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[users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a Windows
2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with three
IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service and
edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080. I
would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I would
like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can individually
shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just one
service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you assist me
in what I am doing wrong.
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com>.
We may be able to get by with the short time Apache restarts, but I wanted to
exhuast all options before going down a certain path.
Thanks for all the help.
John
Brian Mearns-2 wrote:
>
> I see your issue. To the best of my knowledge, it just isn't possible.
> Like I said, a port maps a connection on an interface to a process:
> the OS has no way of knowing how to pick a process other than that.
> The only possible workaround I can think of would be a bit of a
> doozie: you could write your own sockets application to listen to port
> 8080, extract the destination IP address from the IP packet, and then
> forward it along to another process. It actually might not be that
> hard: you would set up each instance of apache to listen on a
> different port which only needs to be open locally, and then your
> multiplexing application could forward it to a specific port.
>
> On the other hand, you might be able to set up a "sandbox" apache
> server that listens on a different port, and do all your testing on
> that. Then when you're confident any maintenece changes you've made
> are correct, copy the changes to your real server, and do a quick
> restart. It only takes a few seconds for the apache server to restart:
> is that too long to keep all your sites down?
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:55 PM, jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> They are bound to one interface. I did see all the info on the Virtual
>> host
>> and got it working. My issue is that since they are different sites, if
>> I
>> do maintenance on one site and have to stop the service then all sites
>> are
>> down and I cannot have that. This is why I was trying to setup different
>> services. Also I am limited to port 8080 because we will be using the
>> BEA
>> Weblogic Plug-in to proxy back to our WL servers and we have established
>> only port 8080 is allowed to come through our firewall to talk to the WL
>> servers.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Brian Mearns-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> You /can/ run multiple sites from different IP addresses on the same
>>> or different ports, using virtual hosts, which are well documented in
>>> apache. It basically just allows you to use custom configurations
>>> depending on which IP address is accessed. So for instance, you could
>>> have a different DocumentRoot for each ip address, which will quite
>>> effectively give you different sites.
>>>
>>> Do you actually have different network interfaces for each ip address?
>>> Or do they all map to the same interface? If they're distinct
>>> interfaces, I don't see any reason you couldn't set up a different
>>> service for each one, but then again, I have no idea how to do it. If
>>> they're all just a single network interface, then I'm pretty certain
>>> it's not possible. This would pretty much defeat the purpose of a
>>> port, which is to map a specific network connection to a specific
>>> process.
>>>
>>> But it sounds like virtual hosts might be sufficient for what you
>>> need. You don't actually need different apache services to run
>>> different sites at the same time.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> -Brian
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:36 PM, jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a
>>>> Windows
>>>> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with
>>>> three
>>>> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service and
>>>> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080. I
>>>> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I
>>>> would
>>>> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can
>>>> individually
>>>> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just one
>>>> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you
>>>> assist
>>>> me
>>>> in what I am doing wrong.
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by Brian Mearns <me...@gmail.com>.
I see your issue. To the best of my knowledge, it just isn't possible.
Like I said, a port maps a connection on an interface to a process:
the OS has no way of knowing how to pick a process other than that.
The only possible workaround I can think of would be a bit of a
doozie: you could write your own sockets application to listen to port
8080, extract the destination IP address from the IP packet, and then
forward it along to another process. It actually might not be that
hard: you would set up each instance of apache to listen on a
different port which only needs to be open locally, and then your
multiplexing application could forward it to a specific port.
On the other hand, you might be able to set up a "sandbox" apache
server that listens on a different port, and do all your testing on
that. Then when you're confident any maintenece changes you've made
are correct, copy the changes to your real server, and do a quick
restart. It only takes a few seconds for the apache server to restart:
is that too long to keep all your sites down?
-Brian
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:55 PM, jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> They are bound to one interface. I did see all the info on the Virtual host
> and got it working. My issue is that since they are different sites, if I
> do maintenance on one site and have to stop the service then all sites are
> down and I cannot have that. This is why I was trying to setup different
> services. Also I am limited to port 8080 because we will be using the BEA
> Weblogic Plug-in to proxy back to our WL servers and we have established
> only port 8080 is allowed to come through our firewall to talk to the WL
> servers.
>
> John
>
>
> Brian Mearns-2 wrote:
>>
>> You /can/ run multiple sites from different IP addresses on the same
>> or different ports, using virtual hosts, which are well documented in
>> apache. It basically just allows you to use custom configurations
>> depending on which IP address is accessed. So for instance, you could
>> have a different DocumentRoot for each ip address, which will quite
>> effectively give you different sites.
>>
>> Do you actually have different network interfaces for each ip address?
