Frequency of releases

[Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>]

We talked a bit about how frequent to release plugins / plugman / cli
during the hangout, but want to have a list discussion about it.

Some points to think about:
- It's convenient to be able to release at any time (get immediate feedback)
- Users may get annoyed if we update too frequently (update once a day is
annoying)
- Batching releases will make release announcement blog posts feasible
(same as last point)

Right now, I've put on the wiki that:

CLI, Plugman: Releases happen on Tuesdays
> Core Plugins: Releases happen on Wednesdays


https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/VersioningAndReleaseStrategy

I chose arbitrarily, so now's the time to actually discuss what would be
good here. Note that this is only for feature releases, and that emergency
patch releases can still be done at any time.

I'm now thinking that it would be nice to release both CLI/plugman and
plugins on the same day, and combine the blog post for them. Instead of
having an explicit "release announcement" blog post, we can have a "Last
week in Cordova" post similar to http://peter.sh/category/last-week/.

Thoughts?

Re: Frequency of releases

[Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>]

+1

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:22 AM, David Kemp <dr...@google.com> wrote:
> I like it - for clarity - I also think that the CLI and plugman should be
> on the same day
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Braden Shepherdson <br...@chromium.org>wrote:
>
>> Agreed, I think this works.
>>
>> I share the hope that the frequency will drop. Though it looks again this
>> year like the new iOS version is going to cause us some suffering.
>>
>> Braden
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>>
>> > Yup, agree w/ you both.
>> >
>> > I suspect we will see the releases slow w/ time for both plugins and the
>> > CI. (Hope, maybe?)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I like it, but I would stress that this is "at most" once per week, not
>> > > necessarily "every week".  It should be fine to just skip a week if
>> > nothing
>> > > interesting landed.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > We talked a bit about how frequent to release plugins / plugman / cli
>> > > > during the hangout, but want to have a list discussion about it.
>> > > >
>> > > > Some points to think about:
>> > > > - It's convenient to be able to release at any time (get immediate
>> > > > feedback)
>> > > > - Users may get annoyed if we update too frequently (update once a
>> day
>> > is
>> > > > annoying)
>> > > > - Batching releases will make release announcement blog posts
>> feasible
>> > > > (same as last point)
>> > > >
>> > > > Right now, I've put on the wiki that:
>> > > >
>> > > > CLI, Plugman: Releases happen on Tuesdays
>> > > > > Core Plugins: Releases happen on Wednesdays
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/VersioningAndReleaseStrategy
>> > > >
>> > > > I chose arbitrarily, so now's the time to actually discuss what would
>> > be
>> > > > good here. Note that this is only for feature releases, and that
>> > > emergency
>> > > > patch releases can still be done at any time.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm now thinking that it would be nice to release both CLI/plugman
>> and
>> > > > plugins on the same day, and combine the blog post for them. Instead
>> of
>> > > > having an explicit "release announcement" blog post, we can have a
>> > "Last
>> > > > week in Cordova" post similar to http://peter.sh/category/last-week/
>> .
>> > > >
>> > > > Thoughts?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

Re: Frequency of releases

[David Kemp <dr...@google.com>]

I like it - for clarity - I also think that the CLI and plugman should be
on the same day


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Braden Shepherdson <br...@chromium.org>wrote:

> Agreed, I think this works.
>
> I share the hope that the frequency will drop. Though it looks again this
> year like the new iOS version is going to cause us some suffering.
>
> Braden
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > Yup, agree w/ you both.
> >
> > I suspect we will see the releases slow w/ time for both plugins and the
> > CI. (Hope, maybe?)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I like it, but I would stress that this is "at most" once per week, not
> > > necessarily "every week".  It should be fine to just skip a week if
> > nothing
> > > interesting landed.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > We talked a bit about how frequent to release plugins / plugman / cli
> > > > during the hangout, but want to have a list discussion about it.
> > > >
> > > > Some points to think about:
> > > > - It's convenient to be able to release at any time (get immediate
> > > > feedback)
> > > > - Users may get annoyed if we update too frequently (update once a
> day
> > is
> > > > annoying)
> > > > - Batching releases will make release announcement blog posts
> feasible
> > > > (same as last point)
> > > >
> > > > Right now, I've put on the wiki that:
> > > >
> > > > CLI, Plugman: Releases happen on Tuesdays
> > > > > Core Plugins: Releases happen on Wednesdays
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/VersioningAndReleaseStrategy
> > > >
> > > > I chose arbitrarily, so now's the time to actually discuss what would
> > be
> > > > good here. Note that this is only for feature releases, and that
> > > emergency
> > > > patch releases can still be done at any time.
> > > >
> > > > I'm now thinking that it would be nice to release both CLI/plugman
> and
> > > > plugins on the same day, and combine the blog post for them. Instead
> of
> > > > having an explicit "release announcement" blog post, we can have a
> > "Last
> > > > week in Cordova" post similar to http://peter.sh/category/last-week/
> .
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Frequency of releases

[Braden Shepherdson <br...@chromium.org>]

Agreed, I think this works.

