhnik" <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>+1 to Lei!
>
>Thanks,
>Roman.
>
>On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:12 PM, xsheng <xs...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Glad to see so many people contributing to the community. And I believe Lei
>> Chang is one of the most passionate about Apache HAWQ project. He will make
>> HAWQ great again after graduation. I also give my full support for him.
>>
>> 2018-06-01 1:17 GMT+08:00 Ed Espino <es...@apache.org>:
>>>
>>> Ruilong,
>>>
>>> I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ project's
>>> initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed immensely
>>> to the project.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -=e
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for pushing
>>> > this forward!
>>> >
>>> > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated HAWQ
>>> > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to Apache
>>> > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make it a
>>> > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache project.
>>> > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe he will
>>> > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ after
>>> > graduation.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Ruilong Huo
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>> > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's email,
>>> > >thanks Roman.
>>> > >
>>> > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too. Guys
>>> > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
>>> > >
>>> > >See:
>>> > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the
>>> > > project
>>> > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
>>> > >
>>> > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating chair
>>> > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore
>>> > > it,
>>> > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation
>>> > every
>>> > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate once
>>> > the
>>> > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
>>> > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in
>>> > > serving
>>> > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates
>>> > there
>>> > >will have to be a vote.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Regards,
>>> > >Radar
>>> > >
>>> > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Thanks Roman.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we would
>>> > need
>>> > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft the
>>> > >> resolution.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Regards,
>>> > >> Radar
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
>>> > roman@shaposhnik.org>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>> > >>> > Hi Roman,
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to
>>> > remain
>>> > >>> with
>>> > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two
>>> > >>> > mentors)
>>> > and
>>> > >>> 7
>>> > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
>>> > >>> committers
>>> > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it
>>> > >>> > good
>>> > >>> enough
>>> > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update
>>> > after
>>> > >>> graduation?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
>>> > >>> resolution
>>> > >>> similar to:
>>> > >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/ms
>>> > >>> g56982.html
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Makes sense?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Thanks,
>>> > >>> Roman.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>
>>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
+1 to Lei!
Thanks,
Roman.
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:12 PM, xsheng <xs...@apache.org> wrote:
> Glad to see so many people contributing to the community. And I believe Lei
> Chang is one of the most passionate about Apache HAWQ project. He will make
> HAWQ great again after graduation. I also give my full support for him.
>
> 2018-06-01 1:17 GMT+08:00 Ed Espino <es...@apache.org>:
>>
>> Ruilong,
>>
>> I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ project's
>> initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed immensely
>> to the project.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -=e
>>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for pushing
>> > this forward!
>> >
>> > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated HAWQ
>> > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to Apache
>> > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make it a
>> > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache project.
>> > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe he will
>> > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ after
>> > graduation.
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Ruilong Huo
>> >
>> >
>> > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's email,
>> > >thanks Roman.
>> > >
>> > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too. Guys
>> > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
>> > >
>> > >See:
>> > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the
>> > > project
>> > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
>> > >
>> > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating chair
>> > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore
>> > > it,
>> > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation
>> > every
>> > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate once
>> > the
>> > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
>> > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in
>> > > serving
>> > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates
>> > there
>> > >will have to be a vote.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Regards,
>> > >Radar
>> > >
>> > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Thanks Roman.
>> > >>
>> > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we would
>> > need
>> > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft the
>> > >> resolution.
>> > >>
>> > >> Regards,
>> > >> Radar
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
>> > roman@shaposhnik.org>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> > >>> > Hi Roman,
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to
>> > remain
>> > >>> with
>> > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two
>> > >>> > mentors)
>> > and
>> > >>> 7
>> > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
>> > >>> committers
>> > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it
>> > >>> > good
>> > >>> enough
>> > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update
>> > after
>> > >>> graduation?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
>> > >>> resolution
>> > >>> similar to:
>> > >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/ms
>> > >>> g56982.html
>> > >>>
>> > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Makes sense?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks,
>> > >>> Roman.