>> Or do they all map to the same interface? If they're distinct
>> interfaces, I don't see any reason you couldn't set up a different
>> service for each one, but then again, I have no idea how to do it. If
>> they're all just a single network interface, then I'm pretty certain
>> it's not possible. This would pretty much defeat the purpose of a
>> port, which is to map a specific network connection to a specific
>> process.
>>
>> But it sounds like virtual hosts might be sufficient for what you
>> need. You don't actually need different apache services to run
>> different sites at the same time.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:36 PM, jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a Windows
>>> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with
>>> three
>>> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service and
>>> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080. I
>>> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I
>>> would
>>> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can individually
>>> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just one
>>> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you assist
>>> me
>>> in what I am doing wrong.
>>> --
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com>.
Jay,
That is not the problem I am having. All of our DMZ sites sit behind a Load
Balance switch and all run on port 8080. Our public facing domain names\IP
addresses (Public URL's) are housed on the Load Balance switch and run on
port 80. When someone hits our Public url, they hit the LB switch and the
switch then knows where to drop it down to based on the config for that VIP
address. The end user never knows the backend web server IP because it is
all handled by the LB switch.
My issue was needing multiple sites to run, each on port 8080, but be able
to stop and start each one individually. The have to run on port 8080
because that is what is allow to come back through our firewall to our
internal BEA WL servers.
John
jg6789 wrote:
>
> Brian,
> tried my.domain.com to my.domain.com:8080. doesnt work only allows
> IP:PORT.
> btw Cox internet out here even with a business account blocks port 80.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
>
>
>> As far as I know, dyndns gives you an actual DNS lookup, so when
>> someone types your subdomain into their browser, it does a DNS lookup,
>> and gets the IP address you gave to dyndns. That's why port numbers
>> work, it's not that dyndns is listening on every port and forwarding
>> based on the requested subdomain. That being the case, I don't think
>> there's any way to do what you want here: DNS maps names to ip
>> addresses, it doesn't know anything about ports.
>>
>> I'm not sure how webhop works: you can't tell it to redirect
>> my.domain.com to my.domain.com:8080? Are you only able to give an IP
>> address and port for the destination?
>>
>> If you have legitimate business needs for this site, your best bet is
>> probably to just get a business account with your ISP that will
>> unblock port 80. You'd probably get a static IP with the account, too,
>> so you wouldn't need dyndns, you can just buy a 5$ a year domain name
>> of your own. Plus, additional bandwidth.
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:05 PM, <jg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> We are using dydns too. We can append the port number, sure. that sucks
>>> for
>>> users though. (thats why we use webhop)maybe we should petition dyndns
>>> to
>>> allow the domains they hand out to be linked to an IPADDRESS:PORT
>>> instead
>>> of
>>> just an IP. That would elminate any workarounds like webhop and suffice
>>> to
>>> say solve the port 80 issue with ISP's.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port
>>> 8080
>>>
>>>
>>>> How are you "redirecting" to the IP address? I used to use dyndns.com
>>>> for my subdomain name, and I was able to append the port number with
>>>> no problem. E.g., my subdomain was something like bmearns.homeip.net,
>>>> so I just went to http://bmearns.homeip.net:8080.
>>>>
>>>> Do you not want users to see your IP address for security reasons? Or
>>>> just because it's ugly and utterly forgettable? If it's for security
>>>> reasons, and they're connecting directly to your site through the
>>>> domain forwarding (i.e., not through a proxy), then they should be
>>>> able to get your IP address anyway with a DNS lookup.
>>>>
>>>> -Brian
>>>>
>>>>>> jg6789@cox.net wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> ever found a work around for this? We currently have to have our
>>>>>>> domain
>>>>>>> [sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to work.
>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>> users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not good. not
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache 2.2.9
>>>>>>> Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jay
>>>>
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by EJ...@petersonmachineryco.com.
That is wild dude. I have never had an isp home or business that doesn't
support port 80 listening. Now I have been more than limited at times with
other ports but with the proper applications and servers installed I don't
think I have ever been unable to use a port.
"Brian Mearns"
<mearns.b@gmail.c
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users@httpd.apache.org
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PM
Subject
Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple
Please respond to Windows Services on port 8080
users@httpd.apach
e.org
That's pretty wild that they don't even let businesses host their own
sites. I'd complain to them long before I complain to dyndns. They
must have some account that lets you use port 80, right?
-Brian
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:20 AM, <jg...@cox.net> wrote:
> Brian,
> tried my.domain.com to my.domain.com:8080. doesnt work only allows
IP:PORT.