I share the hope that the frequency will drop. Though it looks again this
year like the new iOS version is going to cause us some suffering.

Braden


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:

> Yup, agree w/ you both.
>
> I suspect we will see the releases slow w/ time for both plugins and the
> CI. (Hope, maybe?)
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> > I like it, but I would stress that this is "at most" once per week, not
> > necessarily "every week".  It should be fine to just skip a week if
> nothing
> > interesting landed.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We talked a bit about how frequent to release plugins / plugman / cli
> > > during the hangout, but want to have a list discussion about it.
> > >
> > > Some points to think about:
> > > - It's convenient to be able to release at any time (get immediate
> > > feedback)
> > > - Users may get annoyed if we update too frequently (update once a day
> is
> > > annoying)
> > > - Batching releases will make release announcement blog posts feasible
> > > (same as last point)
> > >
> > > Right now, I've put on the wiki that:
> > >
> > > CLI, Plugman: Releases happen on Tuesdays
> > > > Core Plugins: Releases happen on Wednesdays
> > >
> > >
> > > https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/VersioningAndReleaseStrategy
> > >
> > > I chose arbitrarily, so now's the time to actually discuss what would
> be
> > > good here. Note that this is only for feature releases, and that
> > emergency
> > > patch releases can still be done at any time.
> > >
> > > I'm now thinking that it would be nice to release both CLI/plugman and
> > > plugins on the same day, and combine the blog post for them. Instead of
> > > having an explicit "release announcement" blog post, we can have a
> "Last
> > > week in Cordova" post similar to http://peter.sh/category/last-week/.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> >
>

Re: Frequency of releases

[Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>]

Yup, agree w/ you both.

I suspect we will see the releases slow w/ time for both plugins and the
CI. (Hope, maybe?)


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:

> I like it, but I would stress that this is "at most" once per week, not
> necessarily "every week".  It should be fine to just skip a week if nothing
> interesting landed.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > We talked a bit about how frequent to release plugins / plugman / cli
> > during the hangout, but want to have a list discussion about it.
> >
> > Some points to think about:
> > - It's convenient to be able to release at any time (get immediate
> > feedback)
> > - Users may get annoyed if we update too frequently (update once a day is
> > annoying)
> > - Batching releases will make release announcement blog posts feasible
> > (same as last point)
> >
> > Right now, I've put on the wiki that:
> >
> > CLI, Plugman: Releases happen on Tuesdays
> > > Core Plugins: Releases happen on Wednesdays
> >
> >
> > https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/VersioningAndReleaseStrategy
> >
> > I chose arbitrarily, so now's the time to actually discuss what would be
> > good here. Note that this is only for feature releases, and that
> emergency
> > patch releases can still be done at any time.
> >
> > I'm now thinking that it would be nice to release both CLI/plugman and
> > plugins on the same day, and combine the blog post for them. Instead of
> > having an explicit "release announcement" blog post, we can have a "Last
> > week in Cordova" post similar to http://peter.sh/category/last-week/.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>

Re: Frequency of releases

[Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>]

I like it, but I would stress that this is "at most" once per week, not
necessarily "every week".  It should be fine to just skip a week if nothing
interesting landed.


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:

> We talked a bit about how frequent to release plugins / plugman / cli
> during the hangout, but want to have a list discussion about it.
>
> Some points to think about:
> - It's convenient to be able to release at any time (get immediate
> feedback)
> - Users may get annoyed if we update too frequently (update once a day is
> annoying)
> - Batching releases will make release announcement blog posts feasible
> (same as last point)
>
> Right now, I've put on the wiki that:
>
> CLI, Plugman: Releases happen on Tuesdays
> > Core Plugins: Releases happen on Wednesdays
>
>
> https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/VersioningAndReleaseStrategy
>
> I chose arbitrarily, so now's the time to actually discuss what would be
> good here. Note that this is only for feature releases, and that emergency
> patch releases can still be done at any time.
>
> I'm now thinking that it would be nice to release both CLI/plugman and
> plugins on the same day, and combine the blog post for them. Instead of
> having an explicit "release announcement" blog post, we can have a "Last
> week in Cordova" post similar to http://peter.sh/category/last-week/.
>
> Thoughts?
>