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>
>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by xsheng <xs...@apache.org>.
Glad to see so many people contributing to the community. And I believe Lei
Chang is one of the most passionate about Apache HAWQ project. He will make
HAWQ great again after graduation. I also give my full support for him.
2018-06-01 1:17 GMT+08:00 Ed Espino <es...@apache.org>:
> Ruilong,
>
> I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ project's
> initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed immensely
> to the project.
>
> Regards,
> -=e
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for pushing
> > this forward!
> >
> > I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated HAWQ
> > project several years ago, led the development, brought it to Apache
> > incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make it a
> > world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache project.
> > There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe he will
> > continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ after
> > graduation.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ruilong Huo
> >
> >
> > At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's email,
> > >thanks Roman.
> > >
> > >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too. Guys
> > >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
> > >
> > >See:
> > >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the
> project
> > >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
> > >
> > >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating chair
> > >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore
> it,
> > >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation
> > every
> > >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate once
> > the
> > >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
> > >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in
> serving
> > >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates
> > there
> > >will have to be a vote.
> > >
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Radar
> > >
> > >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Roman.
> > >>
> > >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we would
> > need
> > >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft the
> > >> resolution.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Radar
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> > roman@shaposhnik.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > >>> > Hi Roman,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to
> > remain
> > >>> with
> > >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two mentors)
> > and
> > >>> 7
> > >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
> > >>> committers
> > >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it good
> > >>> enough
> > >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
> > >>>
> > >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
> > >>>
> > >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update
> > after
> > >>> graduation?
> > >>>
> > >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a
> resolution
> > >>> similar to:
> > >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/ms
> > >>> g56982.html
> > >>>
> > >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
> > >>>
> > >>> Makes sense?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Roman.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Ed Espino <es...@apache.org>.
Ruilong,
I also give my full support for Lei Chang as the Apache HAWQ project's
initial PMC Chairman. His leadership and vision have contributed immensely
to the project.
Regards,
-=e
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for pushing
> this forward!
>
> I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated HAWQ
> project several years ago, led the development, brought it to Apache
> incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make it a
> world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache project.
> There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe he will
> continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ after
> graduation.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Ruilong Huo
>
>
> At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's email,
> >thanks Roman.
> >
> >I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too. Guys
> >please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
> >
> >See:
> >At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the project
> >2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
> >
> >On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating chair
> >policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore it,
> >but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation
> every
> >year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate once
> the
> >year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
> >actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in serving
> >as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates
> there
> >will have to be a vote.
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >Radar
> >
> >On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Roman.
> >>
> >> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we would
> need
> >> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft the
> >> resolution.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Radar
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> roman@shaposhnik.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >>> > Hi Roman,
> >>> >
> >>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to
> remain
> >>> with
> >>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two mentors)
> and
> >>> 7
> >>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
> >>> committers
> >>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it good
> >>> enough
> >>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
> >>>
> >>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
> >>>
> >>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update
> after
> >>> graduation?
> >>>
> >>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a resolution
> >>> similar to:
> >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/ms
> >>> g56982.html
> >>>
> >>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
> >>>
> >>> Makes sense?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Roman.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Ruilong Huo <hu...@apache.org>.
Great progress towards Apache HAWQ graduation! Thanks Radar for pushing this forward!
I would like to nominate Lei Chang as the PMC Chair. He initiated HAWQ project several years ago, led the development, brought it to Apache incubation, and has always been active in HAWQ community to make it a world-leading big data product as well as a successfully Apache project. There is no doubt that he is perfect for the role. And I believe he will continue to share his insights and go even further with HAWQ after graduation.
Best regards,
Ruilong Huo
At 2018-05-31 15:40:42, "Radar Lei" <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's email,
>thanks Roman.