> btw Cox internet out here even with a business account blocks port 80.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
>
>
>> As far as I know, dyndns gives you an actual DNS lookup, so when
>> someone types your subdomain into their browser, it does a DNS lookup,
>> and gets the IP address you gave to dyndns. That's why port numbers
>> work, it's not that dyndns is listening on every port and forwarding
>> based on the requested subdomain. That being the case, I don't think
>> there's any way to do what you want here: DNS maps names to ip
>> addresses, it doesn't know anything about ports.
>>
>> I'm not sure how webhop works: you can't tell it to redirect
>> my.domain.com to my.domain.com:8080? Are you only able to give an IP
>> address and port for the destination?
>>
>> If you have legitimate business needs for this site, your best bet is
>> probably to just get a business account with your ISP that will
>> unblock port 80. You'd probably get a static IP with the account, too,
>> so you wouldn't need dyndns, you can just buy a 5$ a year domain name
>> of your own. Plus, additional bandwidth.
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:05 PM, <jg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> We are using dydns too. We can append the port number, sure. that sucks
>>> for
>>> users though. (thats why we use webhop)maybe we should petition dyndns
to
>>> allow the domains they hand out to be linked to an IPADDRESS:PORT
instead
>>> of
>>> just an IP. That would elminate any workarounds like webhop and suffice
>>> to
>>> say solve the port 80 issue with ISP's.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port
8080
>>>
>>>
>>>> How are you "redirecting" to the IP address? I used to use dyndns.com
>>>> for my subdomain name, and I was able to append the port number with
>>>> no problem. E.g., my subdomain was something like bmearns.homeip.net,
>>>> so I just went to http://bmearns.homeip.net:8080.
>>>>
>>>> Do you not want users to see your IP address for security reasons? Or
>>>> just because it's ugly and utterly forgettable? If it's for security
>>>> reasons, and they're connecting directly to your site through the
>>>> domain forwarding (i.e., not through a proxy), then they should be
>>>> able to get your IP address anyway with a DNS lookup.
>>>>
>>>> -Brian
>>>>
>>>>>> jg6789@cox.net wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> ever found a work around for this? We currently have to have our
>>>>>>> domain
>>>>>>> [sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to
work.
>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>> users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not good. not
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache 2.2.9
>>>>>>> Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jay
>>>>
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by Brian Mearns <me...@gmail.com>.
That's pretty wild that they don't even let businesses host their own
sites. I'd complain to them long before I complain to dyndns. They
must have some account that lets you use port 80, right?
-Brian
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:20 AM, <jg...@cox.net> wrote:
> Brian,
> tried my.domain.com to my.domain.com:8080. doesnt work only allows IP:PORT.
> btw Cox internet out here even with a business account blocks port 80.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
>
>
>> As far as I know, dyndns gives you an actual DNS lookup, so when
>> someone types your subdomain into their browser, it does a DNS lookup,
>> and gets the IP address you gave to dyndns. That's why port numbers
>> work, it's not that dyndns is listening on every port and forwarding
>> based on the requested subdomain. That being the case, I don't think
>> there's any way to do what you want here: DNS maps names to ip
>> addresses, it doesn't know anything about ports.
>>
>> I'm not sure how webhop works: you can't tell it to redirect
>> my.domain.com to my.domain.com:8080? Are you only able to give an IP
>> address and port for the destination?
>>
>> If you have legitimate business needs for this site, your best bet is
>> probably to just get a business account with your ISP that will
>> unblock port 80. You'd probably get a static IP with the account, too,
>> so you wouldn't need dyndns, you can just buy a 5$ a year domain name
>> of your own. Plus, additional bandwidth.
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:05 PM, <jg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> We are using dydns too. We can append the port number, sure. that sucks
>>> for
>>> users though. (thats why we use webhop)maybe we should petition dyndns to
>>> allow the domains they hand out to be linked to an IPADDRESS:PORT instead
>>> of
>>> just an IP. That would elminate any workarounds like webhop and suffice
>>> to
>>> say solve the port 80 issue with ISP's.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
>>>
>>>
>>>> How are you "redirecting" to the IP address? I used to use dyndns.com
>>>> for my subdomain name, and I was able to append the port number with
>>>> no problem. E.g., my subdomain was something like bmearns.homeip.net,
>>>> so I just went to http://bmearns.homeip.net:8080.
>>>>
>>>> Do you not want users to see your IP address for security reasons? Or
>>>> just because it's ugly and utterly forgettable? If it's for security
>>>> reasons, and they're connecting directly to your site through the
>>>> domain forwarding (i.e., not through a proxy), then they should be
>>>> able to get your IP address anyway with a DNS lookup.
>>>>
>>>> -Brian
>>>>
>>>>>> jg6789@cox.net wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> ever found a work around for this? We currently have to have our
>>>>>>> domain
>>>>>>> [sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to work.
