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cvs commit: jakarta-struts/doc mail.xml using.xml

husted      2004/04/05 17:56:10

  Modified:    doc      using.xml
  Added:       doc      mail.xml
  Log:
  Update mailing list details.
  
  Revision  Changes    Path
  1.14      +5 -44     jakarta-struts/doc/using.xml
  
  Index: using.xml
  ===================================================================
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-struts/doc/using.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.13
  retrieving revision 1.14
  diff -u -r1.13 -r1.14
  --- using.xml	6 Jan 2004 05:49:41 -0000	1.13
  +++ using.xml	6 Apr 2004 00:56:10 -0000	1.14
  @@ -113,57 +113,18 @@
   
       <p>
       Before joining any mailing list at Jakarta, please be sure to read the
  -    <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html">Mailing Lists - 
  -    Guidelines</a>.
  -    If you have read and understood these guidelines, you are welcome to join 
  -    the Jakarta Struts mailing lists:
  +    <a href="mail.html">Mailing List Guidelines</a>.
  +    If you have read and understood these guidelines, you are welcome to
  +    <a href="mail.html">join the Struts mailing lists</a>.
       </p>
       
  -    <ul>
  -        
  -    <li>
  -      <strong>STRUTS-USER Mailing List</strong> - Subscribe to this list
  -      to communicate with other developers that are using
  -      Struts for their own applications, including questions about the
  -      installation of Struts, and the usage of particular Struts features.<br/>
  -      [<a href="mailto:struts-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>]<br/>
  -      [<a href="mailto:struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>]
  -    </li>
  -      
  -    <li>
  -      <strong>STRUTS-DEV Mailing List</strong> - Subscribe to this mailing 
  -      list to communicate with other developers interested in expanding and 
  -      improving the functionality supported by Struts itself.<br/>
  -      [<a href="mailto:struts-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>]<br/>
  -      [<a href="mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>]
  -    </li>
  -    
  -    <li>
  -      <strong>STRUTS-USER Digest</strong> - Subscribe to this list to receive 
  -      a daily digest of the Struts USER list.<br/>
  -      [<a href="mailto:struts-user-digest-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>]<br/>
  -      [<a href="mailto:struts-user-digest-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>]<br/>
  -      If you subscribe to the Digest, you can also post to the User list. 
  -      (Just don't quote the entire Digest mailing in a reply!)
  -    </li>
  -    
  -    <li>
  -      <strong>STRUTS-USER Newsgroup</strong> - The User list is also mirrored online,
  -      so that you can participate <strong>without</strong> subscribing to the regular mailing
  -      list.<br/>
  -      [<a href="http://www.proj.com/subscribe.jsp">Struts Newsgroup</a>]<br/>
  -      This is another way to post to the User list without subscribing to the 
  -      regular list. <br/>
  -      </li>
  -    </ul>
  -
   </section>
   
   <section name="Posting a Question to a Mailing List" href="Questions">
   
       <p>
       Before posting a new question, be sure to consult the
  -    <a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=42">
  +    <a href="http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=41">
       <strong>MAILING LIST ARCHIVE</strong></a> and the very excellent
       <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html">
       How To Ask Questions The Smart Way</a> by Eric Raymond.
  @@ -178,7 +139,7 @@
       <section name="Getting Involved" href="Involved">
   
       <p>
  -        All work on Struts and the other Jakarta subprojects is provided on a volunteer basis.
  +        All work on Struts (and other Apache projects) is provided on an all-volunteer basis.
           For more about what you can do, see the Jakarta
           <a href="http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html">Getting Involved Overview</a> and the Struts
           <a href="./faqs/helping.html">How to Help FAQ</a>.
  
  
  
  1.1                  jakarta-struts/doc/mail.xml
  
  Index: mail.xml
  ===================================================================
  <?xml version="1.0"?>
  <!--
  Copyright 1999-2004 The Apache Software Foundation
  Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
  you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
  You may obtain a copy of the License at
  
  http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
  
  Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
  distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
  WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
  See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
  limitations under the License.
  -->
  <document>
  
    <properties>
      <title>Mailing List Guidelines</title>
    </properties>
  
  <body>
  
  <section name="Mailing Lists - Guidelines">
  
  <p>A mailing list is an electronic discussion forum that anyone can
  subscribe to. When someone sends an email message to the mailing list,
  a copy of that message is broadcast to everyone who is subscribed to
  that mailing list. Mailing lists provide a simple and effective
  communication mechanism. With potentially thousands of subscribers,
  there is a common set of etiquette guidelines that you should observe.
  Please keep on reading.
  </p>
  
  
  <p>
  <strong>
        Respect the mailing list type
  </strong><br/>
   There are generally two types of lists.
  </p>
  
  <p>
  <ul>
      <li>
      The "User" list is where you can send questions and comments about
      configuration, setup, usage and other "user" types of questions.
      </li>
      <li>
      The "Developer" (or "Dev") list is where you can send questions and
      comments about the actual software source code and general
      "development" types of questions.
      </li>
  </ul>
  </p>
  
  <p>Some questions are appropriate for posting on both the "user" and
  the "developer" lists. In this case, pick one and only one. Do not
  cross post.</p>
  
  <p>Asking a configuration question on the developers list is frowned
  upon because developers' time is as precious as yours. By contacting
  them directly instead of the user base you are abusing resources. In
  fact, it is unlikely that you will get a quicker answer, if at
  all.</p>
  
  <p>
  <strong>
        Join the lists that are appropriate for your discussion.
  </strong><br/>
  Please make sure that you are joining the list that is appropriate for the 
  topic or product that you would like to discuss. For example, 
  please do not join the Struts mailing list and ask questions about Tomcat. 
  Instead, you should join the Tomcat User list and ask your questions
  there. 
  </p>
  