>
>I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too. Guys
>please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
>
>See:
>At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the project
>2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
>
>On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating chair
>policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore it,
>but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation every
>year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate once the
>year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
>actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in serving
>as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates there
>will have to be a vote.
>
>
>Regards,
>Radar
>
>On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Roman.
>>
>> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we would need
>> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft the
>> resolution.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Radar
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>> > Hi Roman,
>>> >
>>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to remain
>>> with
>>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two mentors) and
>>> 7
>>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
>>> committers
>>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it good
>>> enough
>>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>>>
>>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>>>
>>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update after
>>> graduation?
>>>
>>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a resolution
>>> similar to:
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/ms
>>> g56982.html
>>>
>>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>>>
>>> Makes sense?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roman.
>>>
>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>.
Just find some good material for nominating chair from Roman's email,
thanks Roman.
I think we can follow this to nominate a Chair in this thread too. Guys
please help to nominate or self-nominate. Thanks a lot.
See:
At the very minimum your resolution will contain: 1. A name of the project
2. A list of proposed PMC 3. A proposed PMC chair
On #3 I typically recommend podlings I mento to setup a rotating chair
policy. This is, in no way, an ASF requirement so feel free to ignore it,
but it worked well before. The chair will be expected up for rotation every
year. It will be more that ok for the same person to self-nominate once the
year is up -- but at the same time it'll be up to the same person to
actually kick off a thread asking if anybody else is interested in serving
as a chair for the next year. Of course, if there multiple candidates there
will have to be a vote.
Regards,
Radar
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Thanks Roman.
>
> This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we would need
> to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft the
> resolution.
>
> Regards,
> Radar
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> > Hi Roman,
>> >
>> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to remain
>> with
>> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two mentors) and
>> 7
>> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
>> committers
>> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it good
>> enough
>> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>>
>> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>>
>> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update after
>> graduation?
>>
>> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a resolution
>> similar to:
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/ms
>> g56982.html
>>
>> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>>
>> Makes sense?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>.
Thanks Roman.
This make sense, I will start to draft the resolution. BTW, we would need
to nominate a chair, I guess it's the last piece we need to draft the
resolution.
Regards,
Radar
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:
> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> > Hi Roman,
> >
> > We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to remain
> with
> > HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two mentors) and 7
> > committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
> committers
> > number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it good
> enough
> > to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
>
> PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
>
> > Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update after
> graduation?
>
> It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a resolution
> similar to:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/
> msg56982.html
>
> and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
>
> Makes sense?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Hi Roman,
>
> We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to remain with
> HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two mentors) and 7
> committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total committers
> number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it good enough
> to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution?
PMC == committers in this case makes perfect sense to me!
> Should we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update after graduation?
It really doesn't matter much. Your next step is to draft a resolution
similar to:
https://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg56982.html
and start a [DISCUSS] thread similar to the above.
Makes sense?
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>.
Hi Roman,
We have confirmed with each HAWQ committer whether they want to remain with
HAWQ project. As a summary, 37 PPMC members(including two mentors) and 7
committers confirmed they want to remain with HAWQ. [1] The total
committers number 44 seems pretty close with PPMC member number 37, is it
good enough to make PMC == committers as our graduation resolution? Should
we update the whimsy and project webpage now or do update after graduation?
BTW, please kindly advice the next steps towards graduation? Thanks.
[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4f31f2766ed6963f845ac4034163db542c7895cf7f4b7dfcaeedfb8c@%3Cdev.hawq.apache.org%3E
Regards,
Radar
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Thanks Alan, this is very helpful. It would be great we still can have
> mentors to stay as HAWQ PMC members.
>
> I'd volunteer to proceed and collect all the current committers's
> responds. I plan to send the email to dev list after this weekend, and then
> send individual emails to other committers and our mentors one week after.
>
> Regards,
> Radar
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 2:18 AM, Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Roman,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your recognition and suggestion.
>> >
>> > Would you please give some guidance on:
>> >
>> > 1. Currently we have more than 50 committers on the list, should we send
>> > email to each committer individually to get their confirmation? Or we
>> can
>> > just send one public email to ask in private/dev list?