>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>> users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not good. not
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache 2.2.9
>>>>>>> Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jay
>>>>
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by jg...@cox.net.
Brian,
tried my.domain.com to my.domain.com:8080. doesnt work only allows IP:PORT.
btw Cox internet out here even with a business account blocks port 80.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
> As far as I know, dyndns gives you an actual DNS lookup, so when
> someone types your subdomain into their browser, it does a DNS lookup,
> and gets the IP address you gave to dyndns. That's why port numbers
> work, it's not that dyndns is listening on every port and forwarding
> based on the requested subdomain. That being the case, I don't think
> there's any way to do what you want here: DNS maps names to ip
> addresses, it doesn't know anything about ports.
>
> I'm not sure how webhop works: you can't tell it to redirect
> my.domain.com to my.domain.com:8080? Are you only able to give an IP
> address and port for the destination?
>
> If you have legitimate business needs for this site, your best bet is
> probably to just get a business account with your ISP that will
> unblock port 80. You'd probably get a static IP with the account, too,
> so you wouldn't need dyndns, you can just buy a 5$ a year domain name
> of your own. Plus, additional bandwidth.
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:05 PM, <jg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> We are using dydns too. We can append the port number, sure. that sucks
>> for
>> users though. (thats why we use webhop)maybe we should petition dyndns to
>> allow the domains they hand out to be linked to an IPADDRESS:PORT instead
>> of
>> just an IP. That would elminate any workarounds like webhop and suffice
>> to
>> say solve the port 80 issue with ISP's.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
>> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
>>
>>
>>> How are you "redirecting" to the IP address? I used to use dyndns.com
>>> for my subdomain name, and I was able to append the port number with
>>> no problem. E.g., my subdomain was something like bmearns.homeip.net,
>>> so I just went to http://bmearns.homeip.net:8080.
>>>
>>> Do you not want users to see your IP address for security reasons? Or
>>> just because it's ugly and utterly forgettable? If it's for security
>>> reasons, and they're connecting directly to your site through the
>>> domain forwarding (i.e., not through a proxy), then they should be
>>> able to get your IP address anyway with a DNS lookup.
>>>
>>> -Brian
>>>
>>>>> jg6789@cox.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> ever found a work around for this? We currently have to have our
>>>>>> domain
>>>>>> [sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to work.
>>>>>> Now
>>>>>> users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not good. not
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache 2.2.9
>>>>>> Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jay
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by Brian Mearns <me...@gmail.com>.
As far as I know, dyndns gives you an actual DNS lookup, so when
someone types your subdomain into their browser, it does a DNS lookup,
and gets the IP address you gave to dyndns. That's why port numbers
work, it's not that dyndns is listening on every port and forwarding
based on the requested subdomain. That being the case, I don't think
there's any way to do what you want here: DNS maps names to ip
addresses, it doesn't know anything about ports.
I'm not sure how webhop works: you can't tell it to redirect
my.domain.com to my.domain.com:8080? Are you only able to give an IP
address and port for the destination?
If you have legitimate business needs for this site, your best bet is
probably to just get a business account with your ISP that will
unblock port 80. You'd probably get a static IP with the account, too,
so you wouldn't need dyndns, you can just buy a 5$ a year domain name
of your own. Plus, additional bandwidth.
-Brian
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:05 PM, <jg...@cox.net> wrote:
> We are using dydns too. We can append the port number, sure. that sucks for
> users though. (thats why we use webhop)maybe we should petition dyndns to
> allow the domains they hand out to be linked to an IPADDRESS:PORT instead of
> just an IP. That would elminate any workarounds like webhop and suffice to
> say solve the port 80 issue with ISP's.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
>
>
>> How are you "redirecting" to the IP address? I used to use dyndns.com
>> for my subdomain name, and I was able to append the port number with
>> no problem. E.g., my subdomain was something like bmearns.homeip.net,
>> so I just went to http://bmearns.homeip.net:8080.
>>
>> Do you not want users to see your IP address for security reasons? Or
>> just because it's ugly and utterly forgettable? If it's for security
>> reasons, and they're connecting directly to your site through the
>> domain forwarding (i.e., not through a proxy), then they should be
>> able to get your IP address anyway with a DNS lookup.
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>>>> jg6789@cox.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> John,
>>>>>
>>>>> We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have you
>>>>> ever found a work around for this? We currently have to have our domain
>>>>> [sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to work.
>>>>> Now
>>>>> users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not good. not good
>>>>> at
>>>>> all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache 2.2.9
>>>>> Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay
>>
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by jg...@cox.net.
