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Posted to dev@jspwiki.apache.org by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com> on 2018/10/26 03:25:33 UTC
Some questions on proposed JSPWiki plugins
Hello.
It's been awhile since I've been involved in the project and I'm not
sure if I'm even still on the committer's list or not.
I've got some space and some of my own requirements that involve work
on JSPWiki plugins, both updating old ones I wrote years ago and some
new ones. This would/could include navigation plugins, the ability to
do tagging and querying on tags via plugins, and likely some plugin-
based text compiling functionality (e.g., you could write a book as a
set of wiki pages and compose the result as a single document, sorta
like XML named entities), etc.
I'm writing to inquire about how the group thinks I might best go about
contributing and publishing these. I've thought about publishing on
GitHub, on some pages on JSPWiki (as we used to do), or my own personal
web pages.
The work would be open sourced and I'm not particularly fussed about
details, i.e., I could do this work privately (as it's really my
own agenda driving it) but I'm happy to share.
Cheers,
Murray
...........................................................................
Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com> = = ===
http://www.altheim.com/murray/ === ===
= = ===
In the evening
The rice leaves in the garden
Rustle in the autumn wind
That blows through my reed hut.
-- Minamoto no Tsunenobu
Re: Some questions on proposed JSPWiki plugins
Posted by Janne Jalkanen <ja...@ecyrd.com>.
I think we all lurk here still :)
May you have energy and success!
/Janne
> On 27 Oct 2018, at 02:46, Andrew Jaquith <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nice to have a Murray sighting. :)
>
> I don’t think I’m still on the PMC, but I lurk...
>
> Andy
>
>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 3:46 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Murray!
>>
>> you're still on the PMC, so you are not only able to commit, but your vote
>> on releases is binding too :-)
>> As the source lives now on Github, you may have to enable 2FA between your
>> Apache ID and your
>> Github ID (detailed instructions at [#1]).
>>
>> Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems pushing code; if there's
>> any problem though, please
>> ping me and I'll try to fix whatever needed ASAP.
>>
>> As for the plugins, I'd be +1 to host them on the main distribution. If you
>> think it should be better to
>> have them anywhere else, my choice would be a github repo, as source is
>> easier to look at than
>> downloading an attachment. And if its tagged with "jspwiki" it's easily
>> discoverable too. Whether on
>> github or not, we'd add a link to those plugins on [#2].
>>
>>
>> br,
>> juan pablo
>>
>>
>> [#1]:
>> https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Building%20from%20source%20code
>> [#2]: https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ContributedPlugins
>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 9:14 AM Jürgen Weber <ju...@jwi.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apache licensed, Murray's plugins should fit fine into the
>>> org.apache.wiki.plugin package ..
>>>
>>> Cheers, Juergen
>>> Am Fr., 26. Okt. 2018 um 05:25 Uhr schrieb Murray Altheim
>>> <mu...@altheim.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> It's been awhile since I've been involved in the project and I'm not
>>>> sure if I'm even still on the committer's list or not.
>>>>
>>>> I've got some space and some of my own requirements that involve work
>>>> on JSPWiki plugins, both updating old ones I wrote years ago and some
>>>> new ones. This would/could include navigation plugins, the ability to
>>>> do tagging and querying on tags via plugins, and likely some plugin-
>>>> based text compiling functionality (e.g., you could write a book as a
>>>> set of wiki pages and compose the result as a single document, sorta
>>>> like XML named entities), etc.
>>>>
>>>> I'm writing to inquire about how the group thinks I might best go about
>>>> contributing and publishing these. I've thought about publishing on
>>>> GitHub, on some pages on JSPWiki (as we used to do), or my own personal
>>>> web pages.
>>>>
>>>> The work would be open sourced and I'm not particularly fussed about
>>>> details, i.e., I could do this work privately (as it's really my
>>>> own agenda driving it) but I'm happy to share.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Murray
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ...........................................................................
>>>> Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com> = =
>>> ===
>>>> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ ===
>>> ===
>>>> = =
>>> ===
>>>> In the evening
>>>> The rice leaves in the garden
>>>> Rustle in the autumn wind
>>>> That blows through my reed hut.
>>>> -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
Re: Some questions on proposed JSPWiki plugins
Posted by Andrew Jaquith <an...@gmail.com>.
Nice to have a Murray sighting. :)
I don’t think I’m still on the PMC, but I lurk...
Andy
> On Oct 26, 2018, at 3:46 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Murray!
>
> you're still on the PMC, so you are not only able to commit, but your vote
> on releases is binding too :-)
> As the source lives now on Github, you may have to enable 2FA between your
> Apache ID and your
> Github ID (detailed instructions at [#1]).
>
> Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems pushing code; if there's
> any problem though, please
> ping me and I'll try to fix whatever needed ASAP.