>> >
>> Start with an email to the dev list. 80% of the people who are going to
>> respond will respond there. After a few days send individual emails to
>> those who don't respond on the dev list.
>>
>>
>>
>> > 2. What if someone want to keep to be a committer but not be a PMC
>> member?
>> >
>> That's fine, if it's what they want. But you'll need to note that
>> clearly
>> when we write up the graduation resolution as there may be questions on
>> why
>> different people are being granted different status.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > 3. What if we can not get respond from some committers in time? E.g. one
>> > week.
>> >
>> I would include in the email a time limit, probably closer to two weeks
>> than one so that anyone who is on vacation has a better chance of seeing
>> it. That two weeks can be from the time you send the original email on
>> the
>> dev list. Anyone who does not respond in the given time frame will be
>> assumed to not want to continue with HAWQ.
>>
>> As another note, it is traditional to ask the mentors if they wish to stay
>> on as PMC members. For new projects I think it is very valuable to have
>> at
>> least one experienced Apache person on the PMC, even if he or she is not
>> contributing code.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Radar
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think in general it makes sense to me. Looking at:
>> > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hawq.html
>> > > I'd like to suggest that perhaps you may want to
>> > > explicitly ask folks on the committers list whether
>> > > they wish to remain with the project or not (I suspect
>> > > some of them will decline the invitation -- but perhaps
>> > > I'm wrong).
>> > >
>> > > If the list of committers will match the list of PPMC
>> > > closes -- then I'd also suggest considering making
>> > > PMC == committers as part of your graduation
>> > > resolution.
>> > >
>> > > Other than that -- I think you will make a great community.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Roman.
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:02 AM, 刘奎恩(局外) <ku...@alibaba-inc.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > Great news, I have no reason to reject this wonderful idea. One
>> > > consideration is may we have time window to do a bit more efforts on
>> > > execuation engine? because these derivative startup projects (hawq+,
>> > > deepgreen) all claims their superiority on execuation engine. Maybe,
>> Hawq
>> > > may co-plan it with Greenplum, it is one common issue in both data
>> > > warehouse.
>> > > > -------------——
>> > > > Kuien Liu/奎恩
>> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
>> > ------发件人：Radar
>> > > Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>发送时间：2018年4月26日(星期四) 10:16收件人：dev <
>> > > dev@hawq.incubator.apache.org>主 题：[DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation
>> from
>> > > Incubator
>> > > > Hi All,
>> > > >
>> > > > With the Apache HAWQ community keep healthy and growing, I think now
>> > > would
>> > > > be a good time to discuss where we stand regarding to graduation
>> from
>> > the
>> > > > Incubator, and what requirements remains.
>> > > >
>> > > > Apache HAWQ entered incubation in September of 2015, since then, the
>> > HAWQ
>> > > > community learned a lot about how to do things in Apache ways. Now
>> we
>> > > are a
>> > > > very helpful and engaged community, ready to help on all questions
>> > > > from the HAWQ
>> > > > community. We delivered four releases including two binary releases,
>> > now
>> > > we
>> > > > can do self-driving releases in good cadence. The community is
>> growing,
>> > > > new committers and PPMC members keep joining. We addressed the
>> > maturity
>> > > > issues one by one followed by Apache Project Maturity Model [1],
>> > > currently all
>> > > > the License and IP issues we can see got resolved.
>> > > >
>> > > > Base on those, I believes it's time for us to graduate to TLP. [2]
>> > > >
>> > > > Any thoughts? And welcome advice from HAWQ Mentors?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > >
>> > > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HAWQ/ASF+
>> > > Maturity+Evaluation
>> > > > [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#grad
>> > > > uating_to_a_top_level_project
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > > Radar
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>.
Thanks Alan, this is very helpful. It would be great we still can have
mentors to stay as HAWQ PMC members.
I'd volunteer to proceed and collect all the current committers's responds.