We are using dydns too. We can append the port number, sure. that sucks for
users though. (thats why we use webhop)maybe we should petition dyndns to
allow the domains they hand out to be linked to an IPADDRESS:PORT instead of
just an IP. That would elminate any workarounds like webhop and suffice to
say solve the port 80 issue with ISP's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
> How are you "redirecting" to the IP address? I used to use dyndns.com
> for my subdomain name, and I was able to append the port number with
> no problem. E.g., my subdomain was something like bmearns.homeip.net,
> so I just went to http://bmearns.homeip.net:8080.
>
> Do you not want users to see your IP address for security reasons? Or
> just because it's ugly and utterly forgettable? If it's for security
> reasons, and they're connecting directly to your site through the
> domain forwarding (i.e., not through a proxy), then they should be
> able to get your IP address anyway with a DNS lookup.
>
> -Brian
>
>>> jg6789@cox.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have you
>>>> ever found a work around for this? We currently have to have our domain
>>>> [sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to work.
>>>> Now
>>>> users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not good. not good
>>>> at
>>>> all.
>>>>
>>>> Apache 2.2.9
>>>> Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
>>>>
>>>> Jay
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by Brian Mearns <me...@gmail.com>.
How are you "redirecting" to the IP address? I used to use dyndns.com
for my subdomain name, and I was able to append the port number with
no problem. E.g., my subdomain was something like bmearns.homeip.net,
so I just went to http://bmearns.homeip.net:8080.
Do you not want users to see your IP address for security reasons? Or
just because it's ugly and utterly forgettable? If it's for security
reasons, and they're connecting directly to your site through the
domain forwarding (i.e., not through a proxy), then they should be
able to get your IP address anyway with a DNS lookup.
-Brian
>> jg6789@cox.net wrote:
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have you
>>> ever found a work around for this? We currently have to have our domain
>>> [sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to work. Now
>>> users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not good. not good at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> Apache 2.2.9
>>> Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
>>>
>>> Jay
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by jg...@cox.net.
enjoy it while you can.
Jay
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Mearns" <me...@gmail.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
> Some ISPs don't block port 80 for residential accounts, either. I'm on
> Comcast in the Boston area, and (for now) I've got port 80 free. They
> did just start blocking 25, though, so they might be coming for 80
> next.
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Frank Gingras
> <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jay,
>>
>> A business Internet account would not have that limitation - you might
>> even
>> be able to call your ISP to lift this restriction, provided it does not
>> breach your contract agreement, and that you can prove that your server
>> is
>> secure.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> jg6789@cox.net wrote:
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have you
>>> ever found a work around for this? We currently have to have our domain
>>> [sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to work. Now
>>> users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not good. not good
>>> at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> Apache 2.2.9
>>> Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwberger" <jw...@hotmail.com>
>>> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port
>>> 8080
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> They are bound to one interface. I did see all the info on the Virtual
>>>> host
>>>> and got it working. My issue is that since they are different sites,
>>>> if
>>>> I
>>>> do maintenance on one site and have to stop the service then all sites
>>>> are
>>>> down and I cannot have that. This is why I was trying to setup
>>>> different
>>>> services. Also I am limited to port 8080 because we will be using the
>>>> BEA
>>>> Weblogic Plug-in to proxy back to our WL servers and we have
>>>> established
>>>> only port 8080 is allowed to come through our firewall to talk to the
>>>> WL
>>>> servers.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brian Mearns-2 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You /can/ run multiple sites from different IP addresses on the same
>>>>> or different ports, using virtual hosts, which are well documented in
>>>>> apache. It basically just allows you to use custom configurations
>>>>> depending on which IP address is accessed. So for instance, you could
>>>>> have a different DocumentRoot for each ip address, which will quite
>>>>> effectively give you different sites.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you actually have different network interfaces for each ip address?
>>>>> Or do they all map to the same interface? If they're distinct
>>>>> interfaces, I don't see any reason you couldn't set up a different
>>>>> service for each one, but then again, I have no idea how to do it. If
>>>>> they're all just a single network interface, then I'm pretty certain
>>>>> it's not possible. This would pretty much defeat the purpose of a
>>>>> port, which is to map a specific network connection to a specific
>>>>> process.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it sounds like virtual hosts might be sufficient for what you
>>>>> need. You don't actually need different apache services to run
>>>>> different sites at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>> -Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:36 PM, jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with
>>>>>> three
>>>>>> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can
>>>>>> individually
>>>>>> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you
>>>>>> assist
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> in what I am doing wrong.
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by Brian Mearns <me...@gmail.com>.
Some ISPs don't block port 80 for residential accounts, either. I'm on
Comcast in the Boston area, and (for now) I've got port 80 free. They
did just start blocking 25, though, so they might be coming for 80
next.
-Brian
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Frank Gingras
<fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jay,
>
> A business Internet account would not have that limitation - you might even
> be able to call your ISP to lift this restriction, provided it does not
> breach your contract agreement, and that you can prove that your server is
> secure.