>
> As for the plugins, I'd be +1 to host them on the main distribution. If you
> think it should be better to
> have them anywhere else, my choice would be a github repo, as source is
> easier to look at than
> downloading an attachment. And if its tagged with "jspwiki" it's easily
> discoverable too. Whether on
> github or not, we'd add a link to those plugins on [#2].
>
>
> br,
> juan pablo
>
>
> [#1]:
> https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Building%20from%20source%20code
> [#2]: https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ContributedPlugins
>
>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 9:14 AM Jürgen Weber <ju...@jwi.de> wrote:
>>
>> Apache licensed, Murray's plugins should fit fine into the
>> org.apache.wiki.plugin package ..
>>
>> Cheers, Juergen
>> Am Fr., 26. Okt. 2018 um 05:25 Uhr schrieb Murray Altheim
>> <mu...@altheim.com>:
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> It's been awhile since I've been involved in the project and I'm not
>>> sure if I'm even still on the committer's list or not.
>>>
>>> I've got some space and some of my own requirements that involve work
>>> on JSPWiki plugins, both updating old ones I wrote years ago and some
>>> new ones. This would/could include navigation plugins, the ability to
>>> do tagging and querying on tags via plugins, and likely some plugin-
>>> based text compiling functionality (e.g., you could write a book as a
>>> set of wiki pages and compose the result as a single document, sorta
>>> like XML named entities), etc.
>>>
>>> I'm writing to inquire about how the group thinks I might best go about
>>> contributing and publishing these. I've thought about publishing on
>>> GitHub, on some pages on JSPWiki (as we used to do), or my own personal
>>> web pages.
>>>
>>> The work would be open sourced and I'm not particularly fussed about
>>> details, i.e., I could do this work privately (as it's really my
>>> own agenda driving it) but I'm happy to share.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Murray
>>>
>>>
>> ...........................................................................
>>> Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com> = =
>> ===
>>> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ ===
>> ===
>>> = =
>> ===
>>> In the evening
>>> The rice leaves in the garden
>>> Rustle in the autumn wind
>>> That blows through my reed hut.
>>> -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Some questions on proposed JSPWiki plugins
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andrew!
unless anyone explicitly removes himself from PMC/committership s/he
remains in there, even if they're inactive for years.
So you can still commit and your vote is still binding too O:-)
The rationale behind that is that merit doesn't expire. Also, anyone's
circumstances or motivations can change over time,
so at any given moment anyone can decide stop contributing becasue
whatever, but that doesn't necessarily mean that
that decission should last forever. By not actively removing anyone, it's
easier to hop on later.
cheers,
juan pablo
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 5:34 AM Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com> wrote:
> > Hi Murray!
>
> Hi Juan Pablo & Andrew,
>
> Nice to see you're still on the team. You guys are very dedicated!
>
> > you're still on the PMC, so you are not only able to commit, but your
> vote
> > on releases is binding too :-)
>
> Yikes!
>
> > As the source lives now on Github, you may have to enable 2FA between
> your
> > Apache ID and your Github ID (detailed instructions at [#1]).
>
> Okay, thanks -- I'll check up on that.
>
> > Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems pushing code; if there's
> > any problem though, please ping me and I'll try to fix whatever needed
> ASAP.
> >
> > As for the plugins, I'd be +1 to host them on the main distribution.
>
> I have no reason not to host on GitHub, and I guess you've answered my
> question about whether to package them as org.apache.wiki.plugin.* or
> under my own net.neocortext.wiki.plugin.*. I'd thought of them as
> "contributed plugins" but if the team is happy to have them under the
> main distribution I'm certainly fine doing that. It's easier for me as
> well.
>
> I'll probably start by creating a wiki page for the new plugins so that
> they can be identified (at least initially) as new and have their own
> web pages (for tests, demos, etc.) as such. When we're ready to consider
> having each one as part of the main distribution we can change that
> initial page to then point to the main plugin page.
>
> I'll probably select a few of the very simple ones as a first set, then
> add the more complicated ones after that.
>
> My band has a recording session this weekend so I probably will be busy
> for the next few days but I'll get going on the plugins.
>
> Good to be back,
>
> Murray
>
> ...........................................................................
> Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com> = = ===
> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ ===
> ===
> = = ===
> In the evening
> The rice leaves in the garden
> Rustle in the autumn wind
> That blows through my reed hut.
> -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu
>
>
>
>
Re: Some questions on proposed JSPWiki plugins
Posted by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>.
> Hi Murray!
Hi Juan Pablo & Andrew,
Nice to see you're still on the team. You guys are very dedicated!
> you're still on the PMC, so you are not only able to commit, but your vote
> on releases is binding too :-)
Yikes!
> As the source lives now on Github, you may have to enable 2FA between your
> Apache ID and your Github ID (detailed instructions at [#1]).
Okay, thanks -- I'll check up on that.
> Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems pushing code; if there's
> any problem though, please ping me and I'll try to fix whatever needed
ASAP.