I plan to send the email to dev list after this weekend, and then send
individual emails to other committers and our mentors one week after.
Regards,
Radar
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 2:18 AM, Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
> > Hi Roman,
> >
> > Thanks for your recognition and suggestion.
> >
> > Would you please give some guidance on:
> >
> > 1. Currently we have more than 50 committers on the list, should we send
> > email to each committer individually to get their confirmation? Or we can
> > just send one public email to ask in private/dev list?
> >
> Start with an email to the dev list. 80% of the people who are going to
> respond will respond there. After a few days send individual emails to
> those who don't respond on the dev list.
>
>
>
> > 2. What if someone want to keep to be a committer but not be a PMC
> member?
> >
> That's fine, if it's what they want. But you'll need to note that clearly
> when we write up the graduation resolution as there may be questions on why
> different people are being granted different status.
>
>
> >
> > 3. What if we can not get respond from some committers in time? E.g. one
> > week.
> >
> I would include in the email a time limit, probably closer to two weeks
> than one so that anyone who is on vacation has a better chance of seeing
> it. That two weeks can be from the time you send the original email on the
> dev list. Anyone who does not respond in the given time frame will be
> assumed to not want to continue with HAWQ.
>
> As another note, it is traditional to ask the mentors if they wish to stay
> on as PMC members. For new projects I think it is very valuable to have at
> least one experienced Apache person on the PMC, even if he or she is not
> contributing code.
>
> Alan.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Radar
> >
> > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I think in general it makes sense to me. Looking at:
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hawq.html
> > > I'd like to suggest that perhaps you may want to
> > > explicitly ask folks on the committers list whether
> > > they wish to remain with the project or not (I suspect
> > > some of them will decline the invitation -- but perhaps
> > > I'm wrong).
> > >
> > > If the list of committers will match the list of PPMC
> > > closes -- then I'd also suggest considering making
> > > PMC == committers as part of your graduation
> > > resolution.
> > >
> > > Other than that -- I think you will make a great community.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Roman.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:02 AM, 刘奎恩(局外) <ku...@alibaba-inc.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Great news, I have no reason to reject this wonderful idea. One
> > > consideration is may we have time window to do a bit more efforts on
> > > execuation engine? because these derivative startup projects (hawq+,
> > > deepgreen) all claims their superiority on execuation engine. Maybe,
> Hawq
> > > may co-plan it with Greenplum, it is one common issue in both data
> > > warehouse.
> > > > -------------——
> > > > Kuien Liu/奎恩
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------发件人：Radar
> > > Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>发送时间：2018年4月26日(星期四) 10:16收件人：dev <
> > > dev@hawq.incubator.apache.org>主 题：[DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation
> from
> > > Incubator
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > With the Apache HAWQ community keep healthy and growing, I think now
> > > would
> > > > be a good time to discuss where we stand regarding to graduation from
> > the
> > > > Incubator, and what requirements remains.
> > > >
> > > > Apache HAWQ entered incubation in September of 2015, since then, the
> > HAWQ
> > > > community learned a lot about how to do things in Apache ways. Now we
> > > are a
> > > > very helpful and engaged community, ready to help on all questions
> > > > from the HAWQ
> > > > community. We delivered four releases including two binary releases,
> > now
> > > we
> > > > can do self-driving releases in good cadence. The community is
> growing,
> > > > new committers and PPMC members keep joining. We addressed the
> > maturity
> > > > issues one by one followed by Apache Project Maturity Model [1],
> > > currently all
> > > > the License and IP issues we can see got resolved.
> > > >
> > > > Base on those, I believes it's time for us to graduate to TLP. [2]
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts? And welcome advice from HAWQ Mentors?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HAWQ/ASF+
> > > Maturity+Evaluation
> > > > [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#grad
> > > > uating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Radar
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Hi Roman,
>
> Thanks for your recognition and suggestion.
>
> Would you please give some guidance on:
>
> 1. Currently we have more than 50 committers on the list, should we send
> email to each committer individually to get their confirmation? Or we can
> just send one public email to ask in private/dev list?