>
> Frank
>
> jg6789@cox.net wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have you
>> ever found a work around for this? We currently have to have our domain
>> [sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to work. Now
>> users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not good. not good at
>> all.
>>
>> Apache 2.2.9
>> Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwberger" <jw...@hotmail.com>
>> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
>>
>>
>>>
>>> They are bound to one interface. I did see all the info on the Virtual
>>> host
>>> and got it working. My issue is that since they are different sites, if
>>> I
>>> do maintenance on one site and have to stop the service then all sites
>>> are
>>> down and I cannot have that. This is why I was trying to setup different
>>> services. Also I am limited to port 8080 because we will be using the
>>> BEA
>>> Weblogic Plug-in to proxy back to our WL servers and we have established
>>> only port 8080 is allowed to come through our firewall to talk to the WL
>>> servers.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Mearns-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You /can/ run multiple sites from different IP addresses on the same
>>>> or different ports, using virtual hosts, which are well documented in
>>>> apache. It basically just allows you to use custom configurations
>>>> depending on which IP address is accessed. So for instance, you could
>>>> have a different DocumentRoot for each ip address, which will quite
>>>> effectively give you different sites.
>>>>
>>>> Do you actually have different network interfaces for each ip address?
>>>> Or do they all map to the same interface? If they're distinct
>>>> interfaces, I don't see any reason you couldn't set up a different
>>>> service for each one, but then again, I have no idea how to do it. If
>>>> they're all just a single network interface, then I'm pretty certain
>>>> it's not possible. This would pretty much defeat the purpose of a
>>>> port, which is to map a specific network connection to a specific
>>>> process.
>>>>
>>>> But it sounds like virtual hosts might be sufficient for what you
>>>> need. You don't actually need different apache services to run
>>>> different sites at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>> -Brian
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:36 PM, jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with
>>>>> three
>>>>> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service and
>>>>> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080. I
>>>>> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I
>>>>> would
>>>>> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can
>>>>> individually
>>>>> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just one
>>>>> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you
>>>>> assist
>>>>> me
>>>>> in what I am doing wrong.
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by Frank Gingras <fr...@gmail.com>.
Jay,
A business Internet account would not have that limitation - you might
even be able to call your ISP to lift this restriction, provided it does
not breach your contract agreement, and that you can prove that your
server is secure.
Frank
jg6789@cox.net wrote:
> John,
>
> We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have
> you ever found a work around for this? We currently have to have our
> domain [sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to
> work. Now users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not
> good. not good at all.
>
> Apache 2.2.9
> Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
>
> Jay
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwberger" <jw...@hotmail.com>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
>
>
>>
>> They are bound to one interface. I did see all the info on the
>> Virtual host
>> and got it working. My issue is that since they are different sites,
>> if I
>> do maintenance on one site and have to stop the service then all
>> sites are
>> down and I cannot have that. This is why I was trying to setup different
>> services. Also I am limited to port 8080 because we will be using
>> the BEA
>> Weblogic Plug-in to proxy back to our WL servers and we have established
>> only port 8080 is allowed to come through our firewall to talk to the WL
>> servers.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Brian Mearns-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> You /can/ run multiple sites from different IP addresses on the same
>>> or different ports, using virtual hosts, which are well documented in
>>> apache. It basically just allows you to use custom configurations
>>> depending on which IP address is accessed. So for instance, you could
>>> have a different DocumentRoot for each ip address, which will quite
>>> effectively give you different sites.
>>>
>>> Do you actually have different network interfaces for each ip address?
>>> Or do they all map to the same interface? If they're distinct
>>> interfaces, I don't see any reason you couldn't set up a different
>>> service for each one, but then again, I have no idea how to do it. If
>>> they're all just a single network interface, then I'm pretty certain
>>> it's not possible. This would pretty much defeat the purpose of a
>>> port, which is to map a specific network connection to a specific
>>> process.
>>>
>>> But it sounds like virtual hosts might be sufficient for what you
>>> need. You don't actually need different apache services to run
>>> different sites at the same time.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> -Brian
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:36 PM, jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a
>>>> Windows
>>>> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with
>>>> three
>>>> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service
>>>> and
>>>> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port
>>>> 8080. I
>>>> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I
>>>> would
>>>> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can
>>>> individually
>>>> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just
>>>> one
>>>> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you
>>>> assist
>>>> me
>>>> in what I am doing wrong.
>>>> --
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>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Running-Multiple-Windows-Services-on-port-8080-tp19748920p19748920.html
>>>>
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by jg...@cox.net.