>
> As for the plugins, I'd be +1 to host them on the main distribution.
I have no reason not to host on GitHub, and I guess you've answered my
question about whether to package them as org.apache.wiki.plugin.* or
under my own net.neocortext.wiki.plugin.*. I'd thought of them as
"contributed plugins" but if the team is happy to have them under the
main distribution I'm certainly fine doing that. It's easier for me as
well.
I'll probably start by creating a wiki page for the new plugins so that
they can be identified (at least initially) as new and have their own
web pages (for tests, demos, etc.) as such. When we're ready to consider
having each one as part of the main distribution we can change that
initial page to then point to the main plugin page.
I'll probably select a few of the very simple ones as a first set, then
add the more complicated ones after that.
My band has a recording session this weekend so I probably will be busy
for the next few days but I'll get going on the plugins.
Good to be back,
Murray
...........................................................................
Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com> = = ===
http://www.altheim.com/murray/ === ===
= = ===
In the evening
The rice leaves in the garden
Rustle in the autumn wind
That blows through my reed hut.
-- Minamoto no Tsunenobu
Re: Some questions on proposed JSPWiki plugins
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi Murray!
you're still on the PMC, so you are not only able to commit, but your vote
on releases is binding too :-)
As the source lives now on Github, you may have to enable 2FA between your
Apache ID and your
Github ID (detailed instructions at [#1]).
Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems pushing code; if there's
any problem though, please
ping me and I'll try to fix whatever needed ASAP.
As for the plugins, I'd be +1 to host them on the main distribution. If you
think it should be better to
have them anywhere else, my choice would be a github repo, as source is
easier to look at than
downloading an attachment. And if its tagged with "jspwiki" it's easily
discoverable too. Whether on
github or not, we'd add a link to those plugins on [#2].
br,
juan pablo
[#1]:
https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Building%20from%20source%20code
[#2]: https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ContributedPlugins
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 9:14 AM Jürgen Weber <ju...@jwi.de> wrote:
> Apache licensed, Murray's plugins should fit fine into the
> org.apache.wiki.plugin package ..
>
> Cheers, Juergen
> Am Fr., 26. Okt. 2018 um 05:25 Uhr schrieb Murray Altheim
> <mu...@altheim.com>:
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > It's been awhile since I've been involved in the project and I'm not
> > sure if I'm even still on the committer's list or not.
> >
> > I've got some space and some of my own requirements that involve work
> > on JSPWiki plugins, both updating old ones I wrote years ago and some
> > new ones. This would/could include navigation plugins, the ability to
> > do tagging and querying on tags via plugins, and likely some plugin-
> > based text compiling functionality (e.g., you could write a book as a
> > set of wiki pages and compose the result as a single document, sorta
> > like XML named entities), etc.
> >
> > I'm writing to inquire about how the group thinks I might best go about
> > contributing and publishing these. I've thought about publishing on
> > GitHub, on some pages on JSPWiki (as we used to do), or my own personal
> > web pages.
> >
> > The work would be open sourced and I'm not particularly fussed about
> > details, i.e., I could do this work privately (as it's really my
> > own agenda driving it) but I'm happy to share.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Murray
> >
> >
> ...........................................................................
> > Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com> = =
> ===
> > http://www.altheim.com/murray/ ===
> ===
> > = =
> ===
> > In the evening
> > The rice leaves in the garden
> > Rustle in the autumn wind
> > That blows through my reed hut.
> > -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Some questions on proposed JSPWiki plugins
Posted by Jürgen Weber <ju...@jwi.de>.
Apache licensed, Murray's plugins should fit fine into the
org.apache.wiki.plugin package ..
Cheers, Juergen
Am Fr., 26. Okt. 2018 um 05:25 Uhr schrieb Murray Altheim
<mu...@altheim.com>:
>
> Hello.
>
> It's been awhile since I've been involved in the project and I'm not
> sure if I'm even still on the committer's list or not.
>
> I've got some space and some of my own requirements that involve work
> on JSPWiki plugins, both updating old ones I wrote years ago and some
> new ones. This would/could include navigation plugins, the ability to
> do tagging and querying on tags via plugins, and likely some plugin-
> based text compiling functionality (e.g., you could write a book as a
> set of wiki pages and compose the result as a single document, sorta
> like XML named entities), etc.
>
> I'm writing to inquire about how the group thinks I might best go about
> contributing and publishing these. I've thought about publishing on
> GitHub, on some pages on JSPWiki (as we used to do), or my own personal
> web pages.
>
> The work would be open sourced and I'm not particularly fussed about
> details, i.e., I could do this work privately (as it's really my
> own agenda driving it) but I'm happy to share.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Murray
>
> ...........................................................................
> Murray Altheim <murray18 at altheim dot com> = = ===
> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ === ===
> = = ===
> In the evening
> The rice leaves in the garden
> Rustle in the autumn wind
> That blows through my reed hut.
> -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu
>
>
>