>
Start with an email to the dev list. 80% of the people who are going to
respond will respond there. After a few days send individual emails to
those who don't respond on the dev list.
> 2. What if someone want to keep to be a committer but not be a PMC member?
>
That's fine, if it's what they want. But you'll need to note that clearly
when we write up the graduation resolution as there may be questions on why
different people are being granted different status.
>
> 3. What if we can not get respond from some committers in time? E.g. one
> week.
>
I would include in the email a time limit, probably closer to two weeks
than one so that anyone who is on vacation has a better chance of seeing
it. That two weeks can be from the time you send the original email on the
dev list. Anyone who does not respond in the given time frame will be
assumed to not want to continue with HAWQ.
As another note, it is traditional to ask the mentors if they wish to stay
on as PMC members. For new projects I think it is very valuable to have at
least one experienced Apache person on the PMC, even if he or she is not
contributing code.
Alan.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Radar
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I think in general it makes sense to me. Looking at:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hawq.html
> > I'd like to suggest that perhaps you may want to
> > explicitly ask folks on the committers list whether
> > they wish to remain with the project or not (I suspect
> > some of them will decline the invitation -- but perhaps
> > I'm wrong).
> >
> > If the list of committers will match the list of PPMC
> > closes -- then I'd also suggest considering making
> > PMC == committers as part of your graduation
> > resolution.
> >
> > Other than that -- I think you will make a great community.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roman.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:02 AM, 刘奎恩(局外) <ku...@alibaba-inc.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Great news, I have no reason to reject this wonderful idea. One
> > consideration is may we have time window to do a bit more efforts on
> > execuation engine? because these derivative startup projects (hawq+,
> > deepgreen) all claims their superiority on execuation engine. Maybe, Hawq
> > may co-plan it with Greenplum, it is one common issue in both data
> > warehouse.
> > > -------------——
> > > Kuien Liu/奎恩
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------发件人：Radar
> > Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>发送时间：2018年4月26日(星期四) 10:16收件人：dev <
> > dev@hawq.incubator.apache.org>主 题：[DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from
> > Incubator
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > With the Apache HAWQ community keep healthy and growing, I think now
> > would
> > > be a good time to discuss where we stand regarding to graduation from
> the
> > > Incubator, and what requirements remains.
> > >
> > > Apache HAWQ entered incubation in September of 2015, since then, the
> HAWQ
> > > community learned a lot about how to do things in Apache ways. Now we
> > are a
> > > very helpful and engaged community, ready to help on all questions
> > > from the HAWQ
> > > community. We delivered four releases including two binary releases,
> now
> > we
> > > can do self-driving releases in good cadence. The community is growing,
> > > new committers and PPMC members keep joining. We addressed the
> maturity
> > > issues one by one followed by Apache Project Maturity Model [1],
> > currently all
> > > the License and IP issues we can see got resolved.
> > >
> > > Base on those, I believes it's time for us to graduate to TLP. [2]
> > >
> > > Any thoughts? And welcome advice from HAWQ Mentors?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HAWQ/ASF+
> > Maturity+Evaluation
> > > [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#grad
> > > uating_to_a_top_level_project
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Radar
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>.
Hi Roman,
Thanks for your recognition and suggestion.
Would you please give some guidance on:
1. Currently we have more than 50 committers on the list, should we send
email to each committer individually to get their confirmation? Or we can
just send one public email to ask in private/dev list?
2. What if someone want to keep to be a committer but not be a PMC member?
3. What if we can not get respond from some committers in time? E.g. one
week.
Regards,
Radar
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:
> I think in general it makes sense to me. Looking at:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hawq.html
> I'd like to suggest that perhaps you may want to
> explicitly ask folks on the committers list whether
> they wish to remain with the project or not (I suspect
> some of them will decline the invitation -- but perhaps
> I'm wrong).