John,
We too are limited to port 8080. since our ISP blocks port 80. Have you ever
found a work around for this? We currently have to have our domain
[sub.domain.com] redirect to 72.x.x.x.:8080 in order for it to work. Now
users see the ip address in the browser address bar. not good. not good at
all.
Apache 2.2.9
Linksys Gateway/Router WCG200
Jay
----- Original Message -----
From: "jwberger" <jw...@hotmail.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
>
> They are bound to one interface. I did see all the info on the Virtual
> host
> and got it working. My issue is that since they are different sites, if I
> do maintenance on one site and have to stop the service then all sites are
> down and I cannot have that. This is why I was trying to setup different
> services. Also I am limited to port 8080 because we will be using the BEA
> Weblogic Plug-in to proxy back to our WL servers and we have established
> only port 8080 is allowed to come through our firewall to talk to the WL
> servers.
>
> John
>
>
> Brian Mearns-2 wrote:
>>
>> You /can/ run multiple sites from different IP addresses on the same
>> or different ports, using virtual hosts, which are well documented in
>> apache. It basically just allows you to use custom configurations
>> depending on which IP address is accessed. So for instance, you could
>> have a different DocumentRoot for each ip address, which will quite
>> effectively give you different sites.
>>
>> Do you actually have different network interfaces for each ip address?
>> Or do they all map to the same interface? If they're distinct
>> interfaces, I don't see any reason you couldn't set up a different
>> service for each one, but then again, I have no idea how to do it. If
>> they're all just a single network interface, then I'm pretty certain
>> it's not possible. This would pretty much defeat the purpose of a
>> port, which is to map a specific network connection to a specific
>> process.
>>
>> But it sounds like virtual hosts might be sufficient for what you
>> need. You don't actually need different apache services to run
>> different sites at the same time.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:36 PM, jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a
>>> Windows
>>> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with
>>> three
>>> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service and
>>> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080. I
>>> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I
>>> would
>>> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can
>>> individually
>>> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just one
>>> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you
>>> assist
>>> me
>>> in what I am doing wrong.
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Running-Multiple-Windows-Services-on-port-8080-tp19748920p19748920.html
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com>.
They are bound to one interface. I did see all the info on the Virtual host
and got it working. My issue is that since they are different sites, if I
do maintenance on one site and have to stop the service then all sites are
down and I cannot have that. This is why I was trying to setup different
services. Also I am limited to port 8080 because we will be using the BEA
Weblogic Plug-in to proxy back to our WL servers and we have established
only port 8080 is allowed to come through our firewall to talk to the WL
servers.
John
Brian Mearns-2 wrote:
>
> You /can/ run multiple sites from different IP addresses on the same
> or different ports, using virtual hosts, which are well documented in
> apache. It basically just allows you to use custom configurations
> depending on which IP address is accessed. So for instance, you could
> have a different DocumentRoot for each ip address, which will quite
> effectively give you different sites.
>
> Do you actually have different network interfaces for each ip address?
> Or do they all map to the same interface? If they're distinct
> interfaces, I don't see any reason you couldn't set up a different
> service for each one, but then again, I have no idea how to do it. If
> they're all just a single network interface, then I'm pretty certain
> it's not possible. This would pretty much defeat the purpose of a
> port, which is to map a specific network connection to a specific
> process.
>
> But it sounds like virtual hosts might be sufficient for what you
> need. You don't actually need different apache services to run
> different sites at the same time.
>
> Hope that helps.
> -Brian
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:36 PM, jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a Windows
>> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with
>> three
>> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service and
>> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080. I
>> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I
>> would
>> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can individually
>> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just one
>> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you assist
>> me
>> in what I am doing wrong.
>> --
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>> http://www.nabble.com/Running-Multiple-Windows-Services-on-port-8080-tp19748920p19748920.html
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by Brian Mearns <me...@gmail.com>.
You /can/ run multiple sites from different IP addresses on the same
or different ports, using virtual hosts, which are well documented in
apache. It basically just allows you to use custom configurations
depending on which IP address is accessed. So for instance, you could
have a different DocumentRoot for each ip address, which will quite
effectively give you different sites.
Do you actually have different network interfaces for each ip address?
Or do they all map to the same interface? If they're distinct
interfaces, I don't see any reason you couldn't set up a different
service for each one, but then again, I have no idea how to do it. If
they're all just a single network interface, then I'm pretty certain
it's not possible. This would pretty much defeat the purpose of a
port, which is to map a specific network connection to a specific
process.
But it sounds like virtual hosts might be sufficient for what you
need. You don't actually need different apache services to run
different sites at the same time.
Hope that helps.
-Brian
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:36 PM, jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a Windows
> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with three
> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service and
> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080. I
> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I would
> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can individually
> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just one
> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you assist me
> in what I am doing wrong.