  <p>
  <strong>
      Ask smart questions.  </strong><br/> 
  
  Every volunteer project obtains its strength from the people involved
  in it. You are welcome to join any of our mailing lists.  You can
  choose to lurk, or actively participate; it's up to you.  The level of
  community responsiveness to specific questions is generally directly
  proportional to the amount of effort you spend formulating your
  question. Eric Raymond and Rick Moen have even written an essay entitled <a
  href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html">"<b>Asking
  Smart Questions</b>"</a> precisely on this topic.  Although somewhat
  militant, it is definitely worth reading.
  </p>
  
  <p>
  <strong>
      Keep your email short and to the point.
  </strong><br/>
  If your email is more than about a page of text, chances are that it
  won't get read by very many people. It is much better to try to pack a
  lot of informative information (see above about asking smart questions)
  into as small of an email as possible. If you are replying to a previous
  email, it is a good idea to only quote the parts that you are replying
  to and to remove the unnecessary bits. This makes it easier for people
  to follow a thread as well as making the email archives easier to search
  and read.
  </p>
  
  <p>
  <strong>
      Do your best to ensure that you are not sending HTML or
      "Stylelized" email to the list.
  </strong><br/>
  If you are using Outlook or Outlook Express or Eudora, chances are that
  you are sending HTML email by default. There is usually a setting that
  will allow you to send "Plain Text" email. If you are using Microsoft
  products to send email, there are several bugs in the software that
  prevent you from turning off the sending of HTML email. Please read this
  <a href="./micromail.html">page</a> as well...
  </p>
  
  <p>
  <strong>
      Watch where you are sending email.
  </strong><br/>
  The majority of our mailing lists have set the Reply-To to go back to the 
  list. That means that when you Reply to a message, it will go to the list
  and not to the original author directly. The reason is because it helps
  facilitate discussion on the list for everyone to benefit from. Be careful 
  of this as sometimes you may intend to reply to a message directly to someone 
  instead of the entire list.
  <em>
  The appropriate contents of the Reply-To header is an age-old debate that
  should not be brought up on the mailing lists.  You can
  examine opposing points of view
  <a href="http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html">condemning</a>
  our convention and 
  <a href="http://www.metasystema.org/essays/reply-to-useful.mhtml">
  condoning</a> 
  it.  Bringing this up for debate on a mailing list will add nothing
  new and is considered off-topic.
  </em>
  </p>
  
  <p>
  <strong>
      Do not cross post messages.
  </strong><br/>
  In other words, pick a mailing list and send your messages to that mailing 
  list only. Do not send your messages to multiple mailing lists. The reason is 
  that people may be subscribed to one list and not to the other. Therefore, 
  some people will only see part of the conversation.
  </p>
  </section>
  
  <section name="Archives">
  <p>
  There are several sites on the net that archive and provide searching for 
  our mailing lists in HTML readable format. If a list is not there, then
  feel free to take initiative and submit it for us via <a href="./mail2.html#general">jakarta-general</a> mailing list.
  </p>
  <p>
  <ul>Archives Carrying Struts Lists
  <li><a href="http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=41">List Index on nagoya.apache.org</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/user%40struts.apache.org/">Mail-Archive</a> </li>
  <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=struts-user&r=1&w=2">MARC: Mailing list ARChives</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.servlets.com/archive/servlet/SummarizeList?listName=struts-user">Servlets.com servlet and JSP list archives</a></li>
  </ul>
  </p>
  </section>
  <section name="Subscribing">
  <p>
  Now that you've read the guidelines (you <b>have</b> read the rest of the page, haven't you?), please subscribe to 
  whichever Struts lists are of interest. 
  </p>
  
      <ul>
          
      <li>
        <strong>STRUTS-ANNOUNCE Mailing List</strong> - Subscribe to this list
        to receiving only major announcements regarding Struts. This is a low-volume, 
        read-only list.<br/>
        [<a href="mailto:announce-subscribe@struts.apache.org">Subscribe</a>]<br/>
        [<a href="mailto:announce-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>]
      </li>
        
      <li>
        <strong>STRUTS-USER Mailing List</strong> - Subscribe to this list
        to communicate with other developers that are using
        Struts for their own applications, including questions about the
        installation of Struts, and the usage of particular Struts features.<br/>
        [<a href="mailto:user-subscribe@struts.apache.org">Subscribe</a>]<br/>
        [<a href="mailto:user-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>]
      </li>
        
      <li>
        <strong>STRUTS-DEV Mailing List</strong> - Subscribe to this mailing 
        list to communicate with other developers interested in expanding and 
        improving the functionality supported by Struts itself.<br/>
        [<a href="mailto:dev-subscribe@struts.apache.org">Subscribe</a>]<br/>
        [<a href="mailto:dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>]
      </li>
      
      <li>
        <strong>STRUTS-USER Digest</strong> - Subscribe to this list to receive 
        a daily digest of the Struts USER list.<br/>
        [<a href="mailto:user-digest-subscribe@struts.apache.org">Subscribe</a>]<br/>
        [<a href="mailto:user-digest-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a>]<br/>
        If you subscribe to the Digest, you can also post to the User list. 
        (Just don't quote the entire Digest mailing in a reply!)
      </li>
      
      <li>
        <strong>STRUTS-USER Newsgroup</strong> - The User list is also mirrored online,
        so that you can participate <strong>without</strong> subscribing to the regular mailing
        list.<br/>
        [<a href="http://www.proj.com/subscribe.jsp">Struts Newsgroup</a>]<br/>
        This is another way to post to the User list without subscribing to the 
        regular list. <br/>
        </li>
      </ul>
  </section>
  </body>
  </document>
  
  
  

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