>
> If the list of committers will match the list of PPMC
> closes -- then I'd also suggest considering making
> PMC == committers as part of your graduation
> resolution.
>
> Other than that -- I think you will make a great community.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:02 AM, 刘奎恩(局外) <ku...@alibaba-inc.com>
> wrote:
> > Great news, I have no reason to reject this wonderful idea. One
> consideration is may we have time window to do a bit more efforts on
> execuation engine? because these derivative startup projects (hawq+,
> deepgreen) all claims their superiority on execuation engine. Maybe, Hawq
> may co-plan it with Greenplum, it is one common issue in both data
> warehouse.
> > -------------——
> > Kuien Liu/奎恩
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------发件人：Radar
> Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>发送时间：2018年4月26日(星期四) 10:16收件人：dev <
> dev@hawq.incubator.apache.org>主 题：[DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from
> Incubator
> > Hi All,
> >
> > With the Apache HAWQ community keep healthy and growing, I think now
> would
> > be a good time to discuss where we stand regarding to graduation from the
> > Incubator, and what requirements remains.
> >
> > Apache HAWQ entered incubation in September of 2015, since then, the HAWQ
> > community learned a lot about how to do things in Apache ways. Now we
> are a
> > very helpful and engaged community, ready to help on all questions
> > from the HAWQ
> > community. We delivered four releases including two binary releases, now
> we
> > can do self-driving releases in good cadence. The community is growing,
> > new committers and PPMC members keep joining. We addressed the maturity
> > issues one by one followed by Apache Project Maturity Model [1],
> currently all
> > the License and IP issues we can see got resolved.
> >
> > Base on those, I believes it's time for us to graduate to TLP. [2]
> >
> > Any thoughts? And welcome advice from HAWQ Mentors?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HAWQ/ASF+
> Maturity+Evaluation
> > [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#grad
> > uating_to_a_top_level_project
> >
> > Regards,
> > Radar
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
I think in general it makes sense to me. Looking at:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hawq.html
I'd like to suggest that perhaps you may want to
explicitly ask folks on the committers list whether
they wish to remain with the project or not (I suspect
some of them will decline the invitation -- but perhaps
I'm wrong).
If the list of committers will match the list of PPMC
closes -- then I'd also suggest considering making
PMC == committers as part of your graduation
resolution.
Other than that -- I think you will make a great community.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:02 AM, 刘奎恩(局外) <ku...@alibaba-inc.com> wrote:
> Great news, I have no reason to reject this wonderful idea. One consideration is may we have time window to do a bit more efforts on execuation engine? because these derivative startup projects (hawq+, deepgreen) all claims their superiority on execuation engine. Maybe, Hawq may co-plan it with Greenplum, it is one common issue in both data warehouse.
> -------------——
> Kuien Liu/奎恩
> ------------------------------------------------------------------发件人：Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io>发送时间：2018年4月26日(星期四) 10:16收件人：dev <de...@hawq.incubator.apache.org>主 题：[DISCUSS] Apache HAWQ Graduation from Incubator
> Hi All,
>
> With the Apache HAWQ community keep healthy and growing, I think now would
> be a good time to discuss where we stand regarding to graduation from the
> Incubator, and what requirements remains.
>
> Apache HAWQ entered incubation in September of 2015, since then, the HAWQ
> community learned a lot about how to do things in Apache ways. Now we are a
> very helpful and engaged community, ready to help on all questions
> from the HAWQ
> community. We delivered four releases including two binary releases, now we
> can do self-driving releases in good cadence. The community is growing,
> new committers and PPMC members keep joining. We addressed the maturity
> issues one by one followed by Apache Project Maturity Model [1], currently all
> the License and IP issues we can see got resolved.
>
> Base on those, I believes it's time for us to graduate to TLP. [2]
>
> Any thoughts? And welcome advice from HAWQ Mentors?
>
> Thanks,
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HAWQ/ASF+Maturity+Evaluation
> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#grad
> uating_to_a_top_level_project
>
> Regards,
> Radar