> --
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com>.
Okay, I figured out what I was doing wrong. For the Listen Address, I only
had the port number. Therefore, when I started the service it would
listening on port 8080 at any IP address the server had bound to it. "Stupid
Me" When I changed it to be IP:port only the website that was configured in
the conf file ran. Now I can create two new Windows services for the other
IP's and run them separately.
John
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>
> jwberger wrote:
>> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a Windows
>> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with
>> three
>> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service and
>> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080. I
>> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I
>> would
>> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can individually
>> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just one
>> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you assist
>> me
>> in what I am doing wrong.
>
> You seem to be getting quite a bit of incorrect advise, so I'll hint that
> you would need *three* httpd.conf files (different names) that have three
> different Listen directives (IP-address:8080), different log file names
> (accesslog and errorlog), and different pidfile directives.
>
> Then, see
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/platform/windows.html#winsvc
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by Brian Mearns <me...@gmail.com>.
Well look at that. Thanks for correcting me, even if you did it rather
unpleasantly. It's always nice to learn something new. That's why I
try to preface my comments with soft phrases like "to the best of my
knowledge".
-Brian
>
> You seem to be getting quite a bit of incorrect advise, so I'll hint that
> you would need *three* httpd.conf files (different names) that have three
> different Listen directives (IP-address:8080), different log file names
> (accesslog and errorlog), and different pidfile directives.
>
> Then, see
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/platform/windows.html#winsvc
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com>.
William,
I installed three separate Windows services, with each using its own config
file, doc root and logfiles. Within each config file I specified one of
three IP addresses at port 8080 and specified the Virtual Host, doc root,
logfiles, etc. I tested it out and when I started one of the services, the
website for the IP it was uinsg came up fine. However, the other websites
for the other two IP's would not come up. I then started the second service
and I was able to get to the second website, but the third still did not
come up. I then started the last one and the third site come up. I reversed
to shut the down on at a time and each time the site would longer be
available. I no longer have a site or config that has Listen 8080.
John
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>
> jwberger wrote:
>> I did that but it still seemed like if I had only one windows service it
>> started all three sites no matter what. I install a new service that
>> used
>> one of the ip:8080 for its listening address. It used a different
>> logfile,
>> error file and document root. However, when I started the service I
>> could
>> get to all three IP addresses at port 8080. Again, maybe I am doing
>> something wrong.
>
> While one apache still has Listen 8080 (which means Listen 0.0.0.0:8080 or
> "listen on all IP adapters to port 8080) no other will start.
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
jwberger wrote:
> I did that but it still seemed like if I had only one windows service it
> started all three sites no matter what. I install a new service that used
> one of the ip:8080 for its listening address. It used a different logfile,
> error file and document root. However, when I started the service I could
> get to all three IP addresses at port 8080. Again, maybe I am doing
> something wrong.
While one apache still has Listen 8080 (which means Listen 0.0.0.0:8080 or
"listen on all IP adapters to port 8080) no other will start.
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by jwberger <jw...@hotmail.com>.
I did that but it still seemed like if I had only one windows service it
started all three sites no matter what. I install a new service that used
one of the ip:8080 for its listening address. It used a different logfile,
error file and document root. However, when I started the service I could
get to all three IP addresses at port 8080. Again, maybe I am doing
something wrong.
John
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>
> jwberger wrote:
>> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a Windows
>> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with
>> three
>> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service and
>> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080. I
>> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I
>> would
>> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can individually
>> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just one
>> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you assist
>> me
>> in what I am doing wrong.
>
> You seem to be getting quite a bit of incorrect advise, so I'll hint that
> you would need *three* httpd.conf files (different names) that have three
> different Listen directives (IP-address:8080), different log file names
> (accesslog and errorlog), and different pidfile directives.
>
> Then, see
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/platform/windows.html#winsvc
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Re: [users@httpd] Running Multiple Windows Services on port 8080
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
jwberger wrote:
> I am novice when it comes to Apache. I have installed 2.2.9 on a Windows
> 2003 server and can get it to run fine. The server has one NIC with three
> IP addresses bound to it. In installed Apache as a Windows service and
> edited the httpd.conf file so that the server listened on port 8080. I
> would like each IP address to run a different site on port 8080 and I would
> like each site to have its own Windows service so that I can individually
> shut down a site. Is this possible? It seems like if I start just one
> service I can hit each IP at port 8080 and they all work. Can you assist me
> in what I am doing wrong.
You seem to be getting quite a bit of incorrect advise, so I'll hint that
you would need *three* httpd.conf files (different names) that have three
different Listen directives (IP-address:8080), different log file names
(accesslog and errorlog), and different pidfile directives.
Then, see
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/platform/windows.html#winsvc
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